The only reason I did pay the extra cost for the deluxe edition was access to beta and 3 animals but more toward the beta access. It great game, but agree bugs are still there and some game breaking.
Where's the Family tree?
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I just don't get how the same people are getting the same bug as the beta but I don't have them ?? Maybe you should try to go back to the tutoriel or try a different way of doing it? All my animals have acess to food and breed well. (All my work zone are assigned and are not far from my exhibit). Once you start to understand more how the game system work you can start building around it.
Bug fixes, little things here and there i'd be fine with. Leaving entire core mechanics out I'm not. Without the ability to see the family tree, breeding - a large part of the game - is basically pointless.
That quote doesn't say anything about the game having a window that shows a family tree chart. I'm not defending them here but if that is what people are going on by "They said we would have family trees" then that further cements my original point. That quote simply says genetics and family lineage is important not that they will physically have a UI window that exposes that information.
Yes because if you aren't getting bugs then clearly everyone else is holding it wrong.
I am just saying that ''you'' are not the voice of everyone either myself. I am seeing a lot of fixes from the beta and I appreciate them. We can focus on good thing or chose to focus on only negative thing.
I'm really hoping for family trees, too. However, there is already an improvement because if you click on an animal and then check out breeding partners it WILL tell you that you are inbreeding if you pair X and Y and there won't be the red inbreeding warning if they are unrelated. Seeing that the beta had only the all red fertility and/or immunity possibility as a clue that this might not be a desirable breeding pair, it's already a step forward, but yes, I do hope it doesn't stop there.
Which is fine... If they acknowledged it.
I think that's my problem with big game studios vs indie developers in today's market. Indie developers are very transparent about their game development. Look at Prehistoric Kingdom for example, every month they release an in-depth 'graph' showing every major system in the game and the progress made on them. Or any other game where they show you their timeline of the project and when to expect things.
Obviously I don't /expect/ or require game developers to be that transparent, that's their choice.
But... That's also why I put more faith into indie developers over triple A companies now. In this case, it really would have been easy for Frontier to simply acknowledge "unfortunately we weren't able to get 'x' features out for the full release but we intend to patch them into the game, and here's a very rough estimate of when that might happen".
That shows to players that they know where they had to cut features for release but that they still intend to put them in, and that would save a lot of trouble from having threads like this where people are upset a feature was not implemented but getting no acknowledgement from the developer on whether it's intended to be that way or just wasn't implemented yet.
I trust frontier which is why I'm still here but, y'know, a little more transparency would be welcome.
My comment was NOT out of line. The DDE included early beta access which included extensive bug testing. During that time, a lot of people were very active on the forums and provided very detailed feedback and examples. Which most of us were happy to do so.
Want to know what is out of line? A gaming company that fails to provide core mechanics on launch that they stated would be on launch. A company that has failed in their mission of communicating effectively. A gaming company that KNOWS the game will have bugs (because EVERY game has bugs, I mean look at Skyrim - 10 years old and it still is buggy) and didnt release a bug fix today.
The devs fail to take into consideration that unlike a coaster park which just has machines to look after, in a zoo sim a keeper taking 3 months to travel from a keeper hut to an enclosure and then saying ":BuT wE cHaNgEd BrEeDiNg" as if that fixed the core issue.
During beta, I experienced a couple crashes, no big deal. However, throughout my playtime yesterday? Several. This morning? I couldnt even load the game, and it sure isn't my spanking bran new computer.
No, my comment wasn't out of line. However, you attempting to dress me down in public was.
Joël
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I respect that you disagree with how Frontier deals with communication about development of their games, and I am sorry to hear that you are experiencing issues with the game. Still, stating that the devs took a 6 week vacation the past weeks when they didn't is insulting towards the devs in my humble opinion, which is I made my earlier comment in my position as volunteer moderator.
Let's leave it at that and keep this thread on topic of where's the family tree? . Thanks!
I guess I'll just repeat myself, but you CAN see that. It's just not as easily acessible as would be nice. But if you go on one animal and hit the last tab with the genetic information and then compare mates for that particular animal, you can choose a mate and if they are related it will tell you above the offspring in red that this is inbreeding. You can then set one of them up with contraception so you know that it is a sibling/child/parent of the animal you are just checking.
Again, it's complicated and it's a bit inconvenient, and it's nothing like having an actual family tree, but there is a way to tell, which is what they have promised.
Which pretty much sums up the entire UX in this game.