Hardware & Technical Which GTX 1080?

Globusdiablo

Globusdiablo
No need to upgrade from i5 to i7 in my opinion. I had an i7 and 980ti rig for a short time, but I'm getting better scores in Kombustor and Steam VR test with my i5 and 1080.

4 cores running at 3.5 should be just fine.

It's all about the GPU these days. :)
 

Thetele

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I went for MSI gtx 1080 gaming X. Stock nvidia gtx 1080 was 800€ in my country and i paid 810€ for my MSI card. (I always buy/order from local retailers if possible just to support local, but probably could have god better deal from somewhere else). I went for MSi gaming x because it was just 10€ more and many reviews claimed it had better fans and made less noise than basic gtx 1080. I didn't want to pay a lot more than i needed to pay but same time didn't want card to make a lot of noise. (my old MSI gtx 770 made a lot of noise and couldn't leave computer run over night and sleep well). I did increase fan profile little bit to make card run cooler while under 100% load because my air flow in case is really bad. The card is big like every gtx 1080 and take 2 slots (not sure if i could fit something into slot under it), bud should't cause problems in normal and bigger size computer cases but many may have if they have drive bays that aren't modular (I removed 1 of 3 drive bay blocks to make more room but the card would have fitted in with bays there). Of course you can measure it by yourself and check the size for card by googling. Gaming x has dvi port, 3 display ports and 1 HDMI. The card on default have on setting that will make fans not spin when not needed (low load like computer idle, surfing internet etc.) Card is overclocked by manufacturer and i don't feel like i could push it a lot by myself without replacing cooling stuff. I just edited fan profile and power limits.

I did some comparisons to other cards before purchases but differences between models didn't seem to be that big. So i went with the option that had overclock by manufacturer and claims on web that cooler/fans is good or atleast better than on base model that nvidia sell.

I have been happy with it. Elite run on 1920x1080 ultra with 2.0 ss always above 60 fps (well not always, as opening system/galaxy map and some other menus drops fps for couple seconds but this is problem with elite, not card as graphic settings don't effect fps drops on these situations (same drops even while on lowest settings)).

Rest of my system is I76700k, 16 gb (2x8) ddr4 2666MHz ram, game installed on ssd. Asus cards have good reputation of being less noisy and running cool. But i didn't feel like paying 40€-50€ more for their gtx 1080 card.

I have to say as disclaimer that i haven't used or seen any other gtx 1080 in use or heard any people that i trust 100% experiences with other gtx 1080s.

Just stuck with read couple reviews by googling different gtx 1080 cards. Most people only can have or have experience with just one card and can't really compare it to others. That said i am happy with main and it has worked just as advertised.
 

Globusdiablo

Globusdiablo
Btw. Your current cpu and mobo should easily OC to well above 4 Ghz.

It's as simple as entering bios and clicking optimal.

Check this read:

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/pcs/motherboards/1402708/asus-z97-e

"...However, using Asus' EZ Tuning Wizard, you can get some great overclocking results with very little effort. The UEFI BIOS is easy to use, and a simple yet effective overclock is just three or four clicks away. Simply tell the motherboard you're going to be doing media work or gaming, tell it what kind of heatsink you have and, based on that and the components you're using, it will apply an overclock it thinks will be stable. In our case, it overclocked our processor to 4.4GHz, making a marked difference to performance with no effort on our part and with no additional cooling required. In our benchmarking tests we saw a 16% boost in overall performance with a final score of 120 compared to 106 at stock settings and 108 at "Asus Optimal" settings, also in the BIOS..."
 
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Cmdr Sundog

Cmdr Sundog
There are so many manufacturers, that's why I gave a general recommendation. Narrow it down to one, max two brands and then continue. Differences in performance are imho minor. Major differences are: Price, Noise level, Support, Connectivity like 2 hdmi ports, OC, Colour, Leds, Software, etc...Did I miss sth. important? All personal choice. Enjoy the search...
 
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Alec Turner

Alec Turner
Thetele said:
I went for MSI gtx 1080 gaming X. Stock nvidia gtx 1080 was 800€ in my country and i paid 810€ for my MSI card. (I always buy/order from local retailers if possible just to support local, but probably could have god better deal from somewhere else). I went for MSi gaming x because it was just 10€ more and many reviews claimed it had better fans and made less noise than basic gtx 1080. I didn't want to pay a lot more than i needed to pay but same time didn't want card to make a lot of noise. (my old MSI gtx 770 made a lot of noise and couldn't leave computer run over night and sleep well). I did increase fan profile little bit to make card run cooler while under 100% load because my air flow in case is really bad. The card is big like every gtx 1080 and take 2 slots (not sure if i could fit something into slot under it), bud should't cause problems in normal and bigger size computer cases but many may have if they have drive bays that aren't modular (I removed 1 of 3 drive bay blocks to make more room but the card would have fitted in with bays there). Of course you can measure it by yourself and check the size for card by googling. Gaming x has dvi port, 3 display ports and 1 HDMI. The card on default have on setting that will make fans not spin when not needed (low load like computer idle, surfing internet etc.) Card is overclocked by manufacturer and i don't feel like i could push it a lot by myself without replacing cooling stuff. I just edited fan profile and power limits.

I did some comparisons to other cards before purchases but differences between models didn't seem to be that big. So i went with the option that had overclock by manufacturer and claims on web that cooler/fans is good or atleast better than on base model that nvidia sell.

I have been happy with it. Elite run on 1920x1080 ultra with 2.0 ss always above 60 fps (well not always, as opening system/galaxy map and some other menus drops fps for couple seconds but this is problem with elite, not card as graphic settings don't effect fps drops on these situations (same drops even while on lowest settings)).

Rest of my system is I76700k, 16 gb (2x8) ddr4 2666MHz ram, game installed on ssd. Asus cards have good reputation of being less noisy and running cool. But i didn't feel like paying 40€-50€ more for their gtx 1080 card.

I have to say as disclaimer that i haven't used or seen any other gtx 1080 in use or heard any people that i trust 100% experiences with other gtx 1080s.

Just stuck with read couple reviews by googling different gtx 1080 cards. Most people only can have or have experience with just one card and can't really compare it to others. That said i am happy with main and it has worked just as advertised.
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Thanks, the MSI gaming X was already on my shortlist. Nice to get another vote for that one tho.

Globusdiablo said:
I bought this beauty:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Strix-GeFo...id=1477999608&sr=8-1&keywords=asus+strix+1080

Review:

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/asus-rog-strix-geforce-gtx-1080-review.html

I initially wanted the MSI Twinfrozr version, but as I was buying a completely new rig, my local "dealer" told me that MSI have a terrible return policy, where they want a defective card sent for "repair", while Asus just ships a new card.

I'm very impressed with the Asus. Very quite. Very cool. Very fast. Rock solid performance.

I did a lot of reading on coil whine beforehand, and bottom line; all coils whine to some degree. How sensitive are you? I opted for the logical solution. A sturdy, well damped case. Fractal Design Define S.

My system runs VERY quite, and I don't notice any coil whine whatsoever. But I've seen people running with open cases, putting their ear to their hardware and complaining about coil whine...

I'm running from an i5 6600k, and it's no bottleneck running rock steady at 4.2 via standard bios OC.

Just my 2 credits on the subject. Asus Strix 1080 highly recommended.

Good hunting. :)
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And thanks again, that's definitely going on the list. One of the things about that card that actually appeals to me (despite the reviewer seeing it as a negative) is the inclusion of twin HDMI and DP ports. The thing is that I'm aware of this whole NVDIA issue re: full colour depth and the fact that some people claim you need to connect the Oculus via an adapter in order to turn this on. Can't do that with my current card (without unplugging my monitor and/or buying another adapter) so this card would certainly make life easier there.
 

Evoflash

Evoflash
Wasp0 said:
I have been running a EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW 8GB GDDR5X DVI-D HDMI 3x DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics Card since 28th August, run ED on Ultra everything (That has Ultra) and at a resolution of 3840x2160. Never missed a beat (Touching wood). Excellent card IMHO

BTW, i run the Corsair Temp program that come with my Processor Liquid Cooling stuff, and it shows my GC Temp has never ever run above 73 degrees at peak ED Run Times
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The temperature issue is usually the sort of thing found out in early life so looks like you're good to go.
 

Globusdiablo

Globusdiablo
Alec Turner said:
...One of the things about that card that actually appeals to me (despite the reviewer seeing it as a negative) is the inclusion of twin HDMI and DP ports. The thing is that I'm aware of this whole NVDIA issue re: full colour depth and the fact that some people claim you need to connect the Oculus via an adapter in order to turn this on. Can't do that with my current card (without unplugging my monitor and/or buying another adapter) so this card would certainly make life easier there.
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Indeed. The 2 hdmi's were a plus for me too. I'm running on our 46" tv, a 27" for when she wants the set (vga), and a spare hdmi for when I decide to splash on an HMD. :)

Edit: Sorry, I'm running my 27" through the second hdmi while waiting for an HMD to replace it. :) My bad.
 
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Ralph Vargr

Ralph Vargr
Alec Turner said:
So it looks like I'm in the market for a GTX 1080 and I'm finding myself somewhat overwhelmed by the choice available, not only in manufacturer, but in different models per manufacturer.

I guess my immediate concerns are:

  • price (I guess I'd rather not pay over £700)
  • coil whine (which I've heard can be a thing)
  • size (I'm not sure exactly how much space I have in the case, probably plenty, but I'd rather not end up with a card that occupies 2.5 lots and is so long it doesn't quite fit without taking a hacksaw to things)
  • CPU bottleneck (I don't know if this is a thing but, given I only have an i5 and wouldn't want to waste money on a 1080 if it turns out that, beyond a 1070, the CPU becomes the performance bottleneck).
  • ability to run ED in Oculus VR without having to worry too much about tweaking graphics settings (i.e. ideally I'd like to just shove everything up to Ultra and forget about it ... is the 1080 up to that?)
I'm curious to see if there's any sort of consensus on which one is best so fire away!

P.S. for a bit of extra background, here are some of my PC's vital statistics:

  • CPU: Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-4690K (3.5GHz) 6MB Cache
  • Motherboard: ASUS® Z97-E: ATX, USB3.0, SATA 6GB/S, SLi, XFIRE
  • Memory: 16GB HyperX FURY DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (2 x 8GB)
  • Power supply: CORSAIR 750W CS SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
  • Case: InWIN 503 MID TOWER GAMING CASE (WHITE)
  • Current graphics card: 4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 970 - DVI, HDMI, mDP - 3D Vision Ready
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All players must now conform to these *minimum* standards. $860.00, plus hacksaw to case. :)

Right, Frontier? That's what the playerbase has to have, now? :)
 

ChrisT

ChrisT
I have a PNY 980ti (hybrid, water-cooled). I went for hybrid, to keep noise down. I went for PNY to keep the price down. So far, its been a good card, its silent when not in heavy use, and reasonable when cranked.

in 4K, I can mostly get 60fps from ED. On planets, it can dip though to 45fps ish.

I also have cash available to buy a 1080, but... I just cant really justify it to myself. My current card is only a year-ish old. It cost £600, do I really want to pay £700 now, to get +15fps on planets?

Personally, id rather wait to see what happens with 1080ti models. After all, why not wait 2-3 months, and get more speed for similar price to now.

In terms of ED tech. What could actually happen to justify a 1080ti?

Well, we know that a 1080 alone, will do 4k in ALL ED engine areas at 60fps. So a 1080ti is overkill for that.

Will we see temporal anti-aliasing in ED soon? Probably not (PLEASE FRONTIER DO IT FOR END OF SEASON 2!).

OK, what about planetary landings, or space legs? Probably both a good year off as well. But if we do see either, then a 1080ti might come into play to keep fps at 60.

IMHO, the biggest grunt soak we could see in the near future is Temporal AA. It requires more processing and data store. But the result is amazingly good AA (which ED sorely needs) and it also opens up the door for other real-time effects that are normally movie domain, such as Ambient Occlusion, Reflection Occlusion, Bounce Lighting, etc.

But for now, I think waiting to see when the TI is launched would be prudent.
 

[DOOK] Droogie

[DOOK] Droogie
The 4690k will be more than fine. If you need more performance, overclock it. You bought a K cpu, afterall. An i7 won't give you much of a benefit.

As far brand, it doesn't matter much. The GPU is the same, and cooling is the only real difference. If you plan to overclock it, a custom pcb will be nice, too. Reference cards are identical.

Go with the best deal and warranty policy. The aftermarket cards all have comparable cooling. I personally also go by color, as my builds are usually color themed.
 

atomic7431

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i just bought a full water loop and this card - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/evga...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-30p-ea.html

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will be my first custom loop too :)
 
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JetsonRING

JetsonRING
Alec Turner said:
So it looks like I'm in the market for a GTX 1080 and I'm finding myself somewhat overwhelmed by the choice available, not only in manufacturer, but in different models per manufacturer.

I guess my immediate concerns are:

  • price (I guess I'd rather not pay over £700)
  • coil whine (which I've heard can be a thing)
  • size (I'm not sure exactly how much space I have in the case, probably plenty, but I'd rather not end up with a card that occupies 2.5 lots and is so long it doesn't quite fit without taking a hacksaw to things)
  • CPU bottleneck (I don't know if this is a thing but, given I only have an i5 and wouldn't want to waste money on a 1080 if it turns out that, beyond a 1070, the CPU becomes the performance bottleneck).
  • ability to run ED in Oculus VR without having to worry too much about tweaking graphics settings (i.e. ideally I'd like to just shove everything up to Ultra and forget about it ... is the 1080 up to that?)
I'm curious to see if there's any sort of consensus on which one is best so fire away!

P.S. for a bit of extra background, here are some of my PC's vital statistics:

  • CPU: Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-4690K (3.5GHz) 6MB Cache
  • Motherboard: ASUS® Z97-E: ATX, USB3.0, SATA 6GB/S, SLi, XFIRE
  • Memory: 16GB HyperX FURY DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (2 x 8GB)
  • Power supply: CORSAIR 750W CS SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
  • Case: InWIN 503 MID TOWER GAMING CASE (WHITE)
  • Current graphics card: 4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 970 - DVI, HDMI, mDP - 3D Vision Ready
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Just yesterday installed an EVGA GTX 1080 FTW 3.0 ACX GPU and I must say, after spending a couple of hours getting the hardware installed (screws, cables, etc.) it fired right up and running at 1920 x 1080 with everything set to "ultra" my 60 FPS (monitor limitation) is buttery smooth. Even the little hitch when entering witch-space is all but gone (the OC/Glide hang is still there :eek: but shorter, transitions (menu to menu) are faster too. One thing that surprised me was the fans on the GPU not turning. I was concerned enough that I called EVGA tech support, was told "it's normal" and they will spin when the GPU heats up. Wow, a GPU running cold enough the fans do not spin. [up] YEAH, baby! With graphics cranked up to "ultra" the visual experience is significantly richer, better textures, atmospheric effects, quicker transitions, etc. I am very happy so far. This is their nicest GPU that does not start getting into things like liquid-cooling/hybrid technology, etc., a straight-forward air-cooled GPU. Very much looking forward to a new 4K 120+ Hz monitor and eventually VR.

I chose this particular GPU based on about a dozen YouTube videos and various articles on the subject of which GTX 1080 GPU was the "best". I like your setup, good power supply, I would have gone for the i7 CPU, planning on a new Asus motherboard as well (the extended one) but used a Cooler Master Storm Trooper full-tower case ($149 at Wal-Mart!).
 
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