What's really missing: Iron man mode

Laxey

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And I mean a real one. Not just clearing your own save whenever you die, because that way I'm the only idiot who dies, while everyone else doesn't have to more than a few minutes of gameplay. We need separate Ironman servers!

You know, the way death works is about the only thing that has really bothered me at all about ED. It's just too cheap and not scary at all to simply wake up at the next starport, pay a few credits and fly off with the exact same ship you had before, even if Backwater Colony can't even sell you an Anaconda or whatever as long as you're still alive. Think about it: The most dangerous thing you can do in ED isn't bounty hunting or piracy, it's exploration - if you burn up in a star on the other side of the galaxy, you lose millions worth of data and your journey more or less never happened. Scant comfort that you get your ASP back in that case. But get your handed to you in some combat zone and you're back there with the same equipment five minutes later. Now that's what I call unbalanced.

And then I see stuff like the Salomé event, which would probably have gone down very differently if there had been some risk for everyone who wanted to take part...

So: Iron man mode. It was announced anyway, before the launch, IIRC.
 

Comrade Napoleon

Comrade Napoleon
Completely idiotic and infantile suggestion, IMO !!
You can clear your own save any time you want, amirite?

So your suggestion smells in the direction of you only feel "satisfaction" in that other may be punished likewise in case of death?
Play as you want and let others do the same!!
But you need the "salt", amirite ?
Meh!!

Cheers Cmdr's
 
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Spenceuk99

Spenceuk99
If you are going to go with an Ironman mode, it definitely needs bigger rewards. I am talking Yuge! They gotta be Yuuuuuuge.

And how bad would you feel if you were running a docking computer and some little git sucided in a sidey by crashing into you?
 
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Ragamuffin1979

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Hopefully an iron man mode will have high taxes on all income to allow players that don't want to do any work to still get get good ships.
 
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Gunnet

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I generally support purely optional features which wouldn't affect anybody but the user. But I've got to be honest, the first line of your post essentially saying "sure, I can already play ironman; but what I really want is to make other people play ironman" makes it kind of difficult to be positive about it.
 

Madrax573

Madrax573
I don't have much of an issue with an ironman mode per say. However given that a lot of the content is locked behind permits or rank systems then those are not conductive of an ironman mode.

While I don't play Ironman as such I have reset my save on numerous occasions when I feel it is time and the rank/permit locked stuff is a total pain to keep redoing so maybe if they linked it to accounts rather than CMDRS or changed it so that it wasn't so much work then it might work.

However I feel that a dedicated ironman mode would be dead 99% of the time as people don't want that kind of risk constantly.
 

Leadfoot

Leadfoot
SC, as I understand it, will have a type of thing in that if you die more than 3 or 4 times, your beneficiary gets your money and your beneficiary takes over from where your original character died, albeit at some starting point at home getting the bad news about your passing.

That said, there are times when fumbling at the keyboard or being distracted by something in the room might cause you to have an accident, destroying thousands of hours of work by a simple error. HOWEVER: I would like to see situations where it might be implemented in-game, such as flying into a black hole or being eaten by a thargoid (should that ever happen). Certain encounters SHOULD make you sweat bullets. Just my 2¢, of course.
 
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Zambrick

Zambrick
Laxey said:
And I mean a real one. Not just clearing your own save whenever you die, because that way I'm the only idiot who dies, while everyone else doesn't have to more than a few minutes of gameplay. We need separate Ironman servers!

You know, the way death works is about the only thing that has really bothered me at all about ED. It's just too cheap and not scary at all to simply wake up at the next starport, pay a few credits and fly off with the exact same ship you had before, even if Backwater Colony can't even sell you an Anaconda or whatever as long as you're still alive. Think about it: The most dangerous thing you can do in ED isn't bounty hunting or piracy, it's exploration - if you burn up in a star on the other side of the galaxy, you lose millions worth of data and your journey more or less never happened. Scant comfort that you get your ASP back in that case. But get your handed to you in some combat zone and you're back there with the same equipment five minutes later. Now that's what I call unbalanced.

And then I see stuff like the Salomé event, which would probably have gone down very differently if there had been some risk for everyone who wanted to take part...

So: Iron man mode. It was announced anyway, before the launch, IIRC.
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Yep and then in uninstalls, blocks your IP, blocks email address, and physical billing address as well.
So no more game for you.
 

kiario

kiario
I agree on hardcore servers. Would be great especially now with crew members. If you make mistake and ship goes boom so does all crew :)
 

Jenner

I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
Jenner
I'm all for ironman mode IF that mode would be exclusive. That is, only ironman mode players would be matched together.
 

Kaocraft

Kaocraft
Amazing the hostility people have towards this idea. I personally would *love* it, but it really does need to be its own mode with its own separate save slot. Which is why it's fundamentally unworkable. Frontier seem to be unwilling to let us have more than one save game per account, which is a shame and huge missed opportunity.
 

Duckfat

Duckfat
Comrade Napoleon said:
Completely idiotic and infantile suggestion, IMO !!
You can clear your own save any time you want, amirite?

So your suggestion smells in the direction of you only feel "satisfaction" in that other may be punished likewise in case of death?
Play as you want and let others do the same!!
But you need the "salt", amirite ?
Meh!!

Cheers Cmdr's

Cheers Cmdrs
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Easy there Porky. Wipe that foam off your mouth and read up on the mode in other games. You deliberately choose the mode upon character creation. It's not forced on anyone. The OP is just asking for the feature to be implemented in the game properly, which I doubt would be difficult.
 
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Wyaston Hypatia

Wyaston Hypatia
+1 from me.

It's sad to see some of the miss-informed reactions to a sensible suggestion, that will have no effect on those who don't want such a mode.
 

SP45M

SP45M
Madrax573 said:
I don't have much of an issue with an ironman mode per say. However given that a lot of the content is locked behind permits or rank systems then those are not conductive of an ironman mode.

While I don't play Ironman as such I have reset my save on numerous occasions when I feel it is time and the rank/permit locked stuff is a total pain to keep redoing so maybe if they linked it to accounts rather than CMDRS or changed it so that it wasn't so much work then it might work.

However I feel that a dedicated ironman mode would be dead 99% of the time as people don't want that kind of risk constantly.
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So if you don't want to do ranking and permits etc why not just burn your assets instead of resetting your save.
 

CATPAIN KIRK

CATPAIN KIRK
Absolutely, yes. Ironman as a separate mode was part of the DDF and part of the reason I backed the game. Not sure about the irrational mouth-foaming in some of the replies - most of the games I play offer IM/Hardcore/Legendary modes and I play them exclusively in these modes.
 

masCh

masCh
What you want actually if you analyse it, is the sense of loss when you die. It does not have to be limited to IronMan. It can be part of the main game.

For example the crew members. Let certain big ships only function 33% without than NPC crew (if you have 2 crew seats) and 50% if you have 1 crew seat. That means you'll need to take a crew member to have your ships functioning the way it is currently in the game. Basically, if you don't have a gunner, your distributor is 50% efficient. Get rid of that extra 5th pip and make it fully part of the ship (no gunner : maximum 2 pips in weapons).

Then when you die, you lose your crew member if you had one in the ship. You'll have to go hire another one. That's the loss. You won't be crying on your desk like a proper IronMan mode, but this is a compromise in between.
 
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