Where for art thou Germanium and Arsenic????

CoyoteXStarrk

CoyoteXStarrk
I would shiv the Emperor myself and take a dump on Hudson's desk for some Germanium and Arsenic right now.


I decided to take a break from my rank grind to farm the materials I will need once I FINALLY get my Cutter. And one of the main things I need is Germanium/Arsenic for obvious reasons and I have now spent 4 hours on 5 different planets trying to find some and I have not found a SINGLE ONE OF EITHER.



Now the wiki and Inara says that Germanium and Arsenic is found by surface prospecting, but my last 4 hours of gameplay begs to differ. So what exactly am I missing here? Were the parameters changed? Are they no longer available that way?



WHERE IS THE STUFF

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rOmiLaYu

rOmiLaYu
I know you're frustrated, but just as a point of order, "wherefore" means "why." Juliette wasn't asking for his location so much as a metaphysical question as to why he was who he was and he couldn't have been someone other than Romeo.

But to your point, check eddb.io, it will list percentages of elements. Also, prospect near the colored parts of the planet that correspond to the element you're looking for.
 

shreddog

shreddog
Factabulous said:
Find a planet with Geo / Bio signals & with As / Ge in the composition. Visit the POI. Simples.
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Good tip right here.

Will save you allot of frustrating driving looking for those meteorites.

edit: you need to shoot out the chrystalline fragments and clusters for the materials to drop.
 
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CoyoteXStarrk

CoyoteXStarrk
Factabulous said:
Find a planet with Geo / Bio signals & with As / Ge in the composition. Visit the POI. Simples.
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I have no idea what this means.


Speak as if you were talking to someone who has never looked for engineering materials in their life. Because I have spent 99% of my time in the game doing basic missions. I don't even have Guardian stuff yet.


I mean I haven't even found Germanium or Arsenic yet AT ALL. Its an undiscovered material in my game.
 
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Factabulous

Factabulous
CoyoteXStarrk said:
I have no idea what this means.


Speak as if you were talking to someone who has never looked for engineering materials in their life. Because I have spent 99% of my time in the game doing basic missions. I don't even have Guardian stuff yet.


I mean I haven't even found Germanium or Arsenic yet AT ALL. Its an undiscovered material in my game.
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from https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...e-Exploration-Tools-With-Demonstration-Videos
 
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rOmiLaYu

rOmiLaYu
CoyoteXStarrk said:
I have no idea what this means.


Speak as if you were talking to someone who has never looked for engineering materials in their life. Because I have spent 99% of my time in the game doing basic missions. I don't even have Guardian stuff yet.


I mean I haven't even found Germanium or Arsenic yet AT ALL. Its an undiscovered material in my game.
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Go here: https://eddb.io/body

Type in Germanium and then later Arsenic. Enter the system in which you currently are as the reference system. Then filter by percentage. Head there, land, shoot rocks, profit.
 

Ashnak

Ashnak
Ok, if ou're starting from zero and have no idea who eddb are or why they are there or don't want to use them):

0) arrive in a system
1) honk your FSS (discovery scanner)
2) go into FSS mode and scan the system, baby. Especially look out for planets/moons which show, when scanning, in the upper right corner of the FSS screen, after completing the scan, biological or geological features
2b) either mark those planets directly or at least remember which one(s) they were (I rarely found more than one in one system) and then select hem form the system map
3) also in the system map, check which minerals this planet has to offer.

Steps 1-3 can be simplified by simply looking up a suitable planet in eddb, based on your current location. For example, the nearest volcanic planet to Sol with Arsenic would be Europa, in Sol itself.

4) Approch that planet and play a round of planet golf (i.e. scan it with the DSS surface scanner)
5) after that surface scan, you will have (first iin your nav panel, when you appoach also in your HUD) a number of geological or bilogical surface features available, similar to POIs (like tourist beacons). Choose one and land at it
6) grab your SRV, shoot anything that is movable (like Needle Crystals, Phlegm or Protrusions) and collect the resulting debris (i.e. materials - drop the cargo scoop and select whatever you want to pick up, then drive over it)

7) Profit!

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Ok, just shooting the rocks also works - but I find it much more tedious to find those rocks first than simply scan for magma spouts from orbit.
 
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CoyoteXStarrk

CoyoteXStarrk
rOmiLaYu said:
I know you're frustrated, but just as a point of order, "wherefore" means "why." Juliette wasn't asking for his location so much as a metaphysical question as to why he was who he was and he couldn't have been someone other than Romeo.
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umbabrahattasil said:
Just to be that guy at the party no one likes... wherefore art thou actually means "Why are you here" not "where are you". Cheers!
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Ian Doncaster

Ian Doncaster
CoyoteXStarrk said:
Oh so its that easy.....and I wasted all night running in circles.
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The key is that not every planet has every material. There's something called the 3-2-1 rule: each planet will have 3 from set A, 2 from set B, and 1 from set C (as well as them all having Iron, Nickel, and if not metal-rich Carbon, Sulphur and Phosphorous). You can read this off the system map or your FSS readout of the planet.

Set A is approximately - but not exactly - the grade 2 materials, Set B is approximately the grade 3 materials, and Set C is approximately the grade 4 materials. There are exceptions, though - Selenium is Set A, but grade 4, which means it's relatively easy to find for what you trade for it. So you will never find, for example, a single planet with both Ruthenium and Technetium (Set C). But you can find plenty of planets with both Chromium and Vanadium (Set A).
 

Stealthie

Stealthie
I was tripping over Arsenic on Wolf 587 4ea last night.
Shame I was looking for Selenium at the time. [where is it]

FWIW, here's a little text-file which I find useful for all my casual mat-gathering activities.

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Material Locations
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Antimony: Mufrid A1a
Arsenic: Masszony 1aa
Cadmium: Tiris 1c
Carbon: Ross 210 AB1ca
Chromium: Edanditis 1
Germanium: Zavijah 8ca
Iron: Iah Lanitei C1
Manganese: Mizar D1
Mercury: Lalande 10797 C1
Molybdenum: Tiris 1c
Nickel: Tiris 1c
Niobium: Mortel A1
Phosphorus: Ross 210 AB1ca
Polonium: Tiris 1c
Ruthenium: Mortel A1
Selenium: Wolf 587 4ea
Sulphur: Ross 210 AB1ca
Technetium: Iah Lanitei C1
Tellurium: Shibboleth 2ha
Tin: Iah Lanitei C1
Tungsten: Iah Lanitei C1
Vanadium: Iah Lanitei C1
Yttrium: Epsilon Ceti A1
Zinc: Epsilon Ceti A1
Zirconium: Iah Lanitei C1


-------------------------------
G5 grinding from signal sources
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Pharma isolators: uss high grade in outbreak state system.
Core dynamics: uss high grade in federal system in boom state.
Imperial shielding:uss high grade in imperial system.
Improvised components: uss high grade. state civil unrest. ( not civil war )
Military grade alloys: uss high grade. state in civil war or war.
Military supercap: uss high grade. State war or civil war.
Proto heat radiators: high grade uss. Boom state.
Proto radiolic alloys: high grade uss. Boom state.


----------
Mat Groups
----------
Raw.
Carbon[1] - Vanadium[2] - Nobium[3] - Ytrium[4]
Phosphorus[1] - Chromium[2] - Molybdenum[3] - Technetium[4]
Sulphur[1] - Manganese[2] - Cadmium[3] - Ruthenium[4]
Iron[1] - Zinc[2] - Tin[3] - Selenium[4]
Nickel[1] - Germanium[2] - Tungsten[3] - Tellurium[4]
Rhenium[1] - Arsenic[2] - Mercury[3] - Polonium[5]
Lead[1] - Zirconium[4] - Boron[1] - Antimony[5]


Manufactured.
Chem Stg Unit[1] - Chem Prcr[2] - Chem Dstl[3] - Chem Mnp[4] - Pharma Isol[5]
Temp Alloy[1] Heat Res Ceram[2] - Precip Alloy[3] - Thermic Alloy[4] - Mil Grade Alloy[5]
Heat Cond Wiring[1] - Heat Disp Plate[2] - Heat Exchanger[3] - Heat Vanes[4] - Proto Heat Rad[5]
Basic Cond[1] - Cond Comp[2] - Cond Ceram[3] - Cond Poly[4] - Biotech Cond[5]
Mech Scrap [1] - Mech Equip[2] - Mech Comp[3] - Conf Comp[4] - Improv Comp[5]
Grid Rstr[1] - Hybrid Cap[2] - Elec Chem Array[3] - Polymer Cap[4] - Mil SuperCap[5]
Worn Shld Emtr[1] - Shld Emtr[2] - Shld Sensor[3] - Compound Shld[4] - Imp Shld[5]
Compact Comp[1] - Filament Comp[2] - HD Comp[3] - Prop Comp[4] - CD Comp[5]
Crystal Shard[1] - Flawed F Crystal [2] - F Crystal[3] - Ref F Crystal[4] - Exq F Crystal[5]
Slvgd Alloy[1] - Galv Alloy[2] - Phase Alloy[3] - Proto L Alloy[4] - Proto R Alloy[5]


Encoded.
Excep Scrmbld Em Data[1] - Irreg Em Data[2] - Unexp Em Data[3] - Decoded Em Data[4] - Abnrml Compact Em Data[5]
Atyp Disr Wake Echo[1] - Anom FSD Telemetry[2] - Strng Wake Sol[3] - Eccent HS Trajec[4] - Datamined Wake Excep[5]
Distorted Shld Cycle Rec[1] - Inconsistent Shld Soak [2] - Untypical Shld Scan[3] - Aberrant Shld Patt [4] - Peculiar Shld Freq Data[5]
Unusual Enc Files[1] - Tagged Encry Codes[2] - Open Sym Keys[3] - Atypical Enc Arch[4] - Adaptive Enc Capt[5]
Anom Bulk Scan Data[1] - Unident Scan Arch[2] - Clas Scan Dbank[3] - Div Scan Data[4] - Clas Scan Fragment [5]
Spec Legacy Fware[1] - Mod Cons Fware[2] - Cracked Ind Fware[3] - Sec Fware Patch [4] - Mod Embedded Fware[5]

The planets are all fairly near Sol, all a sensible distance from the star, all have decent terrain and all have somewhere near the best yield of each mat' anywhere in the bubble, the HGE info' tells you where to find various G5 mat's (assuming that's still correct) and the mat' trader info' tells you whether you can get something else and then trade it for what you actually want.

Keep meaning to update it with all the stuff that's available from places like the crashed Annie's, Dav's Hope and similar sites but, y'know... :eek:
 

Krash

Krash
Stealthie said:
I was tripping over Arsenic on Wolf 587 4ea last night.
Shame I was looking for Selenium at the time. [where is it]

FWIW, here's a little text-file which I find useful for all my casual mat-gathering activities.

------------------
Material Locations
------------------
Antimony: Mufrid A1a
Arsenic: Masszony 1aa
Cadmium: Tiris 1c
Carbon: Ross 210 AB1ca
Chromium: Edanditis 1
Germanium: Zavijah 8ca
Iron: Iah Lanitei C1
Manganese: Mizar D1
Mercury: Lalande 10797 C1
Molybdenum: Tiris 1c
Nickel: Tiris 1c
Niobium: Mortel A1
Phosphorus: Ross 210 AB1ca
Polonium: Tiris 1c
Ruthenium: Mortel A1
Selenium: Wolf 587 4ea
Sulphur: Ross 210 AB1ca
Technetium: Iah Lanitei C1
Tellurium: Shibboleth 2ha
Tin: Iah Lanitei C1
Tungsten: Iah Lanitei C1
Vanadium: Iah Lanitei C1
Yttrium: Epsilon Ceti A1
Zinc: Epsilon Ceti A1
Zirconium: Iah Lanitei C1


-------------------------------
G5 grinding from signal sources
-------------------------------
Pharma isolators: uss high grade in outbreak state system.
Core dynamics: uss high grade in federal system in boom state.
Imperial shielding:uss high grade in imperial system.
Improvised components: uss high grade. state civil unrest. ( not civil war )
Military grade alloys: uss high grade. state in civil war or war.
Military supercap: uss high grade. State war or civil war.
Proto heat radiators: high grade uss. Boom state.
Proto radiolic alloys: high grade uss. Boom state.


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Mat Groups
----------
Raw.
Carbon[1] - Vanadium[2] - Nobium[3] - Ytrium[4]
Phosphorus[1] - Chromium[2] - Molybdenum[3] - Technetium[4]
Sulphur[1] - Manganese[2] - Cadmium[3] - Ruthenium[4]
Iron[1] - Zinc[2] - Tin[3] - Selenium[4]
Nickel[1] - Germanium[2] - Tungsten[3] - Tellurium[4]
Rhenium[1] - Arsenic[2] - Mercury[3] - Polonium[5]
Lead[1] - Zirconium[4] - Boron[1] - Antimony[5]


Manufactured.
Chem Stg Unit[1] - Chem Prcr[2] - Chem Dstl[3] - Chem Mnp[4] - Pharma Isol[5]
Temp Alloy[1] Heat Res Ceram[2] - Precip Alloy[3] - Thermic Alloy[4] - Mil Grade Alloy[5]
Heat Cond Wiring[1] - Heat Disp Plate[2] - Heat Exchanger[3] - Heat Vanes[4] - Proto Heat Rad[5]
Basic Cond[1] - Cond Comp[2] - Cond Ceram[3] - Cond Poly[4] - Biotech Cond[5]
Mech Scrap [1] - Mech Equip[2] - Mech Comp[3] - Conf Comp[4] - Improv Comp[5]
Grid Rstr[1] - Hybrid Cap[2] - Elec Chem Array[3] - Polymer Cap[4] - Mil SuperCap[5]
Worn Shld Emtr[1] - Shld Emtr[2] - Shld Sensor[3] - Compound Shld[4] - Imp Shld[5]
Compact Comp[1] - Filament Comp[2] - HD Comp[3] - Prop Comp[4] - CD Comp[5]
Crystal Shard[1] - Flawed F Crystal [2] - F Crystal[3] - Ref F Crystal[4] - Exq F Crystal[5]
Slvgd Alloy[1] - Galv Alloy[2] - Phase Alloy[3] - Proto L Alloy[4] - Proto R Alloy[5]


Encoded.
Excep Scrmbld Em Data[1] - Irreg Em Data[2] - Unexp Em Data[3] - Decoded Em Data[4] - Abnrml Compact Em Data[5]
Atyp Disr Wake Echo[1] - Anom FSD Telemetry[2] - Strng Wake Sol[3] - Eccent HS Trajec[4] - Datamined Wake Excep[5]
Distorted Shld Cycle Rec[1] - Inconsistent Shld Soak [2] - Untypical Shld Scan[3] - Aberrant Shld Patt [4] - Peculiar Shld Freq Data[5]
Unusual Enc Files[1] - Tagged Encry Codes[2] - Open Sym Keys[3] - Atypical Enc Arch[4] - Adaptive Enc Capt[5]
Anom Bulk Scan Data[1] - Unident Scan Arch[2] - Clas Scan Dbank[3] - Div Scan Data[4] - Clas Scan Fragment [5]
Spec Legacy Fware[1] - Mod Cons Fware[2] - Cracked Ind Fware[3] - Sec Fware Patch [4] - Mod Embedded Fware[5]

The planets are all fairly near Sol, all a sensible distance from the star, all have decent terrain and all have somewhere near the best yield of each mat' anywhere in the bubble, the HGE info' tells you where to find various G5 mat's (assuming that's still correct) and the mat' trader info' tells you whether you can get something else and then trade it for what you actually want.

Keep meaning to update it with all the stuff that's available from places like the crashed Annie's, Dav's Hope and similar sites but, y'know... :eek:
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The best source for encoded data is Jameson's crashed cobra. Fill up on AECs and then trade.
 
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