Never pay to win. Just don't do it kids.
What is your view on microtransactions for credits?
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Snakebite
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I have to agree, there are tons of ways for Frontier to monetize this game that do not come anywhere near pay to win..... And those that say 'but it won't affect my game' are being a little naive, this is a multiplayer game, it WILL impact if that person is playing as a pirate in a beefed up Python and you cross his path out on the frontier....
Ok, do it, but force people to play open play if they buy CR with real money, and no disconnect. Let the game begin!
P.S: yes, you are affecting my game, you could buy a T9 and haul goods all the day to an enemy station and you are affecting my agenda, I demand that if you can do that, I can kill you without you hiding in solo game. is the least I should be able to do.
P.S: yes, you are affecting my game, you could buy a T9 and haul goods all the day to an enemy station and you are affecting my agenda, I demand that if you can do that, I can kill you without you hiding in solo game. is the least I should be able to do.
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I am against it.
Simply put it goes against the very foundation of the game, where you "explore" a game universe while winning your credits and do whatever you want with them.
I am always against something that replaces the playing the game part.
And playing 2 hours at weekends or 12 hours per day has no meaning here. One can achieve results all the same, there is no "passive" skill tree, no power ups. Simply put, you are either a good player at your own chosen activity or you have to explore some other activity and find your spot.
Plus the whinny about losing a billion credits to a traffic jam on the slot would become way way worse because you know... PAID REAL MONEY I HAVE RIGHT OF PASSAGE; FD FIX...
Give us Permits for money. Give us skins and all spa and beuty for ships but for a healthy future do not ever put any assets up for bargains.
IF this "credits for money" would happen I would suggest FD to completely remove the Insurance mechanic and go proper perma death. You have to Eject ? Welcome to spawn.
Simply put it goes against the very foundation of the game, where you "explore" a game universe while winning your credits and do whatever you want with them.
I am always against something that replaces the playing the game part.
And playing 2 hours at weekends or 12 hours per day has no meaning here. One can achieve results all the same, there is no "passive" skill tree, no power ups. Simply put, you are either a good player at your own chosen activity or you have to explore some other activity and find your spot.
Plus the whinny about losing a billion credits to a traffic jam on the slot would become way way worse because you know... PAID REAL MONEY I HAVE RIGHT OF PASSAGE; FD FIX...
Give us Permits for money. Give us skins and all spa and beuty for ships but for a healthy future do not ever put any assets up for bargains.
IF this "credits for money" would happen I would suggest FD to completely remove the Insurance mechanic and go proper perma death. You have to Eject ? Welcome to spawn.
No. That would definitely be PTW. Cash shops should only be for vanity items or sidegrades. Look at something like Planetside 2, there are no PTW items (although some noobs would disagree) and most veterans spend their smedbucks on vanity items.
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Personally, I think you'd be missing out on a lot, including the steep learning curve by just being able to buy an Asp and equip it with Gucci kit. I'd imagine a lot of noobs would ragequite (and I'm a noob myself) if they spent a large amount of real cash only to get trashed by the Scuffers or flying into a star whilst picking their nose in hyperspace.
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Personally, I think you'd be missing out on a lot, including the steep learning curve by just being able to buy an Asp and equip it with Gucci kit. I'd imagine a lot of noobs would ragequite (and I'm a noob myself) if they spent a large amount of real cash only to get trashed by the Scuffers or flying into a star whilst picking their nose in hyperspace.
This thread has definitely reached tl:dr, but going back to the OP:
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Slightly off the main topic, despite other posts to the contrary I think threads raising this issue are helpful in that they give Frontier some insight into how the current player base views p2whatever. With the release in December the player demographic must have changed a bit, but it's nice to see that credits for cash is still viewed, for the most part, as a bad thing.
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Fwiw at the moment, while the "Race to Elite" competition is running, I think credits for cash is off Frontier's radar anyway as it would raise too many issues.
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- Yes it would - if you employ those credits to trade/support one faction over another in a system conflict you are affecting that part of the game and the other players involved in it
- This is semantic obfuscation - if you substituted the word "progress" for "win" you would have a statement that makes no sense
Slightly off the main topic, despite other posts to the contrary I think threads raising this issue are helpful in that they give Frontier some insight into how the current player base views p2whatever. With the release in December the player demographic must have changed a bit, but it's nice to see that credits for cash is still viewed, for the most part, as a bad thing.
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Fwiw at the moment, while the "Race to Elite" competition is running, I think credits for cash is off Frontier's radar anyway as it would raise too many issues.
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I mentioned my reasons in earlier posts. I suggest you look through them before asking a question I have already answered.
I pointed out that in my experience with games that let you buy in-game credits you will always have a portion of players who will only abuse the ability to buy cash to troll/grief other players. It will always negatively affect players, not all players but still enough to found my hate towards Micro-transactions.
If Micro-transactions are added the best solution for how to incorporate it would be to have a second server (like Iron man mode) where only those who purchase in-game credits can see/affect each other. This way players buy the ships they want from the start but won't affect those who dislike Micro-Transactions.
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Hello all,
Come to this late.
I personally do not mind the idea, as the game ages so new players will need a leg up. I like the idea of them subsidising further development. On another note, you can only have play to win - if, you know, there is actually something to win. I am therefore opposed whilst the 10K competition is on the table, but think we will have to do something for newer players later on.
Player interaction is the only time this is really relevent.
Given how rare PvP is, and how isolated you sometimes feel, I really do not see the difference between somene paying to be my opposition, or someone earning through hard sweat the right when in comes to the PvP.
I obviously reserve the right to change my mind should a very large "non economical" civil war start in the Empire, or the Fed tax raises cause rebellions and everyone is thrusted into a PvP all the time.
Simon
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Simon
Come to this late.
I personally do not mind the idea, as the game ages so new players will need a leg up. I like the idea of them subsidising further development. On another note, you can only have play to win - if, you know, there is actually something to win. I am therefore opposed whilst the 10K competition is on the table, but think we will have to do something for newer players later on.
Player interaction is the only time this is really relevent.
Given how rare PvP is, and how isolated you sometimes feel, I really do not see the difference between somene paying to be my opposition, or someone earning through hard sweat the right when in comes to the PvP.
I obviously reserve the right to change my mind should a very large "non economical" civil war start in the Empire, or the Fed tax raises cause rebellions and everyone is thrusted into a PvP all the time.
Simon
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Simon
I make it 2. Subscriptions or micro-transactions. What are the others please?
If we can buy the credits with real money, you might as well take out trading for credits, mining for credits and exploration for credits. With no trading there isn't any point in piracy, so the only thing left is PvP. The game ceases to be the game "Elite" and then becomes more like some other space based game.
Nothing wrong with a PvP only game but sorry, that isn't the game I thought I was buying.
Nothing wrong with a PvP only game but sorry, that isn't the game I thought I was buying.
I was thinking more about a weapon, defense, armour or tool of some sort that can only be purchased with real money but which provides that win advantage over others.
I think others buying credits has potential to diminish the sense of value of your own hard earned cash, ships and equipment.
The A class ship is like getting to the summit of a difficult mountain, puffing, panting, sweating but feeling full of success and satisfaction at the achievement... then seeing someone get out the ski lift, fresh, nonchalant, couldn't give a f......
edited to add, I would pay for the Capital Ship Expansion pack though
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Without readibreading all pages&posts: just NO to micromicrotransactions!
Please no. No real money for credits was in the pro column when I was considering buying this game. Spending money on things like ship paint and maybe later outfits, etc are fine, but I sincerely hope they keep real money out of your game bank account.
