When you have a bounty on your head and you are killed...

[dementia]

... does that bounty disappear?

The background to this is that I have, through various naughtiness, run up a bounty of about 200K on my head however the rebuy costs for my ship is sitting at about 70K.

If the bounty is written off when you die then it would be much cheaper for me to be killed and rebuy my ship that it would be for me to pay the bounty off.

Is that understanding correct?

 

[scorpyon]

I don't know, but I'd like to know this also for future reference if/when I turn my eyes to a wee bit of naughty pirate goodness...

 

[Morbid-Curiosity]

AFAIK the bounty becomes dormant when you die. At that point you will not show as wanted, but will have a dormant bounty showing in your status screen (right panel) but when you are scanned by a system authority vessel the bounty goes live again and you have to pay it off. I'm afraid there's no escaping your bounty.

 

[Smelina]

From Q&A...

My ship has been destroyed and the ship rebuy costs include bounties and fines. Why?

When your ship is destroyed, your escape pod will be recovered to the last station you docked at. If you happen to have committed crimes within that jurisdiction, then the star systems authority will include payment of your fines and bounties as part of the recovery process. They will not let you fly until you have repaid your debts, so be careful not to get killed in, for example, Federation space if you have a large Federal bounty on your head.

 

[Mephane]

It becomes dormant and thus hidden until the police of the respective faction (e.g. Federation) scans you and thereby reactivates the bounty. The only way to permanently remove a bounty is to pay the bill.

 

[Tigga]

If it is claimed, ie. known about by the person who is credited with the kill, then it clears. You still have to pay it on rebuy if you respawn a sector with it I think.

If it is not claimed (ie. self-destruct, or somesuch) then it goes dorment, to be reactived when you commit another crime. I don't know if you then have to repay if you die again and respawn where you have a dorment bounty. I think you do.

 

[ciger]

not sure how it works to be honest but i did have bounty in fed space, got a bit careless which has gotten me killed by fed security services and the bounty then was cleared and paid off my account. so it looks as if you get owned in a jurisdiction that has a bounty on your head it will be paid off your account and then cleared.

or maybe the last dock you respawn to has something to do with how the bounty is handled.

wonder what would happen should i not have enough credits to cover both the bounty and insurance. back to sidewinder? or dormant bounty that was in excess of available credits? anyone know the answer to this?

 

[Hethwill_Khan]

It will go dormant if you die, not killed. For example, smack against a station wall.

If you are killed by another ship, human or NPC it is old way, you pay your bail on top of the insurance.

 

[ciger]

It will go dormant if you die, not killed. For example, smack against a station wall.

If you are killed by another ship, human or NPC it is old way, you pay your bail on top of the insurance.

not 100% true, i was killed by an NPC in a system where i was clean and all the bounties went dormant. so to me it looks like it is either the jurisdiction you get killed in or the dock you spawn to after death.

 

[noldunar]

If you die in the jurisdiction in which you have the bounty it will be deducted from your account, together with your rebuy cost. If you don't have enough money for rebuy and bounty you can take a loan of up to 200,000 credits. If that still is not enough for your rebuy and bounty and you don't have any other ships to fall back to it is back to sidewinder. Everything else would not make any sense. Otherwise everybodies max. bounty would be their rebuy value as they would just destroy themselves to pay rebuy instead of bounty (if bounty is higher).

 

[SE-Apocalypse]

... does that bounty disappear?

The background to this is that I have, through various naughtiness, run up a bounty of about 200K on my head however the rebuy costs for my ship is sitting at about 70K.

If the bounty is written off when you die then it would be much cheaper for me to be killed and rebuy my ship that it would be for me to pay the bounty off.

Is that understanding correct?

When you die and someone claims your bounty (which only player can do) than your bounty is gone, if you die to an npc and you respawn at a station were you are wanted than you have to pay your bounty or get back to your sidewinder. If you respawn at a station which is cool with you than your bounty becomes dormant and will only become active again if someone from the faction that has this bounty with you scans you. At this point that bounty becomes active again.

All this is subject to change, they plan to change the bounty system to make it more robust against exploiting and make it more meaningful at the same time and maybe less of a pita too with those dormant bounties that player can forget so easily.

If you like I can collect those 200k bounty for you and make you that way clean again. ;-)

 

[Zhang]

As the saying goes, don't defecate where you eat. So, make your home system/station in a jurisdiction away from where you do your naughty stuff. For example, park in Alliance space, pop over and go wild in Fed space. Run up your bounty without care or worry. If your ship is destroyed, your pod will turn up at your last station docked, in this case in Alliance space. Bounty is dormant, no payment extracted, get your new ship. Rinse, repeat.

 

[dementia]

As the saying goes, don't defecate where you eat. So, make your home system/station in a jurisdiction away from where you do your naughty stuff. For example, park in Alliance space, pop over and go wild in Fed space. Run up your bounty without care or worry. If your ship is destroyed, your pod will turn up at your last station docked, in this case in Alliance space. Bounty is dormant, no payment extracted, get your new ship. Rinse, repeat.

All my bounties were picked up in independent systems.

 

[SuBSynk]

Even if claimed by a player the bounty does not simply disappear but on death a bounty always go's dormant unless you are taken back to a system/station in which you are wanted.

A player must pay their bounty one way or another even if that bounty is claimed by another player.

The cost of your bounty is added to your insurance and without paying the full amount you cannot respawn. (if in a system/station that is the issuer of the fines)

 

[SE-Apocalypse]

As the saying goes, don't defecate where you eat. So, make your home system/station in a jurisdiction away from where you do your naughty stuff. For example, park in Alliance space, pop over and go wild in Fed space. Run up your bounty without care or worry. If your ship is destroyed, your pod will turn up at your last station docked, in this case in Alliance space. Bounty is dormant, no payment extracted, get your new ship. Rinse, repeat.

Having the habit to only dock at anarchy systems might help too ;-)

 

[SuBSynk]

When you die and someone claims your bounty (which only player can do) than your bounty is gone.

If you like I can collect those 200k bounty for you and make you that way clean again. ;-)

This is incorrect, you always have to pay off your fines/bounty no matter how you are killed but there is a chance based on location your bounty/fine will go dormant.

 

[Anthony Jones]

I had 1.1 mill in cash
i had a galaxy wide bounty of just over 600k (900k to pay it off)

my ship rebuy value was 220k

when I died ( got shot by a capital ship) I had to pay the 900k + the re-buy value of my ship which was worth a few million

i ended up with my ship back 1000 credits and I had a loan that I had to pay off.

if I gad gotten a bigger bounty before I died I would of had to declare bankrupt and been back to sidewinder and 1000k

 

[Zhang]

I had 1.1 mill in cash
i had a galaxy wide bounty of just over 600k (900k to pay it off)

my ship rebuy value was 220k

when I died ( got shot by a capital ship) I had to pay the 900k + the re-buy value of my ship which was worth a few million

i ended up with my ship back 1000 credits and I had a loan that I had to pay off.

if I gad gotten a bigger bounty before I died I would of had to declare bankrupt and been back to sidewinder and 1000k

Bet that moment was nail bitingly fun, innit? Cash is king in Elite. Don't fly what you can't afford, and don't do any fecal matter or mayhem that you can't afford too.

 

[SE-Apocalypse]

This is incorrect, you always have to pay off your fines/bounty no matter how you are killed but there is a chance based on location your bounty/fine will go dormant.

Several players reported exactly this. No paying for your sins when a player kills you and a developer commented on it as well and told us that they will change this part.

But don´t take my word. just test it, but I rather take the word of tigga as an experience pirate over yours on this subject for now. Seems to be a glitch just like point defense guns not able to damage dumbfire missiles, or people randomly just blowing up or … I better stop, before I list every feature of elite. ;-)

 

[SuBSynk]

Several players reported exactly this. No paying for your sins when a player kills you and a developer commented on it as well and told us that they will change this part.

But don´t take my word. just test it, but I rather take the word of tigga as an experience pirate over yours on this subject for now. Seems to be a glitch just like point defense guns not able to damage dumbfire missiles, or people randomly just blowing up or … I better stop, before I list every feature of elite. ;-)

I have died at the hand of players several times with bounties of over 1 mill and honestly you do not get your bounty wiped on death, possibly a bug was causing this in the past but not anymore happened to me just today with 2.4 mill bounty