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Why are the BIG ships so small ?
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If you dont think an Anaconda is huge, you might think differently if one landed on top of your house
But yes, its a relative term. Big or small compared to what? Compared to a capital ship, a Conda isnt very big. But compared to an eagle it its freaking huge.
I hope everyone realizes that all the ships we currently fly are only fighters ?
Small fighters....Medium fighters....and Large fighters.
An Anaconda is basically a Corvette sized fighter.
Without Mail Slots or with External docking facilities we could maybe fly around in Cruisers....Heavy Cruisers.....Battleships and Carriers perhaps....
Not sure what an actual MOTHERSHIP (like in Homeworld) would look and feel like in the ED universe .... and of course I cannot wait to see an actual Thargoid Vessel ... wether it will classed as a Large Fighter of if it actually will come in Capital class sizes.
Small fighters....Medium fighters....and Large fighters.
An Anaconda is basically a Corvette sized fighter.
Without Mail Slots or with External docking facilities we could maybe fly around in Cruisers....Heavy Cruisers.....Battleships and Carriers perhaps....
Not sure what an actual MOTHERSHIP (like in Homeworld) would look and feel like in the ED universe .... and of course I cannot wait to see an actual Thargoid Vessel ... wether it will classed as a Large Fighter of if it actually will come in Capital class sizes.
Hauler, Type 6,7,9 and Keelback would have a word with you..
According to the video an Anaconda is 152.4m long? An Arliegh Burke is 154m long...
Doesn't look particularly small to me...
That's awesome!
Ok I meant that we only fly Fighter sized ships. I always thought back in the 80s that my cobra was more of Trader/Cruiser sized ship and that an Anaconda was more of a Battlecruiser/Heavy Hauler or Oil Tanker sized Ship.
A lot of the examples in this post are absurd, (though some of them are accurate). As if you don't know how big the real world counterparts are. Here is a picture of the Eagle with some stuff around it (in-game) that gives a proper size of the ship:
Considering the size of the rails being used to prevent a person from falling. The eagle is about the size of an E-2 Hawkeye or a little bigger than an F-18. I can't see where the perspective comes from the videos above. No one puts protective rails above someones head, and the ship size comparison video doesn't seem to get it about 20-30% off the actual size of a person.
Considering the size of the rails being used to prevent a person from falling. The eagle is about the size of an E-2 Hawkeye or a little bigger than an F-18. I can't see where the perspective comes from the videos above. No one puts protective rails above someones head, and the ship size comparison video doesn't seem to get it about 20-30% off the actual size of a person.
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The Eagle is a lot bigger than an F18. It is slightly smaller than an A320, closer to an A319. The ship dwarfs a modern fighter jet. Btw, I have had walk around those commercial outposts in VR, the ship models are not the same size as the playable ships. They look like lo res scale models.
The Youtube video is accurate, don't know how many times we have to say it. You need to be in VR to view the ship's/objects in their real size. I've been using VR with ED for nearly two years now.
Edit - Even without VR I find it strange that anyone would compare it to a fighter jet like the F18, you have plenty of space leading to the door at the back of the cockpit, that door is a full size door you can walk through into a rear compartment. Standing next to an Eagle in VR is like standing next to a single aisle Airliner, not a fighter jet.
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You can walk inside an E-2C as well. It has a crew of 5 people and it's still about the same size as a F-18 (you can see the tomcats escorting it are comparable). It's no where near the size of an airbus. Maybe the numbers they have written down say 30 meters wide (98 ft), but there's no reason to believe those are scale models in the space port and if that's the case, none of the objects in the station are to scale if it really is the size of an Airbus. (Edit: not to mention the incredible g-forces generated from the extreme maneuverability at such high speeds. The positive and negative G's seem to surpass human ability if a ship of that size and turn on a dime like that at 465 Knots [without boosting]. Those g-suites must be something else)
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It's probably just a direct result of most ships having dramatically oversized cockpits/canopies. I was gobsmacked the first time I switched to the external views and saw how tiny the pilot is in the Asp cockpit. When you're sitting inside, the hand-grips on the struts of the canopy look like they're reachable while sitting, but when you switch to external view you can see you'd struggle to reach them if you stood on the chair and stretched.
I suspect the oversized canopies are a deliberate choice, to make more visible and feel more in line with our 21st century expectations rather than 34th century reality. By rights the bridge should be internal and well-shielded, but we expect the ships we fly (and fight against) to have a pilot seat sitting behind/under a big wall of 'glass'.
I suspect the oversized canopies are a deliberate choice, to make more visible and feel more in line with our 21st century expectations rather than 34th century reality. By rights the bridge should be internal and well-shielded, but we expect the ships we fly (and fight against) to have a pilot seat sitting behind/under a big wall of 'glass'.
I wish people did. People say things like "the Corvette handles like a big fighter!" and all I can think is, "NO DUH, it is a big fighter, it's a Corvette!". Our ships, while large compared to us, for the universe they're in are all "small" compared to the other "big" space equipment; stations and capital ships.
Don't really agree with OP at all. The big ships handle way differently than the small ones. It's not like the anaconda is a capital ship: it's not a huge lumbering beast players expect it to be. It's really more like a frigate (at most) in the schemes of space warfare. The corvettes and cutters are the SMALLEST ships used by the actual military navies, and those ships are supposed to be fast and maneuverable compared to a real military ship like the Farragut or Majestic.
It makes sense to me, if you read what FD has said about the ships it's clear that they don't intend on letting players pilot capital ships. The biggest ships we get to pilot are the space equivalent of patrol craft/corvettes. Realistically even a frigate or destroyer in the elite universe would probably be a good bit bigger than the conda/cutter/vette considering the size of the capital ships.
basically what I'm saying is that the biggest ships we have are small in the grand scheme of the Elite universe, and that is intended by design.
It makes sense to me, if you read what FD has said about the ships it's clear that they don't intend on letting players pilot capital ships. The biggest ships we get to pilot are the space equivalent of patrol craft/corvettes. Realistically even a frigate or destroyer in the elite universe would probably be a good bit bigger than the conda/cutter/vette considering the size of the capital ships.
basically what I'm saying is that the biggest ships we have are small in the grand scheme of the Elite universe, and that is intended by design.
IS IT REALLY? Wow. I didn't realize. It doesn't look that long in game but is it really 2 and a half football fields long!?!? That's HUGE! Wow. I need to get me one of those. lol.
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'generally' I think it is because Elite is based around being realistic and based around smaller crews, capital ships and bigger do exists, and the anaconda isn't really small in terms of ship size, so I don't think it is 'that' bad, they can seem small sure, but they aren't, an anaconda is 152 meters long aircraft carriers are around 200 meters 'only' so yeah, they are actually quite big elite ships.
The main problem is the scale you see them in, you see them in space, there's nothing really to scale them after, but they aren't small...could you make even bigger ships? sure, and there are in the lore even bigger ships including capital ships.
The Farragut Battle Cruiser is 2km x 0.8km x 0.3km
So yeah, it isn't that they are small...it is that space is....well freaking huge.
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From my understand will come with the ships bigger then large class ships, which as far as I understood will arrive at some point
But again, the problem isn't that ships are small, it is that space is....big.
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