Newcomer / Intro Where to?

I left the starter area on accident. No biggie, I have a ship and 500k.
But now I haven't played in 4 days because I have no idea what to do or where to go. Clearly my visions of flying around pvping are folly. So everyone just flies around scanning empty systems or mines? And that's it?
I can't go far without upgrades. I can't get upgrades without a station to fly out of. I can't find a station to fly out of without knowing the game/map. I can't know the game map without leaving the area...Are there stations to land at? Flying into the abyss without knowing what's going on seems like Im just setting myself up for failure. So far I really hate this game (can you call it a game if there's nothing to do?)
 
Welcome to the Elite Galaxy commander!

PvP is an activity not many commanders engage in. A handful of systems are known as PvP hotspots, see the Inara Security Report.
However, if you want to PvP you'll need to upgrade and engineer your ship a fair bit. For that you need to gather credits, materials and gain reputation with Factions and Engineers. It'll take (quite) some time but it's the journey not the destination that counts in this game ;). Below you'll find some helpful links to start with.

--edit: There is this: Fighter Club, the fighting club for every skill level. The most recent post I linked here is from Jun 24, 2021. Not that active anymore it seems but maybe people over there can help you get into PvP in Elite.

Maybe you've already found most of the resources listed below. If not, have a look at them and in any case don't hesitate to ask questions here in the forum.

In-game help is available in the form of menu links to the Pilot's Handbook and the Codex (right-hand cockpit panel 1st tab).
For a very good beginner's guide see: An in-depth beginner’s guide to Elite: Dangerous.
Tutorials covering all aspects of the game, many of them in the form of YouTube videos, are available from ED Tutorials.
There is a wealth of useful information available in these forums spread out over hundreds of threads. Thanks to commander @Alec Turner you can access all of that information and more via a single thread: Alec's best of the forum (and elsewhere) [v2].
Here is a good guide on the background simulation (BGS) that simulates the economical and political changes caused by player actions in inhabited systems.
Also check out the inara.cz and eddb.io websites with (almost) realtime info on practically everything in the game.
The coriolis.io and edsy.org websites let you design your ships before buying them.
There are many more Tools and Websites created by fans that make life in the galaxy better.
And last but not least, the Elite Dangerous Wiki contains extensive information on nearly all aspects of the game.

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I left the starter area on accident. No biggie, I have a ship and 500k.
But now I haven't played in 4 days because I have no idea what to do or where to go. Clearly my visions of flying around pvping are folly. So everyone just flies around scanning empty systems or mines? And that's it?
I can't go far without upgrades. I can't get upgrades without a station to fly out of. I can't find a station to fly out of without knowing the game/map. I can't know the game map without leaving the area...Are there stations to land at? Flying into the abyss without knowing what's going on seems like Im just setting myself up for failure. So far I really hate this game (can you call it a game if there's nothing to do?)
It’s an exploration game so maybe explore? Worst case scenario you die and start over with the stock sidewinder but by that sounds of it you already still have it so what have you got to lose? Very little. What have you got to gain? Lots!!
 

Thwarptide

Banned
I would suggest getting your feet a little more immersed by doing simple courier missions while you get a feel for that bubble. (Its big)
Theres plenty of professions out here. mining, trade, mercenary, pirating (arrrr) exploring.
$500k is pocket change, Build it up a bit more, and don’t rush to spend.
Theres a steep learning curve. Don’t rush the process.
Eventually you’ll settle into a a profession or two that floats your boat. I’ve tried em all and fit in very well with blowing things up while making excellent cash flow.
3 years later I have 5.8 billion in assets and 3.3 billion in credits. Plenty of cmdrs have way more. It just take patience, time and a sincere willingness to learn; and when you have questions, run here to the forums and ask. You’ll learn a lot from the veteran commanders!
 
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I would suggest getting your feet a little more immersed by doing simple courier missions while you get a feel for that bubble. (Its big)
Theres plenty of professions out here. mining, trade, mercenary, pirating (arrrr) exploring.
$500k is pocket change, Build it up a bit more, and don’t rush to spend.
Theres a steep learning curve. Don’t rush the process.
Eventually you’ll settle into a a profession or two that floats your boat. I’ve tried em all and fit in very well with blowing things up while making excellent cash flow.
3 years later I have 5.8 billion in assets and 3.3 billion in credits. Plenty of cmdrs have way more. It just take patience, time and a sincere willingness to learn; and when you have questions, run here to the forums and ask. You’ll learn a lot from the veteran commanders!
My point was just that I'm not penniless, so I could at least travel somewhere (close lol). I agree with what everyone has said and appreciate everything so far, I'm still lost as WHERE to start. :)
I'm 1 jump outside the starting area and literally have no idea where to go the game is frikkin' huuuuuuuge!! I tried fuel scooping once and it worked.
If a system on my map says it has a million people there, can I assume there are stations there? im going to need modules and stuff along the way, how do I do that, go back to the starting area? Im guessing not. If I fly waaaaaaaay out in a direction because I'm clueless and then in a month, after figuring things out a bit, decide I should have gone the other way is that correctable other than flying a month back? These are odd questions to internet search for.
I would totally just take off towards some fun looking stuff if I knew a bit more.
 
If you're near the starting systems almost all stars in that area have stations. If you let us know where you are, maybe someone could suggest a station to go for missions and modules and ships and things. There's always help here in the Newcomers forum so don't get frustrated and don't be afraid to ask questions.
 

Thwarptide

Banned
If a system on my map says it has a million people there, can I assume there are stations there?
Yes.
BTW, Welcome to the forums (better late than never)
As I said, start small, find a system with a big station or two, look for missions that are “courier missions.”
That way you at least have a temporary home and work while you’re getting a feel for the game.
BTW, you’re gonna die quite a few times. After awhile, you’ll learn how not to. 🤪
Also, learn to use Your discovery scanner real quick as you pass through systems. Eventually sell the data (contacts menu, system authority). Its like saving money you find on the street. Pays the fuel bill with a small Profit. It adds up.
Are you on a console or PC?
If you're near the starting systems almost all stars in that area have stations. If you let us know where you are, maybe someone could suggest a station to go for missions and modules and ships and things. There's always help here in the Newcomers forum so don't get frustrated and don't be afraid to ask questions.
What Cmdr Brewer said here is very sound advice.
 
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Great advice here about accepting missions, exploring, etc. PvP is mighty aspirational to mention at this sate, imo. You'll certainly get there if that's what you're after, but in the meantime:
take your time,
learn how the game works, how things happen, how potential foes (NPCs, security forces, etc.) behave, how to earn credits, how existence goes,
pick up all those goodies you'll find at USSs along your travels in the Bubble,
get to know how ships maneuver, react, etc (this is immensely useful),
learn how to dock reasonably reliably,
join a group if you'd like some company while learning,
try LOTS of things,
evade an interdiction attempt against you (great accomplishment),
don't fly without rebuy!
have fun!
ask questions here (as already suggested).

I can only attempt to answer your question about where to go next. This is a 3D galaxy, so the answer to this question - in part- depends on where you exited the starter zone. It depends upon range of your ship and your confidence in the Gal Map - whether you're reading it well enough to feel comfortable that it is telling you that you'll make it, among a couple of other details. Be conservative for a bit. When I was new, I accidentally lost access to the starter zone too because I was confused by symbols that didn't clearly (to me) show systems therein, exiting from the Sharur System and landing at a station in the Ambibates System.*

From there, my notes show that I traveled to the Ehecatl, HR 8061, Ay Indi, and Veroandi systems. In particular I made a note that says the trip from Veroandi to Ay Indi pushed my range limit. I would grab a unit or two of tea, perhaps biowaste, a courier mission here and there. This earned me some credits and the chance to travel and visit 'things' I encountered, learn my cockpit and ship's controls, and on, and on.

If you really want to taste combat with your currently woefully unprepared ship, you can go to a Low RES** with an empty cargo hold and try just to stay on the tails of other ships to learn maneuvers and flying. You can observe the activities there safely. Combat is a big topic so be very careful at this stage. You won't get attacked if you do only what I suggest in these three sentences. If you can resist the temptation to engage, you'll be safe against the NPCs*** there.

For now you should be able to choose the closest populated system and check out the station(s) there, see what is offered, and decide what to do in terms of missions, trading opportunities, or simply grabbing some repairs/fuel and moving on. You can simply go back and forth between two or three systems/stations for a little bit just to fly, pilot, succeed for a bit.

If you'd like more specific advice or a companion, ask here, look up a group for help, even ask for a sit-in on someone's ship to watch them for a touch. You'll get it in this game. It's pretty darn cool that way.

Happy travels!


* This is accurate or pretty close, as long as memory and notes serve me properly. EDIT: I peeked at the galaxy map and this appears to be accurate. :)
** A RES is a Resource Extraction Site. It's a region in a planet's rings where mining activities and piracy are common. These are rated in 4 levels of intensity/danger from Low to High and Hazardous. The designations are: Low RES, RES, High RES, and Haz RES.
*** NPC = non-playing character. These are the game-generated population of pilots & ships NOT REAL CMDRs! (an essential distinction, to put it mildly)
 
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My point was just that I'm not penniless, so I could at least travel somewhere (close lol). I agree with what everyone has said and appreciate everything so far, I'm still lost as WHERE to start. :)
I'm 1 jump outside the starting area and literally have no idea where to go the game is frikkin' huuuuuuuge!! I tried fuel scooping once and it worked.
If a system on my map says it has a million people there, can I assume there are stations there? im going to need modules and stuff along the way, how do I do that, go back to the starting area? Im guessing not. If I fly waaaaaaaay out in a direction because I'm clueless and then in a month, after figuring things out a bit, decide I should have gone the other way is that correctable other than flying a month back? These are odd questions to internet search for.
I would totally just take off towards some fun looking stuff if I knew a bit more.
If you haven’t docked at any station outside the starter area then I believe you will still have access to it.

The problem with PvP outside of agreed locations or hot spots is that there are (even in the minuscule fraction of the galaxy we have explored) hundreds of millions of places players could be and nowhere near that many online at any one time.
Actually it isn’t quite that bad as most players will be in or near the bubble, but even so there are more locations than people who are online at the same time you are.
 
If you haven’t docked at any station outside the starter area then I believe you will still have access to it.

The problem with PvP outside of agreed locations or hot spots is that there are (even in the minuscule fraction of the galaxy we have explored) hundreds of millions of places players could be and nowhere near that many online at any one time.
Actually it isn’t quite that bad as most players will be in or near the bubble, but even so there are more locations than people who are online at the same time you are.
I did a mission without realizing it was outside the safe zone and landed. My ignorance is what started all this and that's exactly why I'm asking questions now!
 
Actually, if you haven't yet docked at any station outside of the starter zone, why not try shooting at a ship (any ship you can find) and then wait to be killed, you will then 'respawn' in the last station docked at, which will be in the starter zone (you will keep your 500kCr).
You will then be given a choice of your current ship for a tiny cost or you can choose a free starter sidewinder.
Then see what is available in the station.
 
San Tu is a PvP hub for all levels, so maybe start to head over there and look out for info in the system chat.

Most of the systems around you will have stations - use the tools on the galmap to select for populated systems.

A good thing to do would be to find a high tech systems, choose a station to temporarily call home and run missions from it.

This will allow you to scope out the surrounding area and get a "feel" for what is about.

Good hunting.
 
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Where to go? Well, you have 400,000,000,000 stars to choose from 🤪 (and a slightly lower number of inhabited systems, IIRC that's only in the five figure range). But as long as you don't tell us where you are, we can't tell you where to go to.

What you can do? As others have said, mission running is not the worst idea, until you get a feeling for how the game works. The thing with missions is that the better your reputation with the mission giving faction is (and you get that reputation from running missions), the better the mission payout becomes. A couple of MCr. for a single pirate kill, base scan or moderate range tourist trip is entirely possible. On the other hand, anything that sounds too good to be tue probably is - especially if it's a mission to Alpha Centauri 😁.

What I would do, right now, is to check this thread and the "GALCAT" threads if you can find them - this year's Christmas presents from FD. Caches 4 to 6 should still be active until the 6th (according to that Galnet message), i.e. probably until the server shutdown on the 6th around 9 AM UTC. Visiting and scanning those three caches should get you
  • 30,000,000 Cr.
  • a free Vulture
  • two festive flak launchers (nearly no damage, but they look nice)
  • some sort of cosmetic for your CMDR that is only working in Odyssey, so I can't tell you what it is supposed to be

If you're still in the starter Sidewinder, I'd suggest you find youor nearest station that sells a Hauler and an A-rated frame shift drive (and a fuel scoop) - perhaps something like this. The Hauler is usually known as the starter ship with the best jump range.
If you have a lot of play time available in the next few days, you might try to route your trip to the Christmas cache sites via one of the "Road to Riches" (R2R) sites out there. These will calculate a route for you through systems where you can scan valuable planets - once you have the money, you can also add a surface scanner (DSS) to your ship and baf around one MCr. for a good find. I prefer the Spansh site, but there are a few others.

Edit: oh yes, PvP... In your current ship, unorganized PvP will last about as long as the other CMDR needs to deploy their hardpoints - if they decide to take you seriously at all. If you come from any of the big MMOs, you'll also find that finding other human players out there is difficult - a lot of systems to go to, and ED's (usually quite shaky) P2P instancing contribute to make encountering other players a rather rare event outside of known hotspots, like Community Goals (which we don't have right now, but the above mentioned Christmas Presents may serve as a substitute - so be careful if you approach them in Open game mode...)
 
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Where to go? Well, you have 400,000,000,000 stars to choose from 🤪 (and a slightly lower number of inhabited systems, IIRC that's only in the five figure range). But as long as you don't tell us where you are, we can't tell you where to go to.

What you can do? As others have said, mission running is not the worst idea, until you get a feeling for how the game works. The thing with missions is that the better your reputation with the mission giving faction is (and you get that reputation from running missions), the better the mission payout becomes. A couple of MCr. for a single pirate kill, base scan or moderate range tourist trip is entirely possible. On the other hand, anything that sounds too good to be tue probably is - especially if it's a mission to Alpha Centauri 😁.

What I would do, right now, is to check this thread and the "GALCAT" threads if you can find them - this year's Christmas presents from FD. Caches 4 to 6 should still be active until the 6th (according to that Galnet message), i.e. probably until the server shutdown on the 6th around 9 AM UTC. Visiting and scanning those three caches should get you
  • 30,000,000 Cr.
  • a free Vulture
  • two festive flak launchers (nearly no damage, but they look nice)
  • some sort of cosmetic for your CMDR that is only working in Odyssey, so I can't tell you what it is supposed to be

If you're still in the starter Sidewinder, I'd suggest you find youor nearest station that sells a Hauler and an A-rated frame shift drive (and a fuel scoop) - perhaps something like this. The Hauler is usually known as the starter ship with the best jump range.
If you have a lot of play time available in the next few days, you might try to route your trip to the Christmas cache sites via one of the "Road to Riches" (R2R) sites out there. These will calculate a route for you through systems where you can scan valuable planets - once you have the money, you can also add a surface scanner (DSS) to your ship and baf around one MCr. for a good find. I prefer the Spansh site, but there are a few others.

Edit: oh yes, PvP... In your current ship, unorganized PvP will last about as long as the other CMDR needs to deploy their hardpoints - if they decide to take you seriously at all. If you come from any of the big MMOs, you'll also find that finding other human players out there is difficult - a lot of systems to go to, and ED's (usually quite shaky) P2P instancing contribute to make encountering other players a rather rare event outside of known hotspots, like Community Goals (which we don't have right now, but the above mentioned Christmas Presents may serve as a substitute - so be careful if you approach them in Open game mode...)
I was going to start with Road to Riches but I need some upgrades and am dealing with that first. Was trying to get some last night but was struggling with just finding a place that sold them. :D Ah well today's a new day.
I jumped a couple systems over and there were fleet carriers I couldn't land on and then I jumped into something that blew me up. First time for that, it was funny how mnay alarms were going off in my ship. I had a laugh :)
 

Thwarptide

Banned
I was going to start with Road to Riches but I need some upgrades and am dealing with that first. Was trying to get some last night but was struggling with just finding a place that sold them. :D Ah well today's a new day.
I jumped a couple systems over and there were fleet carriers I couldn't land on and then I jumped into something that blew me up. First time for that, it was funny how mnay alarms were going off in my ship. I had a laugh :)
Heres an extremely valuable tool to help you find everything you can ever need without having to spend hours jumping around looking for it.

Sounds like you jumped near a white dwarf. Nasty pretty things, keep your distance or its a big kaboom!
What kind of ship are you flying?
 
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Heres an extremely valuable tool to help you find everything you can ever need without having to spend hours jumping around looking for it.

Sounds like you jumped near a white dwarf. Nasty pretty things, keep your distance or its a big kaboom!
What kind of ship are you flying?
Just internet searched White Dwarf Elite Dangerous and it's confirmed. It was a white dwarf. lol
My almost stock Cobra Mark III was no match for the mighty white dwarf. By almost stock I mean it has added storage and that's it :)
 

Thwarptide

Banned
Just internet searched White Dwarf Elite Dangerous and it's confirmed. It was a white dwarf. lol
My almost stock Cobra Mark III was no match for the mighty white dwarf. By almost stock I mean it has added storage and that's it :)
You can use white dwarfs for long range jumps, but its risky. I’ve never had the need to so I haven’t done it. Those jets can rip a ship to shreds as you just learned. But there’s videos out there that show how its done.
 
I had so much fun when I finally ditched my Sidewinder for a Cobra MkIII.* It's a very fun ship. I never even engineered it before I got my next one. I keep telling myself to do that and turn it into something even more fun - the pirate pesterer or something. :)

The suggestion from @Ashnak to go to the holiday give-away sites is an excellent one. I know that when I started out, earning 30M cr (even 10Mcr) at once would have blown my mind.** You'd learn a lot about this game too, including how to land on planets - wow, cool!
Yes, if you go, you can certainly choose to go in SOLO mode. No one (worth listening to, imo) is going to judge how you play.

You can probably do these without getting the surface vehicle. I believe that you should easily be able to get your ship close enough to those wreckages to scan them with the datalink scanner that is already included on your Cobra. Other CMDRs here can verify this. It's something like 200meters or so - piece of cake! (Don't forget to assign the datalink scanner to a fire group and to deploy hardpoints to use it).

Different star types have differently-sized exclusion zones. Keep your distance. :) Having fun is the best!


* not to say that the Sidewinder wasn't fun.
** Wait! The 2nd three give-aways includes one that's far more credits - OMG!

Contien System on Body 1A (gravity is just 0.11G)
Epsilon Indi, on the most-crazy-fun-to-land-on planet anywhere - Mitterand Hollow!
Dvorsi System, Body A12C. This system is likely to be the biggest challenge by far because it's probably >100LY away from where you're likely to be right now.

Check the thread found referenced in @Ashnak's post above to get all the details or ask us for help.
EDIT: The second batch (the later-released three of six that are still active until Jan 06) shown in this post:
 
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