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Frankymole

Frankymole
Why do guards scan and shoot at me when I have no bounties or fines, and am in a friendly faction base?

I deliberately did inventory management to dispose of two mission viruses (left over from old missions) so I didn't have them on me when scanned as I threw them to the ground elsewhere.

Journal:
{ "timestamp":"2022-09-23T23:20:13Z", "event":"ShipLocker" }
{ "timestamp":"2022-09-23T23:20:23Z", "event":"DropItems", "Name":"virus", "Type":"Data", "OwnerID":0, "MissionID":889656087, "Count":1 }
{ "timestamp":"2022-09-23T23:20:23Z", "event":"BackpackChange", "Removed":[ { "Name":"virus", "OwnerID":0, "MissionID":889656087, "Count":1, "Type":"Data" } ] }
{ "timestamp":"2022-09-23T23:20:26Z", "event":"DropItems", "Name":"virus", "Type":"Data", "OwnerID":0, "MissionID":890943008, "Count":1 }
{ "timestamp":"2022-09-23T23:20:26Z", "event":"BackpackChange", "Removed":[ { "Name":"virus", "OwnerID":0, "MissionID":890943008, "Count":1, "Type":"Data" } ] }
{ "timestamp":"2022-09-23T23:21:28Z", "event":"CommitCrime", "CrimeType":"onFoot_carryingIllegalGoods", "Faction":"Societas Eruditorum de Civitas Dei", "Fine":0 }
{ "timestamp":"2022-09-23T23:21:29Z", "event":"ShieldState", "ShieldsUp":true }
{ "timestamp":"2022-09-23T23:21:30Z", "event":"UnderAttack", "Target":"You" }

Relogging without the goods and they scan me again - even though I am carrying nothing illegal - and again shoot at me. What's going on?
 
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Codger

Codger
Frankymole said:
Relogging without the goods and they scan me again - even though I am carrying nothing illegal - and again shoot at me. What's going on?
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Is the "You have illegal goods" icon showing in your suit HUD? Red circle with a line through it?

Cuz according to that journal there the Crime Type is onFoot_carryingIllegalGoods. So it would appear you still had something on you. Or there's a bug.
 

Frankymole

Frankymole
Nothing carried at all, all zero on backpack items. Only those viruses I threw away, and I relogged since anyway but still got scanned and shot at (despite clean status). Hence the "removed" entry on the log the first time, when I chucked the viruses away.

Is there a bug where getting rid of illegal items doesn't register? Even though you don't carry them any more? I tossed them on landing, before even getting into the settlement or having anyone on my scanner radar circle thing.
 

Codger

Codger
Frankymole said:
Nothing carried at all, all zero on backpack items. Only those viruses I threw away, and I relogged since anyway but still got scanned and shot at (despite clean status). Hence the "removed" entry on the log the first time, when I chucked the viruses away.

Is there a bug where getting rid of illegal items doesn't register? Even though you don't carry them any more? I tossed them on landing, before even getting into the settlement or having anyone on my scanner radar circle thing.
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I don’t know. I’ve never had a problem. Very strange that the journal says you had something illegal, if your backpack was empty.
 

Frankymole

Frankymole
Oh great, massacre mission bugged here too. I shot every single person on the base, and it's still showing 0/20. Notoriety 2 for nothing.
 

Frankymole

Frankymole
Codger said:
I don’t know. I’ve never had a problem. Very strange that the journal says you had something illegal, if your backpack was empty.
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That's from the guard's scan - if you look at the rows above, it sys "removed" for the two things I got rid of when I emptied my backpack. As he scanned me, then shot me, I put my shields up.
 

aRJay

aRJay
Probably;
  1. The guard was psychic and knew you were going to kill everyone so shot you to prevent it happening.
  2. The guard was behind on his body count quota.
  3. The guard had a really bad hangover so shot you for breathing too loudly, and just picked illegal items as the justification if anybody asked.
  4. A bug.
 

Northpin

Northpin
Codger said:
Cuz according to that journal there the Crime Type is onFoot_carryingIllegalGoods. So it would appear you still had something on you. Or there's a bug
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Frankymole said:
Nothing carried at all, all zero on backpack items.
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Usually it's them e-breaches... which appear in a different part of your backpack and they're easily to miss.
And you should have the illegal stuff marker lit in red on your hud in that case. But then again, that might also be easily missed (or discarded as "damn bugs")
 

Frankymole

Frankymole
Yes it wasn't e-breaches. That's always the first thing I check on inventory management on leaving the ship, it's on the default tab as it opens. It was zero - as usual.
 
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