What's Next for Planet Zoo?

[AlexVonHumbug]

Can't come up with anything, but I think a demonstration would look like a "show" very quickly.

Some interaction between zoo keeper and animal would be nice, though.. At least for some animals

Good point they can be called animal demonstrations or something like that.

so just changing the name of something makes that something better? hmm.

 

[LN]

Can't come up with anything, but I think a demonstration would look like a "show" very quickly.

Some interaction between zoo keeper and animal would be nice, though.. At least for some animals

Oh yeah, but I mean, no flashing lights and music and have them perform stuff on the rythm of the music or let them do tricks they otherwise would never do (riding a bike, jumping through hoops). You'll understand what I mean.

Just a person casually telling what a fantastic animal it is, meanwhile feeding him. Maybe hide food to show his "special talents".

That's more my thing

so just changing the name of something makes that something better? hmm.

I think it's clear what is meant with "show" and what is meant with "demonstrations". They are certainly not the same thing in my eyes.

I try to avoid certain subjects, don't want to step on any toes as certain people have their own wishes that might interfere with mine.

 

[NL_Mutso]

Oh yeah, but I mean, no flashing lights and music and have them perform stuff on the rythm of the music or let them do tricks they otherwise would never do (riding a bike, jumping through hoops). You'll understand what I mean.

Just a person casually telling what a fantastic animal it is, meanwhile feeding him. Maybe hide food to show his "special talents".

That's more my thing

Haha, i think I do.

I think animal training is a more accepting term or feature.
Ask elephants to see under their feet, in their mouths and under their trunks - without any trouble
A zebra learning how to present his/her hooves for trimming

A copy/paste of random bits from a zoo site:

Why do we train our animals?

• Reduces the stress of veterinary procedures
• Enables better, safer animal care
• Provides mental stimulation
• Encourages positive keeper-animal relationships
• Promotes educational opportunities

Our keepers train the animals both on exhibit and off. Signs may be posted to let you know that there is a training session in progress. We encourage our visitors to observe our training sessions. For the safety of our keepers and our animals, we do ask that all questions be held until the session is over.

 

[Firestar97]

Maybe it could be called Education Show or something similar

 

[AlexVonHumbug]

Maybe it could be called Education Show or something similar

the GOOD! education show, just to avoid peoples oppinions.

 

[LN]

Haha, i think I do.

I think animal training is a more accepting term or feature.
Ask elephants to see under their feet, in their mouths and under their trunks - without any trouble
A zebra learning how to present his/her hooves for trimming

A copy/paste of random bits from a zoo site:

Why do we train our animals?

• Reduces the stress of veterinary procedures
• Enables better, safer animal care
• Provides mental stimulation
• Encourages positive keeper-animal relationships
• Promotes educational opportunities

Our keepers train the animals both on exhibit and off. Signs may be posted to let you know that there is a training session in progress. We encourage our visitors to observe our training sessions. For the safety of our keepers and our animals, we do ask that all questions be held until the session is over.

Yep, exactly this!

 

[NZFanatic]

To be fair, keep in mind that Zoo Tycoon 2013 was made under the suffocating limitations of Microsoft at the time. And as for the kind of DLC they're working on, we don't know how they're splitting the work and what they prioritize. The Arctic DLC was barely a month after release, so I'm not too surprised it was very limited. Consider, for instance, they might have different people working on A: completely new animals, and B: "recolours/reworks" of old animals (like the Arctic wolf was). Like, more experienced employees for the former, newbies for the latter. The brand new, unique animals take longer to make, but can be withheld until there's enough of them to make a truly interesting DLC pack.

I don't want to be too optimistic, but Frontier described PZ as "the game we always wanted to make" (while making ZT 2013). And if Planet Coaster is anything to go by, we have 2-3 years of DLC coming, spread over about 12 packs. Plus, studios tend to get better at making games over time.

Me, I kinda hope there's more than 4 animals for some of the packs, because there's SO many great animals to put in the game. I'd also sacrifice new building pieces for a big aquatic animals expansion DLC, without question.

The next DLC will be a good indication of what we can expect. I'm doubtful we'll ever get more than four habitat animals per pack (I'm also wondering if they'll ever add more exhibit animals), but we will see. As to the first paragraph, I think it's clear that the Arctic Pack was in development before launch.

 

[NZFanatic]

the GOOD! education show, just to avoid peoples oppinions.

You can't "avoid people's opinions". When discussing an 'animal show' it's important to differentiate between an abusive circus act/a theme park attraction (like a dolphin show) and an educational event.

Wellington Zoo here in NZ has a daily "show", but you'd never see dancing bears or anything of the sort in it. They bring out hand-reared parrots (i.e. pets), hand-reared dingoes, and oftentimes large reptiles. Once they brought out a hand-reared otter, but not without stressing the fact that the otter was orphaned at a young age. The animals also didn't do any tricks. The birds would fly around the hall, show off their wings, that kind of thing. The dingoes didn't do much of anything - they were basically there for the 'wow' factor. The reptiles were mainly brought in so that after the show people could come down and get a close look at them (no touching, though, not with all the grimey-handed kids running about).

Point is, the shows were used to give the keepers a chance to talk about how important it is that we do X and Y to protect the planet's biodiversity. The animals being there was more of a flashy lure to bring people in and get them to listen.

 

[AlexVonHumbug]

You can't "avoid people's opinions". When discussing an 'animal show' it's important to differentiate between an abusive circus act/a theme park attraction (like a dolphin show) and an educational event.

Wellington Zoo here in NZ has a daily "show", but you'd never see dancing bears or anything of the sort in it. They bring out hand-reared parrots (i.e. pets), hand-reared dingoes, and oftentimes large reptiles. Once they brought out a hand-reared otter, but not without stressing the fact that the otter was orphaned at a young age. The animals also didn't do any tricks. The birds would fly around the hall, show off their wings, that kind of thing. The dingoes didn't do much of anything - they were basically there for the 'wow' factor. The reptiles were mainly brought in so that after the show people could come down and get a close look at them (no touching, though, not with all the grimey-handed kids running about).

Point is, the shows were used to give the keepers a chance to talk about how important it is that we do X and Y to protect the planet's biodiversity. The animals being there was more of a flashy lure to bring people in and get them to listen.

it is very said, that i have to explain, so i will not.

 

[NZFanatic]

it is very said, that i have to explain, so i will not.

It seems that English is not your first language, so perhaps you could explain if I took the wrong meaning from your post.

 

[Jeminyne]

ZT2013 felt more like a mix between ZT and ZT2. A lot of people loved the interaction feature from ZT2. And I don't see Kinect (introduced in 2010) as outdated in 2013.
I know, the Wii was a lot earlier with this technology..

I don't really get how it felt like a combination of the two? Mainly because the shared feature of both games was that you could build your exhibits. And ZT2013 doesn't have that, you just plop down fully formed habitats.

Despite the kinect not being "outdated," I still agree that they were force-squeezing money out of subpar technology that didn't have a very long life, past games for young children.

 

[Baryonix82]

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_57r-cLXDw&t=357s
(America´s Edition)

 

[avietar]

I saw the new one!

I'm really not sure about all the extra wolf and bear suggestions. But the little monkeys, the foxes, the big cats and small cats, deer and moose? Yes please!

 

[paul78]

Yeah I’m totally open to any foxes that could be in planet zoo. Also if they did add more bears I’d hope for sloth,Andean,and sun bear species. So far no dlc news from frontier and I agree with sdanwolfs latest dlc video where he says current content is getting stale. Me personally I’ve yet to play every single animal on the current roster but I very much agree a new dlc would add a little spark to the game. Only question is what it will be.

 

[NZFanatic]

Yeah I’m totally open to any foxes that could be in planet zoo. Also if they did add more bears I’d hope for sloth,Andean,and sun bear species. So far no dlc news from frontier and I agree with sdanwolfs latest dlc video where he says current content is getting stale. Me personally I’ve yet to play every single animal on the current roster but I very much agree a new dlc would add a little spark to the game. Only question is what it will be.

A lot of the speculation on YouTube is pretty nonsensical though. I saw the Sdanwolf video as well - he said that aquatic animals like seals, sea lions, and penguins probably wouldn't be coming because swimming is too hard on the engine, but somehow thinks birds are more likely? In terms of animation, collision, and traversible area, aquatic animals would be infinitely easier than birds.

Of course, I don't think either is especially likely as yet (unless the birds are, as most of us expect, exhibit animals like in JWE). Part of me is convinced that at least one animal in the next DLC will be the black rhinoceros. I'm not entirely sure why, but my instincts are saying that it's going to be coming soon (maybe along with a few other high-demand, easy-to-make animals, like the jaguar as well - I actually dreamed last night that we got the jaguar, so I guess we'll see if it was prophetic).

 

[Klebsiella04]

I know that we already have lots of African animals, but I feel like there are definitely more they could add as well. Since they already have an African themed building pack though, I'm not sure how they'd implement this. But they didn't include several animals that I feel are essential to the African experience:

Black/White Rhinoceros (Probably the black rhino since they are more at risk)
Leopard (Naturally the African variant is popular but they could add the Javan or Anatolian subspecies if they wanted to emphasize their conservation)
Fennec Fox (A personal fave from ZT2 )
Fossa (A creature I'd deem unusual enough to make the cut)
Caracal/Serval (I'd love to see both, but if they only add one the serval would be cool)
Meerkat(These would be really cool to see in shared habitats)

On another note, I'll be genuinely annoyed if they add another species of bear or wolf with the same behavior set as the current ones.

 

[Klebsiella04]

A lot of the speculation on YouTube is pretty nonsensical though. I saw the Sdanwolf video as well - he said that aquatic animals like seals, sea lions, and penguins probably wouldn't be coming because swimming is too hard on the engine, but somehow thinks birds are more likely? In terms of animation, collision, and traversible area, aquatic animals would be infinitely easier than birds.

Of course, I don't think either is especially likely as yet (unless the birds are, as most of us expect, exhibit animals like in JWE). Part of me is convinced that at least one animal in the next DLC will be the black rhinoceros. I'm not entirely sure why, but my instincts are saying that it's going to be coming soon (maybe along with a few other high-demand, easy-to-make animals, like the jaguar as well - I actually dreamed last night that we got the jaguar, so I guess we'll see if it was prophetic).

I'd love to see the jaguar! Actually, on that note it'd be cool to get a "Wild Cat" DLC, with leopards, jaguars, clouded leopards, caracals, and mountain lions perhaps. They could even have a "Wild Cat" theme (Even though up to this point the themes have been regional)

 

[paul78]

@NZFanatic I know we have a lot of African animals all ready but I hope your right. I actually would love to get both black and white rhino species. But I’ll take either one. They would be right at home in the African section of my zoo

 

[wowman]

A lot of the speculation on YouTube is pretty nonsensical though. I saw the Sdanwolf video as well - he said that aquatic animals like seals, sea lions, and penguins probably wouldn't be coming because swimming is too hard on the engine, but somehow thinks birds are more likely? In terms of animation, collision, and traversible area, aquatic animals would be infinitely easier than birds.

Of course, I don't think either is especially likely as yet (unless the birds are, as most of us expect, exhibit animals like in JWE). Part of me is convinced that at least one animal in the next DLC will be the black rhinoceros. I'm not entirely sure why, but my instincts are saying that it's going to be coming soon (maybe along with a few other high-demand, easy-to-make animals, like the jaguar as well - I actually dreamed last night that we got the jaguar, so I guess we'll see if it was prophetic).

Birds could be handled pretty easily if managed like what is already in the game.
1. perching birds - can be set up like the current exhibit animals. In a box on a branch, and every time you view it, they are in a different position in the exhibit. I would think simple animation can happen as well, like wing flaps and head moves. This would cover most birds you would see in a zoo.
2. larger birds of prey. Almost can be handled the same way but with larger exhibits. Most of these types of birds...in a zoo...do not fly around that much. they would only have to move within the (controlled) constraints of the exhibit. Again I would think they could add animation and be more flexible within the exhibit as well...like flying from one brach to another or up and down to the ground, or to a feed.
3. ground birds should act like any other ground animals already in the game.
4. aviaries become more difficult, but again, if you control it like a large exhibit, hit boxes can become less if a problem.

The already have pigeons flying around the game and they seem to interact with the environment quite well already.

 

[Dienstbier]

Pigeons?

Are there pigeons in Planet Zoo?

Where?

Can you only see them with good graphics settings?