Why do I own a T9?

[smiths121]

Have to admit, never really thoght of the T-9 as a mission ship, at least on the frontier where I am based. I am guessing you need large population systems with compatible economic types and/or one or more of those posh ground base/cities to generate the missions bulk freight missions. They have to be pretty close for a T-9 as well. If it is more frontier and outpost, then the Python is the better match. If I wanted to run a T-9 as main ship, think I would head to the core, lots of large population industrial and high tech to generate the missions.

Simon

 

[Red Fox Four]

Good call.
A spoiler, like bacon, improves everything.

A spoiler, made out of bacon, ontop of a type9 made out of burgers.

Spoiler

I'm ranked Elite in Trading and I'm at stations that I'm allied with a significant majority of the factions yet I checkout the mission boards and I can't even fill my hold with the missions listed even if I were to accept missions to several systems. Why?

The average haulage mission to a large pad is paying 1.3 million max while some are less than a million. On a rare occasion I'll find one close to 1.8 million. I can find maybe 4 to 5 missions on the whole board, however, most of the time I can only find 2 to 3 mission to haul stuff on the entire board. Why?

But look, there's quite a few missions that state "ship too large". I could easily fill my T9 with them and they pay at least 75% more for the same quantities than do the missions to large pads. Why?

In the mix of missions that say my ship is too large there is often several for 2 to 3.5 million credits. No single large pad mission approaches that kind of a payout. Why?

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There are now less wing missions... Good or bad, I don't know, but these pay around a million to a million and a half max for each trip that it would take me to finish the mission. The typical 120 or 180 ton haulage missions are paying about the same price to haul about 1/3 of the tonnage. Why?

It is very hard to make a decent paying trip back now as there are less haulage missions of any type on the board. Why?

The source and return missions are even worse paying and I'm lucky to find something I can transport to the location to make it decently profitable. Source and Return missions dominate the boards and while wing missions pay more, they still pay less per ton than to straight haulage missions. Why?

What good is it to fly to the only 3 large pads within 25 light years looking for 1600 insulating membranes and the first 2 ports had 1 each and the other had less than 50?

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I can't see quantities listed along the price. Why?

If I do find a decent paying source and return mission, I can't find the cargo in any quantity in the area unless it is at a medium/small pad facility. Why?

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Yet, using EDDB, I can see that several small and medium pad facilities have literally THOUSANDS of them in stock. Why?

If I take a high paying, long range mission (180,000+ls) mission, the Source and Return missions pay the same money as they do anywhere else... Why?

Data missions are now hard to come by. Why?

I look at my Oculus and think about logging into the game and I ask why?

Why do I own a T9 or any other large pad ship?

Type-9 is pretty good for those Wing based "source X item" missions where you need to bring 6000T of whatever. Doing those with 300'ish cargo in an Anaconda is a PITA. Type-9 can at least bring over twice that much even in a (somewhat) defensive loadout (i.e. not pure 'unshielded trader' config)

 

[777Driver]

Have to admit, never really thoght of the T-9 as a mission ship, at least on the frontier where I am based. I am guessing you need large population systems with compatible economic types and/or one or more of those posh ground base/cities to generate the missions bulk freight missions. They have to be pretty close for a T-9 as well. If it is more frontier and outpost, then the Python is the better match. If I wanted to run a T-9 as main ship, think I would head to the core, lots of large population industrial and high tech to generate the missions.

Simon

Industrial and high tech are actually quite poor for haulage missions. The payouts are based on the type of cargo, you should be looking for systems that export silver,gold, palladium, weapons. I've also found military ports to be a good source of missions, boom state and high population.

 

[Red Fox Four]

Industrial and high tech are actually quite poor for haulage missions. The payouts are based on the type of cargo, you should be looking for systems that export silver,gold, palladium, weapons. I've also found military ports to be a good source of missions, boom state and high population.

Hm... my main base is a surface military outpost and the cargo missions out of that place are very scarce. Mostly I get massacre missions, assassination, some salvage missions and scanning surface installations.

 

[The Lawful]

The T-9 has the largest cargo capacity in the game, even surpassing the Cutter now. As you are already Elite, for missions, go to Jameson Memorial, get allied with all the factions and then have a look at the sensitive cargo ones that require either Elite or a Founder's World permit. You can take up to three at a time with that huge cargo capacity, requiring a single jump to either Shinrarta itself or one of the one hop locations (Bunda, Katta, Nuenets, Fong et al). Each of them reliably yields ~8m, and even after 3.0.3. That's about 50m/hr, and pretty guaranteed. Or go to Darnielle's Progress in Maia, when one of the factions is in Boom, Meta-Alloy deliveries yield up to 50m each (as shown in the screenshots), got one offered for 58m even but couldn't take it for there seems to be a 50m hard cap on rewards. There are plenty of advantages for the large ships, money only being one of them. A Python could do considerably less.

O7,
[noob]

 

[777Driver]

The T-9 has the largest cargo capacity in the game, even surpassing the Cutter now. As you are already Elite, for missions, go to Jameson Memorial, get allied with all the factions and then have a look at the sensitive cargo ones that require either Elite or a Founder's World permit. You can take up to three at a time with that huge cargo capacity, requiring a single jump to either Shinrarta itself or one of the one hop locations (Bunda, Katta, Nuenets, Fong et al). Each of them reliably yields ~8m, and even after 3.0.3. That's about 50m/hr, and pretty guaranteed. Or go to Darnielle's Progress in Maia, when one of the factions is in Boom, Meta-Alloy deliveries yield up to 50m each (as shown in the screenshots), got one offered for 58m even but couldn't take it for there seems to be a 50m hard cap on rewards. There are plenty of advantages for the large ships, money only being one of them. A Python could do considerably less.

O7,
[noob]

^

Just landed back in Maia, already have 30 million worth of cargo onboard. Still plenty of space left.

 

[Red Fox Four]

The T-9 has the largest cargo capacity in the game, even surpassing the Cutter now.

Well... 752 vs 720 (with lowest shield gens) so the difference between T-9 and Cutter isn't big.

Granted, there is a huge difference in pricetag for the ship itself and of course the rank-lock on Cutter.

 

[The Lawful]

Well... 752 vs 720 (with lowest shield gens) so the difference between T-9 and Cutter isn't big.

Granted, there is a huge difference in pricetag for the ship itself and of course the rank-lock on Cutter.

Well, it makes a difference if you need just that extra capacity to take another mission. Besides, I'm not certain if I would really fit a size 5 shield on the Cutter, so for me, it's IIRC only 704t in practice (don't know if size 5 shields are possible anymore since 3.0, only legacy ones, possibly). My Cutter usually has even less, for I'm lazy and also have an SLF bay fitted

O7,
[noob]

 

[Red Fox Four]

Well, it makes a difference if you need just that extra capacity to take another mission. Besides, I'm not certain if I would really fit a size 5 shield on the Cutter, so for me, it's IIRC only 704t in practice (don't know if size 5 shields are possible anymore since 3.0, only legacy ones, possibly). My Cutter usually has even less, for I'm lazy and also have an SLF bay fitted

O7,
[noob]

You can budget-fit the T9 for as low as 100-105m and get 756T cargo I go with 752T cause I like having a Docking Computer in the Class 2 slot (yes I'm lazy, especially with a heavy ship and D-rated thrusters

 

[MaseHideyori]

Gotta be blunt here, perhaps try moving locations?

There are high paying locations out there, also a station in the Irandan system got attacked today, you can make 4millilion credits a run shipping meds there in a T9
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OFF Topic: Mmmmmm...... is that MAIA system cmdr?

ON:

• If you want to go full cargo u can try moving to the "xeno sector", stations there (almost all) are giving basic material delivery missions to systems nearby

• Travel to SOL (already suggested). Plenty of cargo delivery missions
• Use the T9 as a normal Freighter Vessel (already suggested too) <---- less pay per tn, BUT you can "control" your incomes much better without any "randomness" you are the boss
  

Add this to the mix: Boom state + Industrial / Extraction / Refinery based economy = PROFIT (actually, every system that ppl suggested ya has that "mix" check yourself the SOL system, or the MAIA system) in those systems u can do missions with high payout and/or normal freighter job with high payout just do both! take missions and full your cargo with the needs of your destination.

salkjfdkljslkfjsdoijfsoidjfio FKINGPROFIT!!!!! [big grin]​

 

[Snowymonk]

I am a bit of a fleet . In my time playing the game, I have bought one of each ship type, most of which are now collecting dust because they have been replaced by newer, faster, bigger, better ships.

Until the recent buff, my Type-9 had also been gathering dust as the Cutter was a better haulage ship.
Now, however, it has made a resurgence and is my go-to ship when I want to help Project IDA or take part in a Trade CG like this weeks one.

You can't really beat it for pure tonnage carried.

 

[Ian Skippy]

Spoiler

I'm ranked Elite in Trading and I'm at stations that I'm allied with a significant majority of the factions yet I checkout the mission boards and I can't even fill my hold with the missions listed even if I were to accept missions to several systems. Why?

The average haulage mission to a large pad is paying 1.3 million max while some are less than a million. On a rare occasion I'll find one close to 1.8 million. I can find maybe 4 to 5 missions on the whole board, however, most of the time I can only find 2 to 3 mission to haul stuff on the entire board. Why?

But look, there's quite a few missions that state "ship too large". I could easily fill my T9 with them and they pay at least 75% more for the same quantities than do the missions to large pads. Why?

In the mix of missions that say my ship is too large there is often several for 2 to 3.5 million credits. No single large pad mission approaches that kind of a payout. Why?

​

There are now less wing missions... Good or bad, I don't know, but these pay around a million to a million and a half max for each trip that it would take me to finish the mission. The typical 120 or 180 ton haulage missions are paying about the same price to haul about 1/3 of the tonnage. Why?

It is very hard to make a decent paying trip back now as there are less haulage missions of any type on the board. Why?

The source and return missions are even worse paying and I'm lucky to find something I can transport to the location to make it decently profitable. Source and Return missions dominate the boards and while wing missions pay more, they still pay less per ton than to straight haulage missions. Why?

What good is it to fly to the only 3 large pads within 25 light years looking for 1600 insulating membranes and the first 2 ports had 1 each and the other had less than 50?

​

I can't see quantities listed along the price. Why?

If I do find a decent paying source and return mission, I can't find the cargo in any quantity in the area unless it is at a medium/small pad facility. Why?

​

Yet, using EDDB, I can see that several small and medium pad facilities have literally THOUSANDS of them in stock. Why?

If I take a high paying, long range mission (180,000+ls) mission, the Source and Return missions pay the same money as they do anywhere else... Why?

Data missions are now hard to come by. Why?

I look at my Oculus and think about logging into the game and I ask why?

Why do I own a T9 or any other large pad ship?

1) Find a system in a negative state.
2) Fill t9 with counter commodity
3) ???
4) Profit

 

[The Lawful]

FWIW, besides getting massive amounts of credits for single hop deliveries, one of the advantages of Maia Meta-Alloy missions is that you get rather frequently hyperdicted by our Xeno overlords, so it doesn't get boring too soon. Escaping an aggro Medusa who brought along three of her friends in a T-9 or Conda can be quite entertaining. The crucial thing is to set the hiwake location before the EMP blast disables everything, the Xenos got a mass lock factor of 30 and the more advanced ones go 500+, so running away is no viable option

O7,
[noob]

 

[Pville_Piper]

I guess people miss the point. And to be honest, I was frustrated and not really driving a point well.

The point I'm making is that we have a mission system available to use. I don't expect it to be perfect and always deliver tons of missions making 50 million a run. But to fly to a station that is in BOOM state and find only 1 mission? I can expect that in a bust state or a declining state maybe, but it still seems odd that you can't get missions. Again, I don't care what it pays, there was only one mission in a boom state! Why? There wasn't even a mission in the unavailable missions. The odd thing was that there was plenty of Data missions which were rare in the Tun area.

 

[DukeIronHand]

As, almost exclusively, a T9/10 pilot the T9 makes a fine mission ship.
Assuming you are not doing a Wing Delivery Mission you will have left over cargo space probably.
Use the new trade feature in the Commodity Menu and fill up with the highest trade price product.
Rinse/repeat. If I am doing Delivery Missions my cargo holds are never empty.

EDIT: Sorry OP. Posted the above while you posted your last. Yea. Mission Boards should have dozens of missions for each faction. Why they don’t is beyond me.

 

[El_Hefe]

Board hop. Its the only efficent way of filling a T9 in one station imo.

Or you could take your T9 to a ripe barnacle site,bring and SRV,spend 5/6hrs filling it with 700t of meta alloys with furious relogging them sell them all for 79.1mil credits

 

[Pville_Piper]

Went mining today, made 10 million (5.9 on Painite) then did some runs to an outbreak system for 2.5 million one way with basic medicines... Paid better than wing missions.

Went to 3 boom systems and 2 only had 2 haulage missions for chump change. The other had 4 missions, 3 of which were from an allied faction and none were worth over 500k.

 

[777Driver]

Went mining today, made 10 million (5.9 on Painite) then did some runs to an outbreak system for 2.5 million one way with basic medicines... Paid better than wing missions.

Went to 3 boom systems and 2 only had 2 haulage missions for chump change. The other had 4 missions, 3 of which were from an allied faction and none were worth over 500k.

What was the economy at those systems? If they are only exporting low value commodities the mission board will reflect that. Doesn't matter if a system is in boom if all they are exporting is clothes and domestics appliances.

What you should be doing is shipping meds to the burning station, then head to Maia.

 

[Pville_Piper]

I guess I should edit the first post as everybody is fixated on credits. I would just like to see a reasonable level amount of haulage missions in a boom state. Period. The end. I know full well how to find trades in game without the mission board. I know full well how to make money without the mission board. But, on some nights, I just want to get in, pickup a couple of missions and play the game. Not lookup third party sites, not spend half the night bumping around looking for things.

So I ask you...

1. Is one haulage mission ON THE ENTIRE MISSION BOARD a reasonable amount of missions that one would expect to find in a BOOM state?
2. Should the fact that I'm allied more than one faction that's state is listed as BOOM mean that I can regularly expect to find only 1 mission ON THE ENTIRE MISSION BOARD be considered reasonable?

If the answer to either of those questions is YES then the Devs wasted their time revamping the trade system and should just have made an in game link to third party site and remove all haulage and fetch missions

I would just like to fill up a hold with a few missions and go. I guess I'm just the dumbest son of a B. for thinking that I should be able to go the mission board and find missions. Silly me. I'll go now, I'll not bother you with my idiocy anymore.

 

[IndigoWyrd]

I dunno why you do, but I know why I own two of them.

1. Incredible Mining Ship. Period.

2. Massive flying warehouse that feels like you're flying a warehouse.

3. Credits be damned, and yes, that's me saying it, they're fun to fly.