Why FSS Mode Must Go

[[VR] Merkir]

This sounds like a fantastic idea, it'd give me actual reason to engage with the orrery which it's lacking right now.

For the orrery to become the start of discovery (aka Explorer's Console), it would need to look a lot better than the current orrery, which to me seems more of a placeholder.


Prior to the big reveal, I was really expecting a whole variety of possible game designs or features such as:

1. An "Explorer's Console" view, much like a science station where exploration could be tailored to the explorer's desires,
2. Many new exploration modules that could be added to ships to enhance exploration functionality,
3. New engineer upgrades and experimental effects,
4. (Most importantly) Exploration as a strategy mini-game, not a hand-eye coordination mini-game. Tbh, the reveal was a shock.
5. Some mystery to be introduced whereby the gameplay concentrates on uncovering system information from a viewpoint of uncertainty*.

*This is technically what every detection and estimation theory researcher and practitioner (such as myself) would expect from a discovery system. Detection and estimation is all about applying resources to uncover objects and reduce error (uncertainty). Typically this means sensors, CPU & algorithms which would have been ideal to introduce as modules/effects that enhance different aspects of discovery.

Each explorer could choose the "loadout" of their exploration ship, tailored to their own priorities - whatever makes them tick wrt exploration.

Didn't really get any of those, so quite a disappointment.

 

[askavir]

After this I have now had enough. I don't want the ADS back in the game. Even if it's an optional module. It was the worst mechanic in ED and I hope it dies forever.

I was perfectly happy for a compromise, but not anymore. I hope you are happy.

Unless you're David Braben in disguise, the fact you agree to a compromise or not doesn't matter one single tiny yota.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

Unless you're David Braben in disguise, the fact you agree to a compromise or not doesn't matter one single tiny yota.

I know it doesn't. But the more support these people get the more likely something may happen. To keep attacking people that don't mind or like the FSS is counter productive and will do the opposite of helping their cause.

Their choice at the end of the day, it's no skin of my back.

 

[Burke]

After this I have now had enough. I don't want the ADS back in the game. Even if it's an optional module. It was the worst mechanic in ED and I hope it dies forever.

So are you going to stop posting in here now? Looks as if you have reached the end of your tether...

 

[Old Duck]

Unless you're David Braben in disguise, the fact you agree to a compromise or not doesn't matter one single tiny yota.

As if David Braben has any say about this game anymore

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

So are you going to stop posting in here now? Looks as if you have reached the end of your tether...

What tether. Are you going to stop posting the same thing again and again on this thread? Or are you going to continue.

Personally I will check up every now and again to see if anyone has said anything contructive and realistic and I may get behind it. So far I have seen very little.

Most of it is people demanding the ADS back (I can't see that happening), demanding the FSS should go (I can't see that happening) or a completely new version of explorations mechanics (Shock horror, I can't see that happening either). The only thing that I can see coming into the game is the black fuzzy orbs in the system map after the honk at a push.

I can also see the spectrul analysis coming into the game like this to give the analysis mode some meaning instead of the pointless mode it is at the moment:

That is an improvement to the current system, not a re-write, not a replacement and not a step back to old mechanics.

There will be no brand new mechanics at least not for a long time and the FSS is not going away anytime soon. This is FDevs game and they will take it in whatever direction they want it to. That maybe not the direction some people want. That's life.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

As if David Braben has any say about this game anymore

As he is the CEO of the company, I would be surprised if he doesn't, whether he does say something or not though is most likely up to him.

 

[Enderby]

Hopefully they'll fix things soon.

 

[Old Duck]

Hopefully they'll fix things soon.

Perhaps in a parallel universe. "Fixing things soon" is not the first thing that comes to mind regarding Frontier.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

Perhaps in a parallel universe. "Fixing things soon" is not the first thing that comes to mind regarding Frontier.

Not there is anything broken about the FSS either. It seems to be working perfectly for me whether I like it or not. So in that regard there is nothing that needs fixing.

 

[Enderby]

Not there is anything broken about the FSS either. It seems to be working perfectly for me whether I like it or not. So in that regard there is nothing that needs fixing.

Well, you know, make it better.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

Well, you know, make it better.

I am all up for improvements and I do believe the FSS can certainly be improved. It is far from perfect.

 

[askavir]

As if David Braben has any say about this game anymore

You got me with that one

 

[Stewart_]

Since FSS has just been added to the game, so it's not going anywhere. We can hope for improvements, though.

While FSS is an improvement on what was before, there is zero skill involved. There is zero skill in tunning signals. It would also be better, IMO, if it didn't take you away to another screen, away from the cockpit view.

 

[Jon474]

Well, sadly this thread has become everything I now dislike about Elite Dangerous...perhaps about modern gaming, really.

Time to go.

I’m done.

Take care, Cmdrs.

Jon

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

Since FSS has just been added to the game, so it's not going anywhere. We can hope for improvements, though.

While FSS is an improvement on what was before, there is zero skill involved. There is zero skill in tunning signals. It would also be better, IMO, if it didn't take you away to another screen, away from the cockpit view.

I wouldn't call it zero skill, just very low skill. But that doesn't bother me too much as long as I find the experience enjoyable. There are many things that are not skillful but are very enjoyable.

 

[Riverside]

I wouldn't call it zero skill, just very low skill. But that doesn't bother me too much as long as I find the experience enjoyable. There are many things that are not skillful but are very enjoyable.

The hardest part was setting up a control configuration that didn't make my hand sore after 10 minutes.

 

[Burke]

What tether. Are you going to stop posting the same thing again and again on this thread? Or are you going to continue.

You have twice as many posts in here than anybody else. Its been established that this means nobody listens to you.

Personally I will check up every now and again to see if anyone has said anything contructive and realistic and I may get behind it. So far I have seen very little.

Napoleon syndrome?

 

[askavir]

There are many things that are not skillful but are very enjoyable.

While I do absolutely agree that there are enjoyable things that do not require skill at all, I completely disagree that pointing at marked circles is one of those enjoyable things. And it only gets worse with time.

 

[Enderby]

It's honestly one of the worst things that I've ever seen added to an established 'game', that ruddy pointing at the blob business.