That might be for the beavers though.
What Species Do You Think Will Have Lowered Deep Diving Requirements?
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That's true. I think that'll mostly be used for the Alligator and Beaver. But, it could be used for the Moose in a way where they can use it but not deep dive in order to use it, if that makes sense. To me, the Moose fits into the category of "waders" (or that's just what I call them). These include animals like the Tapir, Grizzly and Anteater. To me, these animals will go to about waist height in the water and look for food without fully submerging (I'm completely aware Moose do in fact do this). If they can deep dive, fantastic for the people who want that, but they won't be deep diving in my zoo.
The only animals that I am really hoping for a reduction from are the African Penguin, the Dwarf Caiman and the Giant Otter. I’d love to see the penguin and caiman reduced to 2m, and the otter to 3m (perhaps even 2m too).
Whenever I make habitats for the penguins and caimans specifically, it always seems to be that the sheer volume of water makes them look tiny and unimpressive. I’d love to be able to build something like the Penguin beach at London Zoo, where the penguins can still dive but don’t have to dive so deep!
Whenever I make habitats for the penguins and caimans specifically, it always seems to be that the sheer volume of water makes them look tiny and unimpressive. I’d love to be able to build something like the Penguin beach at London Zoo, where the penguins can still dive but don’t have to dive so deep!
Agreed that they probably won't dive, but I hope they will. They are very aquatic animals.
I did wonder that, but beavers have an extremely varied diet, the majority of which they don't actually get from the water, whereas the moose quite famously will dives very deeply to get aquatic plants, which make up a larger chunk of their diet. I expect the beaver will be able to use it regardless, but I don't think the moose is out of the question (especially considering the fact that the diving moose has become a bit of a meme around here of late).
Where does it say the new underwater feeder is for herbivores? I read again the information and it only says underwater feeder. Maybe it's another fish feeder?
I'm sure I saw it somewhere. In any case it wouldn't be another fish feeder - that would be completely pointless.
I saw the notes, way better then expected. For everybody who couldnt yet, stuck on 4 meters are only cats and bears, crocodilians, seals and sealions are on 3 meter and the caiman and everyone else are 2 meter. Amen
I stand corrected, as the last update made it clear that the limitation is almost entirely hitbox/size/height related, since no big cat would require 4 meter deep water for their welfare. Apparently the deep swimming system isn't guaranteed to work properly otherwise, despite animals being able to dive in shallower water when there is deeper water present. What I can say now is I hope it is possible to fine tune the system further to make it possible for the remaining animals that didn't get their diving animation thresholds lowered use the deep swimming system in shallower water. Such an advancement would also let the ones that got a reduction (like the tiny caiman) dive in even shallower water.
I guess there's a good reason not to do this from an animation standpoint. Think of the vertical height vector of each animal when swimming. The truly aquatic animals keep their limbs close to their body, so their vertical vector tends between 0.5 - 1.2m depending on the species, allowing for navigation in shallow water without cropping through terrain.
Compare it to the diving of bears and cats, which flail around with their limbs in all directions, putting their vertical height vector at 2< m, so they need more water depth to navigate without cropping through terrain.
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Yeah, exactly what I was thinking. At the moment it wouldn't be possible to optimize it further with the current state of the system. Unless they want to expand the game in the direction of aquatics even further, for example a big aquarium expansion and true marine species, I don't see the possibility of reducing thresholds any further. However, such an expansion will allocate more resources in that direction, so it might be possible to fine tune or overhaul the system.