Why don't pilots wear helmets?

Why don't pilots that expect to get into combat wear helmets? It just seems ridiculous not to wear one when your cockpit glass can get blown off and get exposed to dangerous space debris.

The Remlok makes sense for civilian passengers on a liner (like oxygen masks on today's airplanes) but combat pilots should, in addition to the Remlok, wear a helmet when flying.
 
Why don't pilots that expect to get into combat wear helmets? It just seems ridiculous not to wear one when your cockpit glass can get blown off and get exposed to dangerous space debris.

The Remlok makes sense for civilian passengers on a liner (like oxygen masks on today's airplanes) but combat pilots should, in addition to the Remlok, wear a helmet when flying.

I was wandering that as well, with the walking on stations and ships expansion am sure we will get the option to wear helmets wile piloting if people demand it.
 
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We have deployable helmets now, so no reason to wear a full helmet all the time. I know I wouldn't.
 
This was explained in one of the dev diary vids, in which career spacemen space suits and PPE were discussed in some detail. When spaceman is exposed to space his delicate face bits (eyes, mouth, ears nose) are (auto-magically?) protected by transparent stuff and air is fed to mouth and nose by a tube connected to a chest mounted machine. No helmet though so watch your head spaceman.
 
Given that modern fighter pilots helmets are for supplying oxygen, a HUD, a mic and earphones because the cockpit is not pressurised a pilot in an Elite ship does not need one.

Pilots don't wear helmets for physical protection, it's to carry equipment and to cope with low pressures in the cockpit and in case of ejection.

Pilots in Elite have implants for communication and to get the HUD to work (check out some of the design artwork, your HUD will still work when you are not even in the ship) and they have e deployable emergency oxygen supply, so pretty much no need for a helmet.
 
The Remlok is just an emergency measure it doesn't offer the same protection as a solid helmet does.

Maybe thats how a form of the escape capsule works to some extent - the helmet provides a shield bubble for you to survive long enough to be rescued. It will be able to calculate the direction of the nearest port and a short burst from the top of the helmet propels you in the correct direction.
You may think that this will require a large helmet but not so as due to minaturisation all the flexible electronics, shield emitters and minature boosters fit nicely within a compact shell - its the battery pack and rocket fuel in your accompanying backpack that weighs 2 tons (doesnt matter in space but is a real drawback when you get near a planet) :)

I do think that a suitable set of clothing for the job tha you are doing is vital so that a trader going about a normal tour would not wear a helmet but possibly a clean suit or overalls depending on the nature of his cargo, a pirate may wear a tattered onesie with a battered helmet while a milatery pilot would have a pristine uniform with a full helmet and an assassin would wear whatever fits in with his background story, a tour guide would wear a clean suit etc
That way people will have differing appearances depending on what their role was so that if you choose to contact another ship by video feed you may get a better picture as to their intensions and if you only have voice coms, either you are too far away or there is some other issue or they are hiding something (maybe the fact that they are poor and are scruffy or have expensive cargo and are wearing a suit or has a helmet on ready to attack).
 
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Also as a historical/cultural thing, in the past (Frontier, FFE) journeys could take weeks or months. Wearing a helmet all that time would have been damned uncomfortable.
 

Josh Atack

Former Frontier Employee
Frontier
Who says some of them don't wear helmets? I'm not sure where that came from, I think definitely some pilots would wear helmets, mining ships for example and engineers. We should have a good range of pilots, but there are more necessary assets needed for the game at the moment.
 
Like a lot of things, it is often a case of risk versus benefit. The reality is that what appears safer for flying, is not always the safest practice in actuality. It's kind of like flying an aeroplane really low - obviously that is not as safe as flying well clear of terrain, but it actually would be worth the risk if people were likely to launch SAMs at you, since you'd be masked by the terrain for much of the time. But back to headgear...

Technically, modern day jet fighter pilots would be 'safer' if they all wore pressure suits with very bulky sealed helmets similar to the kind of thing pilots of specialised very high altitude reconnaissance 'spaceplanes' such as the SR-71, MiG-31 and U2 have to wear, rather than sitting in a pressurised cockpit with a much more lightweight 'bonedome' open-face helmet with a drop down visor and clip-on oxygen mask, as is the case with fighter aircraft.

A pressure suit and full helmet would only be 'safer' in the sense that a pilot would be better protected if there was a loss of cockpit pressure. It would not actually be safer in practical operational terms for a fighter pilot, since in a full pressure suit, they would no longer be able to wear thin gloves, which makes operating the controls easier, and similarly, a cumbersome fully-sealed helmet would constrict peripheral vision massively. That would be disastrous for a fighter pilot, because it is the peripheral vision which is more sensitive to movement, so that's the bit of the vision field which allows a fighter pilot to spot and track targets early and to maintain situational awareness in a dogfight. Even with modern jet fighter combat, you can have all the radar systems in the world, but eventually a dogfight comes down to maneuvering skill and using the Mark 1 Eyeball to maintain your SA.

Thus the modern fighter pilot helmet is more about carrying a visor to prevent dazzle and to hold your earphones, mike and oxygen mask whilst also offering a small amount of protection as a bit of a fringe benefit. But if you asked most fighter pilots, I bet you they'd tell you that they'd prefer it if they did not have to wear one, since they are heavy (not good when pulling G) and they restrict vision and movement somewhat. The oxygen masks can chafe too when you wear them for a long time and they invariably stink a bit as well.

Some years ago, those of us who fly civil aircraft in the UK in close proximity to other aircraft - i.e. airshow display pilots, glider pilots, glider tow aircraft pilots, helicopter pilots and that kind of thing - were warned to stop wearing something as seemingly harmless as baseball caps when piloting, or to turn such caps around so the peak faced backwards when piloting (and this was at a time when the baseball cap was 'the' pilot hat, everyone wore them). The warning followed a CAA air accident investigation of a crash which occurred at the airfield I flew from at the time, in which three pilots I knew fairly well (two in one aircraft, one in the other), were killed in a mid-air collision. It had been determined that their wearing of baseball caps had restricted their upward vision sufficiently to contribute to the accident - i.e. one aircraft descended into the other and the pilots in the aircraft below simply had not seen it coming down onto them, this despite having a fully unrestricted 'blown' canopy, similar to the one in the photo of me below.

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That photograph was taken at the time of that crash investigation, at the airfield where that fatal accident occurred. You can see that the baseball cap I am wearing is on my head backwards. This is not me attempting to look all 'gangsta', it is as a direct result of that crash investigation, determining that the peak overhang of such headgear severely restricts upward vision and situational awareness and is dangerous. And believe me, when flying from places like that on a busy day, there would be so many aircraft circling around within spitting distance of one another, that it was reminiscent of being in a WW1 dogfight. So much so in fact, that I used to practice leading other aircraft in 60 degree banked turns and imagine I had a gun on my aircraft for a bit of additional entertainment! Yes, all pilots are big kids!

In other words, anything which restricts movement or visibility in a cockpit is a big no-no if you can get away without wearing it.
 
Who says some of them don't wear helmets? I'm not sure where that came from, I think definitely some pilots would wear helmets, mining ships for example and engineers. We should have a good range of pilots, but there are more necessary assets needed for the game at the moment.

Thanks for weighting in on this Josh :)
 
Yes, all pilots are big kids!

This I can vouch for. A friend of a friend is a police helicopter pilot for a local constabulary, and once took my friend up for a flight over the city for an article she was writing. At one point he said "Do you want to do a wakka-wakka?"

My friend, non-plussed, replied "A what? What the hell are-"

Before she finished, the pilot went into a steep, banking turn, and name of the maneouvre became immediately apparent.

I won't tell you about the airline pilot the same friend knows. It would put you off commercial flying.

Er, back on topic, the police pilot wears a helmet but the commercial airline pilot doesn't. There.
 
How about helmets with built in HUD's just modern fighter aircraft? And lets face it if you have to eject/get blown out of your ship, its best for you if you have your full environment suit on...

Brian :)
 

Jenner

I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
Who says some of them don't wear helmets? I'm not sure where that came from, I think definitely some pilots would wear helmets, mining ships for example and engineers. We should have a good range of pilots, but there are more necessary assets needed for the game at the moment.

Good to hear that we'll have a lot of variety! Spice of life and all.... :p From a purely cosmetic perspective I'd love to be able to see my character's face, though. Having the option for helmets is well and good, of course, but why would a pilot in a large freighter or something with a bridge (ie-not a fighter) want to wear a full-on vac suit? It just makes more sense that they would lounge around in their skivvies as much as possible. :p
 
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