Which ships are better than the Vulture for pure combat ability?

[DocWatts]

Exactly what it says in the title, I haven't had the opportunity to fly the bigger ships so excuse my ignorance.

I'm genuinely curious because of how drastic of upgrade it was moving from my A rated Viper to even a modestly equipped Vulture, I'm just imagining how many tens of millions of credits it would be to experience something similar

 

[Darshendros the Eternal]

Fer-de-Lance, if you can put up with the cockpit. I am, so far, enjoying my Clipper. Not as maneuverable as a Vulture, but the extra firepower and bigger power plant really helps.

 

[snotface]

Exactly what it says in the title, I haven't had the opportunity to fly the bigger ships so excuse my ignorance.

I'm genuinely curious because of how drastic of upgrade it was moving from my A rated Viper to even a modestly equipped Vulture, I'm just imagining how many tens of millions of credits it would be to experience something similar

~NONE~

I can kill any ship thrown at me, and as proven in other posts even when pkers kill another pker in a vulture they still lost members of their wing to a solo vulture. Take my hat off to them for killing him, but just think if there was a better ship.

Hands down Vulture is pound for pound the best fighter in the game.

BTW I was a FDL fan, then FD brought out this effort of a ship and called it a FDL. The FDL flys like an Asp, handels like an Asp, but has better shield.

 

[Faded Glory]

Exactly what it says in the title, I haven't had the opportunity to fly the bigger ships so excuse my ignorance.

I'm genuinely curious because of how drastic of upgrade it was moving from my A rated Viper to even a modestly equipped Vulture, I'm just imagining how many tens of millions of credits it would be to experience something similar

Pretty sure there's nothing better. It's a great combat ship, so much fun to fly, and despite only having two hardpoints, very powerful indeed.

 

[Xodz]

Exactly what it says in the title, I haven't had the opportunity to fly the bigger ships so excuse my ignorance.

I'm genuinely curious because of how drastic of upgrade it was moving from my A rated Viper to even a modestly equipped Vulture, I'm just imagining how many tens of millions of credits it would be to experience something similar

Sadly the experience kind of stops at the Vulture. The switch to the FDL from the Vulture is kinda lackluster given the price.

You lose a ton of maneuverability and you don't gain much else other than max speed.

 

[The.Doover]

I think bang for buck the vulture can't be topped right now.

Fer de, python, and clipper all have their advantages, but are far more costly for in most cases relatively small combat gains.

I love the idea of using the asp like an iron clad vessel with a mountain of hull reinforcements, being a less maneuverable but better power planted and more defensive tank at a similar price, alas the build doesn't work since modules are left completely exposed!

 

[Xodz]

I think bang for buck the vulture can't be topped right now.

Fer de, python, and clipper all have their advantages, but are far more costly for in most cases relatively small combat gains.

I love the idea of using the asp like an iron clad vessel with a mountain of hull reinforcements, being a less maneuverable but better power planted and more defensive tank at a similar price, alas the build doesn't work since modules are left completely exposed!

Probably a good thing or all them multi-role ships, with all their internals, will be much better at combat than the combat ships. However, not really sure what the point is in the additional hull armor if it doesn't protect you better.

 

[deathmagnet]

I think bang for buck the vulture can't be topped right now.

Fer de, python, and clipper all have their advantages, but are far more costly for in most cases relatively small combat gains.

I love the idea of using the asp like an iron clad vessel with a mountain of hull reinforcements, being a less maneuverable but better power planted and more defensive tank at a similar price, alas the build doesn't work since modules are left completely exposed!

Prepare for the vulture to be nerfed or put back at the price it should be...20 mil credits. It is a great combat ship and everyone was complaining about the 20 mil price tag. FD nailed it on that price. Still a GREAT bargain for 20 mil. Too powerful at 5 mil.

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Probably a good thing or all them multi-role ships, with all their internals, will be much better at combat than the combat ships. However, not really sure what the point is in the additional hull armor if it doesn't protect you better.

It does protect you better. So long as your hull is being targeted. The modules seem to be just as vulnerable. I think they should include all the modules in the extra protection. Not just the hull.

 

[cowasaki]

I have four ships: Python for trading, Asp for exploration and two fighters. The FDL and Vulture are both superb fighters and it is hard to separate them as to which is best. The Vultures primary weapons are better than the FDL due to 2xsize3 hard points but the FDL has more flexibility with 4xsize2 and 1xsize4. Size2 beam lasers still pack a punch and you also have 2xmulti-canons (or something else) to switch to so that is better but at the moment the size4 hard point is problematical to say the least as it cannot aim at anything above nose level due to the nose. All in all the FDL is marginally better (for me) but the margin is small and that is ignoring the cost of the ship and insurance. If you take the cost into account the vulture takes it with under a million insurance which you could earn in less than an hour at a navpoint.

 

[Dym]

At this moment nothing comes close to the Vulture for combat. Phyton second couse of the mass of SCBs it can handle. I think FD made the price for the Vulture only 5 mil couse they will try to sell paintjobs in the near future. "more people have it, more people will buy the painjobs". It was worth the 20 mil.

 

[Darkmatter]

A Vulture with two gimballed large weapons can easily take down any ship in the game in a few seconds once the shields are down by targetting the power plant. Couple that with great shields and unparallelled mobility, and you have an almost overpowered fighter for a bargain price. I cannot see any practical reason to fly a ship other than a Vulture if you are going into combat.

 

[The.Doover]

I have four ships: Python for trading, Asp for exploration and two fighters. The FDL and Vulture are both superb fighters and it is hard to separate them as to which is best. The Vultures primary weapons are better than the FDL due to 2xsize3 hard points but the FDL has more flexibility with 4xsize2 and 1xsize4. Size2 beam lasers still pack a punch and you also have 2xmulti-canons (or something else) to switch to so that is better but at the moment the size4 hard point is problematical to say the least as it cannot aim at anything above nose level due to the nose. All in all the FDL is marginally better (for me) but the margin is small and that is ignoring the cost of the ship and insurance. If you take the cost into account the vulture takes it with under a million insurance which you could earn in less than an hour at a navpoint.

I love the idea of a full plasma fer de, best get saving my pocket money.

Imagine the shock and awe.

 

[obliterator]

That's the concept of diminishing return. The more credits you spend, the less bangs for your bucks. The vulture is definitely better for its price. But if you only look at the price/value ratio, then the viper is probably the best ship in the game: super cheap, fast as hell, agile, small target, and more than enough damage output to annoy bigger ships.

But in a fight between a FDL and a vulture, I'd put my money on the FDL. When you have more speed and firepower, you don't need maneuverability. You just boom&zoom and let your higher stats do all of the work.

 

[woodhouse]

A Vulture with two gimballed large weapons can easily take down any ship in the game in a few seconds once the shields are down by targetting the power plant. Couple that with great shields and unparallelled mobility, and you have an almost overpowered fighter for a bargain price. I cannot see any practical reason to fly a ship other than a Vulture if you are going into combat.

FSD range maybe? Unless you have Vultures parked in all corners of the Galaxy, it is not very convenient.

 

[Xodz]

That's the concept of diminishing return. The more credits you spend, the less bangs for your bucks. The vulture is definitely better for its price. But if you only look at the price/value ratio, then the viper is probably the best ship in the game: super cheap, fast as hell, agile, small target, and more than enough damage output to annoy bigger ships.

But in a fight between a FDL and a vulture, I'd put my money on the FDL. When you have more speed and firepower, you don't need maneuverability. You just boom&zoom and let your higher stats do all of the work.

Ya, FDL has the advantage over the Vulture, though the firepower advantage is not much. At the very least, even a bad FDL pilot can just run away with its 400 boost speed.

 

[Easy_Target]

~NONE~

I can kill any ship thrown at me, and as proven in other posts even when pkers kill another pker in a vulture they still lost members of their wing to a solo vulture. Take my hat off to them for killing him, but just think if there was a better ship.

Hands down Vulture is pound for pound the best fighter in the game.

BTW I was a FDL fan, then FD brought out this effort of a ship and called it a FDL. The FDL flys like an Asp, handels like an Asp, but has better shield.

I second Snotfaces motion
Vulture kitted right and flown right it is the cold hearted killer its supposed to be.
Just wish the price drop was not so extreme - should be 16M ish, to many folk have jumped into this vanilla and soon been feeding the insurance gods.

 

[Dym]

Ya, FDL has the advantage over the Vulture, though the firepower advantage is not much. At the very least, even a bad FDL pilot can just run away with its 400 boost speed.

i thought the OP asked for a pure combat ship, if someone wants to fly a runner buy a cobra. the fdl is a "pseudo bounty hunter" ship to rip off poor traders that cant fight back

 

[PotatoOverdose]

The vulture can't mass lock anything worthwhile, which makes it kinda crap for pvp. The vulture can't even masslock an asp, lol.

For shooting NPC's though, the vulture is second to none. So if all you care about is killing npc's, than there really isn't anything better than the vulture. If, on the other hand, you prefer to fight living opponents with an actual brain, I'd look into the Clipper or the FdL.

 

[cowasaki]

I love the idea of a full plasma fer de, best get saving my pocket money.

Imagine the shock and awe.

That is what I did straight away.... I saved up trading and earned 45M Cr in 3 days so that I had 90M Cr just to get the FDL with plasma. I went to the station and bought it and it was a huge let down! One shot will get a fully shielded hauler to 3% but that's not really relevant the point of the PA is big ships. I was fighting an anaconda and the damage was less than with 2x beams because the FDL can only fire the huge hard point at targets below it's nose height and then it is slow to fire and even slower to repeat. I changed to a class4 canon and had the same issues and so now I have a size 3 gimballed beam in there.

 

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