Where is Odyssey headed and why is not okay to ask that question?

Lord Hexias

Lord Hexias
FDEV and fellow Commanders,

With the lack of a roadmap and any other information covering the future of this expansion and Elite in general, I'm wondering what's next and why we are experiencing such radio silence on the matter. Have I missed something or is information available out there that can help me get an answer for this?

I know about the general statements concerning story updates and the like but that really is quite vague, isn't it? So, what is coming and how do we know?

EDIT: This thread has blown up! Seems a lot of people feel the same as my about the relative lack of info from Frontier whereas others are still comfortable waiting out this dead period. Both viewpoints are valid and this is a good conversation to have. Skip to this post right here to catch up on where the debate has gone since I made this thread.
 
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babelfisch

babelfisch
Nobody knows. It's what FDEV have always done, we just learned about Horizons 6 months before release.

It could be that the game is over tomorrow. Or that they announce the next big expansion.

Personally I guess we'll see some smaller content and story updates over the next year, followed by a slightly bigger update. Probably cockpit cats.
 

Felix DiCestria

Felix DiCestria
The mood is rather raw following the console announcement. We also have much the same "maintenance mode" speculation we had after the release of fleet carriers.
As such there's a lot of rather polarized viewpoints and the moderation can appear somewhat heavy handed.
The dropping of consoles has probably given rise to internal discussion on future strategy. They aren't constrained by console capabilities any more so might try something more ambitious. Though that might leave the potato crew stuck with EDH.
 

Muzz UK

Muzz UK
I haven't been a big advocate of negativity or Obsidian Ant's latest low morale videos but I have to say even I'm starting to question the future of Elite Dangerous. I don't think the games going to close down next week and I hope it doesn't... I think we're entering a phase where updates and content will continue to arrive at a slower pace instead of weekly or monthly updates something big every 3-4 months. I've put hell of a lot of hours into all of the Elite games especially Elite Dangerous in a life time. Now I think the biggest issue is that David Braben and the Frontier SLT probably under estimated the amount of time and resource needed to develop Elite back when it was just a kickstarer. Star Citizen's got 100x the money Elite's had and still years away from release.

This game is massive and in terms of tech and achievement to create a whole universe is pretty special given the underpinning science, logic and rules behind the generation.

The amount of technical issues they must face is why I think Frontier have hazy comms at best. They don't want to roadmap and promise features that won't arrive in time it makes them look bad. Sure they're might be internal struggles and broken relations but you go into most businesses you'll find difference of opinion. If this is true and effecting the game then changes must be made! As for announcing upcoming features just look at the Odyssey delays, Fleet Carrier launch push back, and the other times we've been told to wait. You can fully support and salut the devs and community managers for wanting to release a working polished product people like Arf and Sally are clearly passionate.

They've just announced they are not dedicating resource to fixing certain issues (planet graphics) yet as other things take priority. I'm not sure I support the "We're" Doomed" threads as we've seen those since 2014 but I don't think we'll ever see a massive uptake in the amount of development time or resource for Elite. That's fine! If you game keeps going and only gets two or three massive updates a year and bug fixes so be it.

To summarise if you cannot be bothered to read above I think Elite Dangerous is not as easy or as simple as originally thought to make as a game, and its better to be silent than to be vocal and constantly deliver late, this game clearly has technical limitations and to deliver as we fans want would take a lot more money and far more people. Consoles being dropped is clearly a finance decision that the time to fix, develop and port Odyssey wouldn't be profitable enough due to much smaller player base.
 

TheMindBuddah

TheMindBuddah
Because Elite has become a tower of Jenga. F-Devs code base seems such a mess that with Odysseys first anniversary quickly approaching. We still have with issues with optimizing, and each "fix", breaking completely unrelated parts of the game.

So it's better to stay silent, and not promise things they can not deliver. Hozions like performance with the small step in graphics fidelity, is such an issue.

It's a shame to see the game in such a state. Honestly and inclusion of the community in the games future and direction, is what we all really need right now.
 
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Dillon Fallon

Dillon Fallon
I've seen the argument that it's better to surprise people with new stuff than to give players detailed information on what and when updates to the game are coming and hearing this all the time:
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Rat Catcher

Rat Catcher
Frontier still apparently believe that we will remain excited about "exciting things to come, but we can't tell you what" rather than completely disinterested. I do understand developers preferring to not mention what is in the pipeline for games, as even a "We'd like to..." is interpreted by 'gamers' as a cast-iron promise that it would appear tomorrow...

NMS brought out another add-on last week, it was announced when the update was already available, yet HG gets praise for this... Odd how Frontier doesn't!

TheMindBuddah said:
inclusion of the community in the games future and direction, is what we all really need right now
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Why? So that 'the community' (a stupid term as there is no single mindset among 'the community'!) can whine with renewed vigour?
No matter what Frontier said, there would be dissent among the ranks here... The 'angry ex-boyfriends', the disillusioned, even those who will pass judgement on an expansion despite never playing it, all because a youtuber told them it was awful, all, along with those who just play a game, will hold Frontier to task over 'something', even if it has not been discussed. (me remembering the 'upset few' who insisted EDO was bringing ship interiors (despite them not bing mentioned as part of the expansion), and were astonished it didn't!)

Edit: missing "week" & typo!
 
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Thatchinho

Thatchinho
TheMindBuddah said:
inclusion of the community in the games future and direction, is what we all really need right now.
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I’m not sure FD being told to head in every (often mutually exclusive) direction at the same time, and to get to those destinations NOW, is necessarily going to help matters.

(Don’t get me wrong here, I like what you’re saying in an idealistic sense, but I think that in reality it wouldn’t work at all, and would quite possibly just make things worse.)
 
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