Where is everyone?

Snakebite · Dec 30, 2014

GibMeister said:
Well you know why that is? I have lost my ship 5 times now in Solo play, how long do you think I will last in Open play? the game is too harsh for Open play, I could be killed instantly by a couple guys playing together just out for kicks

That is just not happening... Most people seem to be playing in the spirit of the Game, and besides there are means to nerf the greifers that can easily be implemented.

and thats my insurance gone again and all my unclaimed bounties the lot.

It would be sensible to cash in your bounties at each starport, and keep sufficient cash for your insurance cover...

I get killed all the time in BF4 but I dont have to shell out 75K every time I die!

This is not BF4, this is Elite 4

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I think some people think all the backers who have had a big head start on us are sat in Anacondas waiting to nail all the noobs!

Nope, I see no evidence of this whatsoever....
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But having said that, the main reason i dont play Open is because docking is okay in Solo but in open i hear the docks are busy with queues.....and I can imagine all the bumping around etc, the docks are a bit small to be honest....

I have played constantly for three weeks and since gamma have NEVER had this problem, not once...

There you go, all your reasons for staying in Bubble wrap mode are based on dissinformation, please come join us in the open universe its so much more fun, and if you DO get Greifed, then just befriend your friendly neighbourhood bounty killer and i'll come help you out.....

Really there are so many reasons to join the open game... And its not even that Dangerous....

Batavier · Dec 30, 2014

Ulysses_W said:
@Korenwolf

You know, I think we should start a 'Wolf Pack' group. There seems to be enough of us to make it a formidable group.

Except that a 'Korenwolf' is not a real wolf. But perhaps it's related to the Rabbit of Caerbannog...

This is a Korenwolf:

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Continium · Dec 30, 2014

Cmdr Fremen said:
Don't be afraid of Open play, it's not a gankfest. As you can see, probably you won't event bump into another player. I never had to wait for docks to let me in. Awesome signature you have, by the way.

Maybe I have just had bad luck but I have had ALOT of interdictions in multiplayer when attempting to explore (unarmed no cargo, no bounty). It seriously makes me wonder what benefit/enjoyment the people doing it are getting.... do you get ANYTHING at all from killing a ship with no cargo or bounty? you dont even get a 'scrap' out of it as I have no weapons.

Perhaps it is just bad luck. Like I said in an earlier post, Ill be playing multiplayer once I have earnt enough cash to equip a ship that can deal with PvP (I LIKE pvp, I played the original MUD/MUD2 which had permanent death, plus Ultima online (prior to split) which had open PVP.

As it stands I am forced to be a 'care bear' until I can stand up for myself and have any chance in a fight, thats why I have to use solo play at the moment.

burzum · Dec 30, 2014

dlocke said:
If you have quit the game pleae stop posting in the forums, as you have no knowledge of current game play since you have quit. If you have not quit then please feel free to do so if the game is that boring to you. Some of us enjoy the game quite a lot.

Some don't, many threads clearly show that. And do you want to deny my right of free speech? Also I've asked to get my account removed which was denied as well and is against EU law.

Marasmusine · Dec 30, 2014

To answer the question, I'm at the absolute ar.se-end of civilized space, Skil'slandi. There's an outpost here called Plait Hub. I wonder if it's named after the astronomer Phil Plait?

Marasmusine · Dec 30, 2014

burzum said:
And do you want to deny my right of free speech?

No-one is trying to deny you your rights to free speech. We're just asking you to go away and do it somewhere else.

Cmdr Fremen · Dec 30, 2014

Batavier said:
Except that a 'Korenwolf' is not a real wolf. But perhaps it's related to the Rabbit of Caerbannog...

This is a Korenwolf:

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Seems bloodthristy enought for me.

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Continium said:
Maybe I have just had bad luck but I have had ALOT of interdictions in multiplayer when attempting to explore (unarmed no cargo, no bounty). It seriously makes me wonder what benefit/enjoyment the people doing it are getting.... do you get ANYTHING at all from killing a ship with no cargo or bounty? you dont even get a 'scrap' out of it as I have no weapons.

Perhaps it is just bad luck. Like I said in an earlier post, Ill be playing multiplayer once I have earnt enough cash to equip a ship that can deal with PvP (I LIKE pvp, I played the original MUD/MUD2 which had permanent death, plus Ultima online (prior to split) which had open PVP.

As it stands I am forced to be a 'care bear' until I can stand up for myself and have any chance in a fight, thats why I have to use solo play at the moment.

Do the combat tutorials. They helped me a lot, I've been playing them for 2 weeks before Beta 1. Then look for combat zones in the game, but avoid players. Then start fighting with smaller players, they can surprise you. Then start fighting with ships in your own league...

mic · Dec 30, 2014

Snakebite said:
and if you DO get Greifed, then just befriend your friendly neighbourhood bounty killer and i'll come help you out.....

You keep saying that, but how is that stopping my hypothetical hauler from being interdicted in every bloody system by shouting crazies? And if you are hired to "deal" with a particularly annoying individual, it doesn't really stop his/her actions in the long run. Sure, you'll probably explode her, but she'll be back in space in 15 seconds.

Sorry, but bounty hunting as the great "anti griefer tool" is not the answer.

CmdrPSB · Dec 30, 2014

Seen plenty of commanders in open play, mostly around Kappa Fornacis and Lave/Leesti/Diso/Zaonce (guess how I've been making money

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Snakebite · Dec 30, 2014

mic said:
You keep saying that, but how is that stopping my hypothetical hauler from being interdicted in every bloody system by shouting crazies?

shouting crazies ?

And if you are hired to "deal" with a particularly annoying individual, it doesn't really stop his/her actions in the long run. Sure, you'll probably explode her, but she'll be back in space in 15 seconds.

Sorry, but bounty hunting as the great "anti griefer tool" is not the answer.

I'd say that bounty hunters (Human and AI) along with security forces and police really should have little trouble keeping them at bay, lets not forget one very important thing about Greifing......

Greifing makes no profit.... There are no credits to be made in randomly killing clean players.

Now, lets suppose that killing an innocent gets you a wanted status.... with a big fat bounty on your head. So that all manner of do-gooders come after you.
And... Lets say that entering a station gets you arrested.....and your ship confiscated....

How long do you think any Greifers would last in this game..... ?

mic · Dec 30, 2014

Snakebite said:
shouting crazies ?

Yeah. I presume they were kids left without adult supervision, shouting obscenities while blowing me up in my hauler. Made me quit oven for quite a while. I still trade and scout new routes in private. It is only the Viper I fly in open

Snakebite said:
I'd say that bounty hunters (Human and AI) along with security forces and police really should have little trouble keeping them at bay, lets not forget one very important thing about Greifing......

Greifing makes no profit.... There are no credits to be made in randomly killing clean players.

Now, lets suppose that killing an innocent gets you a wanted status.... with a big fat bounty on your head. So that all manner of do-gooders come after you.
And... Lets say that entering a station gets you arrested.....and your ship confiscated....

How long do you think any Greifers would last in this game..... ?

If killing non-wanted entities, AI or Human, not long obviously. But it is not that hard to earn a couplle of million to blow on fines and eventual insurance.

My point is, with the current implementation, it is not possible to hire effektive protection. Even if I'd pay you to 'kill' CMDR <X>, he'd still be back harrasing me in 10 minutes time, no matter your skill level or the percieved security of the system I'm in.