What would you pay for ship interiors?

For me it's what I see out of the window/visor. I would like more planet features rather than ship interiors and yes, I still get the wow feeling when looking at the planets and satellites. When scanning exobio I just want to press 3, disembark, scan and E to re-enter. Yes, at first, interiors would be "oh that's nice" but for me it would become tedious very quickly, unless good gameplay came along with it. Someone said above that it would be good to analyse exobio samples in interiors, but I think a base building feature to do scientific work would be better in my opinion.
So, put an exobio lab in our Fleet Carriers.
Which is what Vista Genomics is.
 
And you need me to tell you why modders shouldn't be any where near Elite 🤷‍♂️
Things I would add:
Blackjack, or a casino, where people can sink their illgotten gains.

More ships!

Did I mention more ships?
The last one we got was 5 years ago or so?

Capital ships, that WE can actually fly, and aren't just a glorified space station that can jump.

The ability to jump to planets. Better FSDs.
The ability to move the FC and not just hope for some RNG.

More Carrier spots.

Modders wouild get all that sorted.

And: A personalised greeting for the FC owner!
 
This company will neither reduce the ridiculous amount of time wasted traveling inside a system or give you something novel to do while doing so.
It's a game about space travel. Space is big and takes time to travel.

Have you seen people playing Microsoft Flight Simulator in real time? Or those Truck Simulators? They spend hours and hours, sometimes days, travelling around on just one planet! They don't even have combat/interdiction to break it up!
 
So, put an exobio lab in our Fleet Carriers.
Which is what Vista Genomics is.
A base (which is off topic of course) is set on a planet. Humankind is planet based and I’d suggest in most cases would prefer to live in a base on a planet rather than a module in a spaceship.
 
How does anyone even consider mod support in this game? It won't happen. Not in this universe! 🙂
I know this thread is a long one but no one is actually considering it.
It was just a hypothetical thing on how could ED be improved when FDev themselves don’t have the will or resources.
 
Requests to be able to do specific things having left the ship? Rather rarer. So the lack of interest as to what the weapons in that trailer might do and whether one of them was actually a weapon or a giant self-powered crocodile clip for jump-starting SRVs? I guess it shouldn't have been a big surprise.

Yeah. Im going to imagine we said something like an in ship link to exobiology, and from pure dreamcrafting (i don't think anyone expected this) some sort of automated resource harvesting from the mining base ground assets?

Good point though, there were not many ideas for what to do once walking on surfaces that really had much conviction. Base building from the leaked roadmap was probably the closest. People were throwing around various ideas of various definitely not's.. and there was no reason to suspect it wasn't going to make it with odd yet.

I'd agree that extended carrier interiors are probably going to be far easier to implement - though, of course, the intersection of "people who care about walking around interior spaces" and "people who have enough spare money to own carriers" is probably too small for commercial success to be an option.

The only counter to that would be the painite rush in the lead up to fleet carriers.. many people who wanted one went to get enough during those times. The the volume of interest in elite was huge at the time too. Yeah that was quite along time ago.. though feels like last week in elite milestones. Yeah not much point in speculating how much of that has carried over today.

As I wrote above, it’s not the existence of the bar that makes me ignore it, but the lack of meaningful gameplay in that bar that makes it not worth my time and attention. It’s a combination of sets, props, and gameplay that makes a good game. But for me, gameplay will always take primacy. In my experience, ornate sets and detailed props are usually there to disguise poor gameplay. As the old saying goes, good graphics is easy but expensive. Good gameplay is cheap but hard.

As a tangent.. how about the space mission board? I have a feeling that would have done it for me. Unimaginable how to date that still hasn't been added. (just as unimagineable about how the armstrong moment is a yamicks meme yet they UPGRADED the srv experience).

The funny thing is, I have yet to hear people raving about the graphics of that game. But they have been going on and on about how great the gameplay is. That’s what makes the difference between a shallow cash grab I’ll never want to play, and a game that’s quickly climbing my “hurry up and take my money” list.

I tried it myself this morning (don't ask). The graphics in the first few hours are slightly below the current high budget games... but as a counter, they did implement more than just shadows ray tracing, which takes something that overall shouldn't look that good... to that good. Its maybe 2 orders of magnitude above odd say. First game i've played with ray tracing.. on ps5... its both really good and "im pretty sure hbao does most of that" at the same time.

Given that Frontier has yet to say something so silly, and nobody has provided evidence to the contrary, feel free to keep on imagining for me. ;)

But they did. I don't want to find the clip, was quite a long time now, back when they where still trying to pr defend odd in earnest. Im sure its been clipped quite often by current and former elite influencers so.. maybe ask stuart gt. Literally said the view of the development team is they dont believe there's gameplay / fun? in the feature, and that being the reason why its not being worked on. We are supposed to let them know if we wont play elite without ship interiors, and if that is the case they'll pass the message on.

EDIT: this is a follow up, seems like there was a prior reference on an official stream prior. The logic is maddening, to me anyway.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0Q3QD0wZi0&t=5173s
 
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Completely agree here.

How would you stop modders adding something that would impact gameplay balance (in the extreme, reintroduce the energy bomb for example)

Or would modders only have the ability to modify cosmetic aspects of the game, in which case I'll pass.
In my hypothetical post I wrote that FDEV would be the last one to do the decision and they would approve or deny mods.
 
The only counter to that would be the painite rush in the lead up to fleet carriers.. many people who wanted one went to get enough during those times.
Oh, tens of thousands of players picked up a Fleet Carrier in the initial rush, and tens of thousands more since.

Odyssey sold well over a hundred thousand copies just on pre-order and was still a massive commercial failure.

FCs are really popular as a feature but still nowhere near enough to build a paid expansion around.
 
In my hypothetical post I wrote that FDEV would be the last one to do the decision and they would approve or deny mods.
There used to be player submitted GalNet articles, which died a death presumably because FDev don't have time to vet them before publishing. Mods would require even more resource.
 
There used to be player submitted GalNet articles, which died a death presumably because FDev don't have time to vet them before publishing. Mods would require even more resource.
It could still be less work than actually modeling/creating content.
But I know it’s all just wishful thinking.
 
But they did. I don't want to find the clip, was quite a long time now, back when they where still trying to pr defend odd in earnest. Im sure its been clipped quite often by current and former elite influencers so.. maybe ask stuart gt. Literally said the view of the development team is they dont believe there's gameplay / fun? in the feature, and that being the reason why its not being worked on. We are supposed to let them know if we wont play elite without ship interiors, and if that is the case they'll pass the message on.

EDIT: this is a follow up, seems like there was a prior reference on an official stream prior. The logic is maddening, to me anyway.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0Q3QD0wZi0&t=5173s

Ah, thank you. I see it's yet another case of general player-base conflating personal opinion with an official position.

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1:28:00 to get boring very quickly for people after that first 10 15 times if you're in a big ship and it takes you 30 40
1:28:07 seconds to get through your ship to get off a planet and then to get off your planet to go into a station where you might drop
1:28:12 something off it will become tiresome because it's not even a it's not a lift where you're just going
1:28:17 in and you haven't got to do anything you actually have to run around and do stuff i don't know that's my thoughts and it's
1:28:22 not necessarily f devs
but at the moment it doesn't add any value they can't see the value out into a gameplay loop if that changes perhaps i'll go back and
1:28:28 relook it but the moment there are no more plans that's me being honest i said before on the stream it may not be the answer
1:28:33 people want to have but i'm a big fan of i'd rather give you the answer than say nothing
 
I constantly see people who encounter the interiors of ships with 0% creativity and reasoning in their opinions, opinions from a sick negativity.

on the other hand, I read creative people who always see a solution to the various challenges that negativity poses.

guess who of these 2 types of people are the ones who achieved things and success.
 
FCs are really popular as a feature but still nowhere near enough to build a paid expansion around.

Sure not big enough, more preexisting. I get they prefer accessible.. i like to speculate we would all be in the same client if the cleanly made odd content on a new planet class like horizons did rather than on all landable planets. Hmmm. Maybe a better ship interior suggestion is required.

Ah, thank you. I see it's yet another case of general player-base conflating personal opinion with an official position.

Really? You ignored the point made in hundreds of forceful words in 2 livestreams so you could go ah-ha? Not funny. :) Have they discussed ship interiors formally since then? If not.. that's it. Id really recommend to go watch that content, its a very keen topic above forum debate. I seriously think its a fundamentally missing feature for my play and would love to have it.
 
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