Ian Phillips
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Try an engineered Cobra Mk III.
When can we actually expect some real gameplay content?
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Try an engineered Cobra Mk III.
When FDev stop pandering to the demands of the minority PvP player base.
Yup, because that seems to be the only way that FD know how to make the game hard... Rather than looking at the game holistically and seeing there is more than one way to skin a cat.
Good post. Some good ideas in it.
When it comes to the last paragropgh though, don't forget Frontier's constraint, in the order they have to bring in features; the (developing) game architecture .. For instance, they couldn't introduce different grades of fuel unless they have a (modular) way to add a modifier to the engines that the fuel grade can act on. That modifier / variable came in with 2.2 for which the headline was, Engineers. [Now you can RNG, or just add 1, to the thruster values].
Yes, the update added engineers but it also added floating values on module stats, which Frontier might also use for things like (say) cascading damage models, as well as plain old fuel grades which is why I believe they use a modular approach to building the game. Frontier are keeping their options open, as far as they can, and what people see as design 'choices' seem largely to be first drafts of 'some' of the things each new addition to the architecture enables, game-wise and as each next feature has to be built on the last, these aren't always choices as such;
Powerplay came really early and the reaction to that 'decision' was like, "huh?" .. BUT PP added a way to mirror the main BGS, as powerplay also reads and writes to the main galaxy map, which is THE most fundamental system in the game. So powerplay gave FD options for adding variations to the main BGS but critically without having to mess about with the main BGS (and risk killing it). Some genius programmers in Cambridge that's a promise, and the game? .. Is what you make it.
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It is also about philosophy of the direction they want to take the game and most of the problems of game come down to the philosophy.
Example?
But the problem with that engineer is that it may be Federal aligned, but any high ranking Imperial player can come along and get the upgrade, when in all realms of continuity and common sense the Federal engineer would tell him to get lost and maybe send some fireworks to see him off.
Of course, this will never happen, because the philosophy of what they are introducing is all wrong.
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The freedom of allowing players to do what they want when they want with no consequences. Hence why you can pirate one second and bounty hunt the next with almost no consequence to your game. Hence why players pirating in systems have never been banned from docking at the stations.
You see this kind of things is great but here's nothing in the way Engineers are designed that PREVENTS (the station) from reading your faction rep .. it's just that isn't a priority, when the fundamental 2.2 build is about adding floating module variables, I think?
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It's good. But again there's nothing in the design that stops one faction from reading your rep with a different faction, it already reads in your right panel. Frontier's priority though, has been to get the game up and running and to give ways to earn rep (that another faction can frown on later) in the first place?
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Most problems come down to budget and time constraints. Anyone can write a forum post listing out their dream features. Actually building and shipping a product is an entirely different thing.
Egosoft has roundabout 20 people working there, yet their games have a lot more content. Sounds like mismanagement to me.
Tim Schafer involved somewhere at FD?
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They do not have a lot more content.
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dynamicbob
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http://imgur.com/a/rMKSZ
courtesty of tosoco over on reddit, shows a possible science based expansion, using extension of existing mechanics let us know what u think folks
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Couresty of ToSoCo on reddit here is some ideas from a few months back the devs could pickup and run with if they wanted to actually add the off quoted missing depth in the game especially in the exploration area of the game.
http://imgur.com/a/rMKSZ
Feel free to discuss folks
courtesty of tosoco over on reddit, shows a possible science based expansion, using extension of existing mechanics let us know what u think folks
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Couresty of ToSoCo on reddit here is some ideas from a few months back the devs could pickup and run with if they wanted to actually add the off quoted missing depth in the game especially in the exploration area of the game.
http://imgur.com/a/rMKSZ
Feel free to discuss folks
You're right, that's pretty much what it is, but there's a difference. A very important (imo) difference. The rate of progression (as in new ships) is a fraction of what it was in FE2. One of the things that kept me hooked in FE2 was the vast array of ships available and the fact that there weren't hundreds of millions of credits seperating them.
Every time you hit a milestone (your first million, your first two million etc...) there was something new to play with in terms of ships. Upgrading from one ship to the next felt like a constant, but gradual process. In ED you're stuck in the same ship for days/weeks/months depending on how hard you grind credits. If you play the game like a "normal" person (say an hour or so a day during the week, a few hours a day at weekend) you can find yourself stuck in a mid tier (6 - 7 mil ship) for a long long time. This takes away any feeling of you actually moving forward in the game and gives it the feeling of a f2p mmo. Tons of effort with minimal reward.
I'm not even going to talk about RNGineers and grinding their requirements, that truly lies in the realm of f2p.
The X games have a faecal ton more content than ED, I don't know how you can say that with a straight face (font?). ED has billions of systems, that all look pretty much the same and all have nothing in them other than randomly generated bodies. That's not "content", that's the canvas. The content is the painting, not the canvas itself.
I've just started playing, so take that for what it is, but I hardly notice a difference between playing in Open and playing in Single Player. I think that is the biggest shame for me. The only draw to open: "Oooh I can get inderdicted by some jerk and blown up because I have no cargo to even give him". I think I'll go play SP from now on. Hmmm.
It's easy to ignore it when there isn't much!
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