Why are there wing missions in solo?

[Riverside]

I've done some wing trade missions solo, and they're fine as missions; except for that bitter taste in my mouth left by the fact that someone else is going to get the same payout for a quarter of the work, just because they're in a wing of four.

That is a sticking point, the tendancy to double-up rather than split payouts was introduced with multi-crew, and later applied to wings after complaints of imbalance from the community. The wing missions just follow the path of least resistance in that respect.

It's not all bad, it's a good way to help a newbie earn some cash by winging up with you and sharing the mission for example. It's a thing, make the best of it imo.

 

[Pville_Piper]

Why are there wing missions in solo?​

It there for commanders with multiple personalities so they can wing up with themselves.

 

[Oopsie Daisy]

I know some folks want to do them, so do them in private and open. Solo there should be none, fix the mission board before stopping flipping it is not our fault you have a bad mission board system.

LOL. Good point OP.

Just because someone can do one on their own in no way minimizes the silliness of this.

Good job FDev.

 

[EISENHORN01]

I tried to think of a witty informative reply to your question OP but the best I could come up with was

How I play my game has nothing to do with you, stop trying to restrict what’s available to myself and others in game. Instead why don’t you stick to playing how you want and leave everyone else to play how they want.

sorry it’s not very good but it is from the heart.

 

[Caliber_az]

I tried to think of a witty informative reply to your question OP but the best I could come up with was

How I play my game has nothing to do with you, stop trying to restrict what’s available to myself and others in game. Instead why don’t you stick to playing how you want and leave everyone else to play how they want.

sorry it’s not very good but it is from the heart.

This

 

[evanevery]

I know some folks want to do them, so do them in private and open. Solo there should be none, fix the mission board before stopping flipping it is not our fault you have a bad mission board system.

Wing Missions are pretty Brain Dead to begin with:

1. Wing Missions should REQUIRE a wing to complete. (Otherwise they are not really WING missions - are they?) Multiple Ships (Wing) can be required based on a tight time constraint or just so dangerous that a single ship could never complete them.

2. That being said, ANY normal cargo delivery mission should be completable in multiple trips provided it doesn't violate the clients delivery requirements (mission timer). This is what we mostly what we have since the last update...

3. The existing payouts for "Wing Missions" is quite stupid. Every ship involved gets the full payout. That's dumb. What transport client would double, triple, or quadruple the total delivery cost just because you used more than one vehicle? The payout should be equally divided by however many ships cooperate to complete the mission.

 

[sollisb]

Wing Missions are pretty Brain Dead to begin with:

1. Wing Missions should REQUIRE a wing to complete. (Otherwise they are not really WING missions - are they?) Multiple Ships (Wing) can be required based on a tight time constraint or just so dangerous that a single ship could never complete them.

2. That being said, ANY normal cargo delivery mission should be completable in multiple trips provided it doesn't violate the clients delivery requirements (mission timer). This is what we mostly what we have since the last update...

3. The existing payouts for "Wing Missions" is quite stupid. Every ship involved gets the full payout. That's dumb. What transport client would double, triple, or quadruple the total delivery cost just because you used more than one vehicle? The payout should be equally divided by however many ships cooperate to complete the mission.

How is it dumb? I can login 3 of my accounts and earn credits on them all, while only really playing 1. That's a win in my books One of accounts is 1.7bn and sitting in a sidey and harmless

 

[Kaocraft]

I know some folks want to do them, so do them in private and open. Solo there should be none, fix the mission board before stopping flipping it is not our fault you have a bad mission board system.

The logic you'll get in response is always going to be circular:

Q: "Why do WING missions appear in SOLO?"
A: "Because they CAN be done by a single CMDR and it offers an additional tier of risk/reward. We don't want any content to be closed off to any modes."
Q: "OK then why do Wing missions pay so pathetically low per ton/kill/etc?"
A: "Oh that's because when we calculate the value, we divide it by four, so the only way to collect the full payout is for a wing of four to claim it, with each member getting an equal share. (X/4)*4=X, see?"
Q: "Why don't you just leave the payout number alone, and divide the reward equally amongst all participants afterwards?"
A: "We can't have that! If we did THAT, a solo player could run the mission by himself and claim the full reward"
Q: "But isn't that what *should happen*? Doesn't that make more sense?"
A: "No."
Q: "Why?"
A: "Because they are WING missions! We want to discourage people in SOLO from doing WING missions! What is so hard to understand about that?"
Q: "OK, then why do WING missions clog up the board in SOLO?"
A: "Well, you see . . . "

 

[bitstorm]

Just change the wording for solo.

Wing mission => Hard mission

Sorted

 

[Mohrgan]

Another reason is surly that having wing missions not available to everyone would have cause someone to ask: "Why aren't there wing missions in solo".

 

[Captain Willard]

Just another whine post that everything should be open only.
Turn this around. Why are there solo missions in open? They should be wing only missions with the payout split among the wing. That wouldn't get far.
But a solo player making 4 runs instead of a wing making one run is just wrong. Like someone posted, change the name to High quantity cargo missions and all would be well. Close the thread for stupidity.

 

[leifhansson]

At the moment this is the way I choose to make credits. Hauling missions have a payout of 15 - 20 mil creds from time to time. i only accept them, when I only need 2 - 3 trips with a cutter. The other missions are crap. Massacre 120 ships for 4 mil ? Haul 6000 tons of whatnot for 2 mil ? Really..

 

[JetsonRING]

Who wants to take bets on whether wing-missions will still appear in SOLO mode on the new & improved mission server?

 

[Riverside]

Who wants to take bets on whether wing-missions will still appear in SOLO mode on the new & improved mission server?

Well seeing how it'll give the same mission set independent of mode I'd say yes.

But with the recently introduced changes to trade mission (partial completion) I'd guess we're moving towards having what are currently called wing missions simply becoming a more challenging variant of regular missions, which they sort of are already.

So will there continue to be a mix of missions easy & harder? Yes.

 

[Captain Willard]

Of course it will still be on all three modes. Taking it out of solo would just mean moving to PG mode to do them.
Nowhere does it say "Wing Only mission" No one wants that.
I'm all for anything that benefits any mode. In the same breath, dead set against anything that detracts from a mode or benefits one mode over another.

 

[Yure]

More importantly, why the hell is there a ridiculous amount of them?

 

[Strangepork]

I know some folks want to do them, so do them in private and open. Solo there should be none, fix the mission board before stopping flipping it is not our fault you have a bad mission board system.

I do the delivery and assassin ones alone in my cutters.

 

[yolomcbobbinz]

Because you can do them...solo

 

[fu9ar]

So if you find a solid wing mission in solo you can then call up your buds before it expires, meet up, and take it on together?

 

[Sylveria]

More importantly, why the hell is there a ridiculous amount of them?

This. I've no problem with them existing... but proportionally it really is a bit ridiculous.

I don't think it's going to change without a complete Mission System overhaul, however. Perhaps they'll address that with the new dedicated mission server.