Why no Multicrew in Solo?

[SeaFireliv]

Hello Cmdrs,

now this might Sound silly to some of you, but hear me out. Seriously.

Multicrew is basically allowing real Players to Play with you. By allowing other solo Players into your ship (or accessing other ships in solo), you basically Combine all the Spirit of the Solo mode (no real antagonists, no griefers, more NPCs) with the advantages of multicrew (playing together with others).

Most Play in Solo AFAIK, but can't use Multicrew. If you don't want to Play in Open (or in a PG, but there you don't stand a Chance finding a Crew), you are basically kept away from multicrew.

What are your thoughts on this?

EDIT: I'm Aware of the meaning of the word SOLO. But creating (or using an available) private Group doesn't fix this, because the pool of Players available for Multicrew is ridiculously low. That is the reason for this Suggestion.

Nothing silly about it. Perfectly reasonable point. Many games substitute Ai for the parts that would be played by people in multiplayer. In fact really good games (like WW2 flight sims) make sure that everything that can be done in multiplayer is reasonably possible for the AI to do in Single Player such as multiplayer in aircraft like bombers, etc.

Sheer laziness of the Devs (or overlooked) to make an AI that can do this, that`s all. I hope they will make the effort and try it in future.

 

[CMDR Pugwash]

OP, you have a point. An interesting one too. I bet this feature might be very popular were it introduced to Solo mode.

They'd need to change the name though... Private Mode?

 

[verminstar]

Its called solo fer a reason...I have switched to open but I trust very few people until I know them before. In coop, I tend to play with players who I know and have played with before...randoms tend to mean a very unpredictable game so I tend to avoid randoms.

Ive only recently switched to open play after a year in solo...still wouldnt have any interest in multipew and I doubt anyone else would considering I role play an unarmed ship. There is literally nothing fer them to do and an extra pip is all but useless to the game I play. If someone wants to go sight seeing then cool, Im in the middle of about a dozen small but very colourful nebula right now as it happens, and non explorer types might like that sorta thing if they dont fancy the trip themselves but do wanna see the sights.

Have I just talked meself into multipew? I shall go and wash my mouth out with strong bleach ^

 

[NW3]

I'm Aware of the meaning of the word SOLO. But creating (or using an available) private Group doesn't fix this, because the pool of Players available for Multicrew is ridiculously low. That is the reason for this suggestion.

No one in Solo will be forced to Multicrew, just as in any other mode. So there is no drawback, only Advantages, AFAICS

The drawback is that this would require developer time to implement.

lol, it actually is really silly, it doesn't just sound it. People play in solo to get away from other players.

Exactly. If OP's suggestion were implemented, I don't think it would get much use.

Solo could easily be defined as a solo ship. Not just one person.

A private group does not offer the same pool of players as all players in solo. Not even the mobius private group will do that.

Also if you really want that solo solo experience (just you and your ship, not others and your ship), multi crew already is an opt-in. No harm done ignoring a feature like ignoring other modes.

I don't. I play there to get away from other player ships.

I play solo, to avoid the distractions of other players, especially chat. The harm is that other game improvements would be delayed, to implement this feature.

OP, you have a point. An interesting one too. I bet this feature might be very popular were it introduced to Solo mode.

MC isn't very popular in Open. Why would it be "very popular" in a mode where players wish to avoid player interaction?

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

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EDIT: I'm Aware of the meaning of the word SOLO. ...

I doubt it.

 

[Enderby]

If you could mc up with some other miserable sod so together you could fly about a bit in a strained, awkward silence - very occasionally punctuated by stilted, overly-formal social interactions - and end sessions with a vague, nebulous feeling of failure, I'd be well up for solo-multyingness.

 

[Xenith]

Also Solo players are antisocial and can't handle the unpredictable nature of human interaction.

Since we're making sweeping statements, Open players are murderous psychopaths who cannot curb their genocidal tendencies when confronted with other human beings. Generalising sure is fun, isn't it!

There should really have been only one group. The galaxy is big enough. The player base is so fragmented you hardly encounter anyone.

So said murderous psychopaths can scare more people away from an already niche game? Yeah, that would work so well, I can't see any problems with that at all... not one little bit, no sir!

 

[Friedenreich Xante]

Would a FDev mind having a word on this? I actually really missed this feature. This is a legit request. I want to be able to play TOGETHER with others against NO OTHERS (but NPCs). This would be fun. And I'm pretty sure that the offer will create the demand, in other words, if this is implemented, it could be used even more than Multicrew in OPEN!!! Really.

 

[Deadspin]

How hard is this to understand? Seriously.

If you want to play with a friend or two with NO OTHER PLAYERS in your instances, ever, then form a private group with that specific person(s).

Everything you're requesting is literally what the Private Group feature is for. This is ridiculous and entirely unworthy of even a pinch of developer attention.

Hell, the Fuel Rats already do this to ensure security upon delivery. You join that player's private group so that it's just the two of you in the instance and then the refueling commences.

This isn't rocket science. It's a video game.

 

[Friedenreich Xante]

How hard is this to understand? Seriously.

If you want to play with a friend or two with NO OTHER PLAYERS in your instances, ever, then form a private group with that specific person(s).

Everything you're requesting is literally what the Private Group feature is for. This is ridiculous and entirely unworthy of even a pinch of developer attention.

Hell, the Fuel Rats already do this to ensure security upon delivery. You join that player's private group so that it's just the two of you in the instance and then the refueling commences.

This isn't rocket science. It's a video game.

I don't want to play with a SPECIFIC friend. I want to play WITH anyone, but AGAINST no others. How is this hard to understand? My friends need to be online for me to play with them. In solo, there is always someone online.

 

[Ziljan]

Bringing Solo players to Open by letting them Multicrew from Solo might actually make MC marginally useful. So why not? Still, wings are so much better and much lower risk for the Pilot, not sure what incentive they have to open up their ships?

But yeah this should only work one way, with Solo crew porting to Open host ships. Never the other way around.

 

[YinYin]

The idea is actually solo joining solo only Ziljan. But I personally wouldn't mind solo joining open as well. Considering there is no risk for the crew. Other way around clearly wouldn't do as an open player probably doesn't want to join a solo session.

 

[Deadspin]

Mountains out of mole hills.

If you play in solo you should be able to accept the fact that multiplayer features available to those of us who chose to play in a multiplayer environment will not be available to you.

Solo or multiplayer. You can't have both.

 

[verminstar]

If you could mc up with some other miserable sod so together you could fly about a bit in a strained, awkward silence - very occasionally punctuated by stilted, overly-formal social interactions - and end sessions with a vague, nebulous feeling of failure, I'd be well up for solo-multyingness.

If thats what yer used to and ye like the quiet life, get offended by random outbursts of some the most foul and disgusting language ever concieved by a belfast man with anger issues, find it odd that find most the time Im actually just talking to meself in the third person perspective...and having arguments with me other personalities, are in any way offended by the absolute worst of the politically incorrect brigade or have even the remotest religious belief?

Dont ever enter a lobby that Im in

And just wait till I start singing...

If thats what multiplayer means to people nowadays then I am getting really old...things used to be way more fun before everyone started getting offended by everything ^

 

[Trekari]

Mountains out of mole hills.

If you play in solo you should be able to accept the fact that multiplayer features available to those of us who chose to play in a multiplayer environment will not be available to you.

Solo or multiplayer. You can't have both.

Actually you CAN have both. How? Because Frontier could make it so. Your objection (notably without any solid arguments to support it) is a circular reasoning logical fallacy, as well as a false dichotomy logical fallacy.

 

[Enderby]

If thats what yer used to and ye like the quiet life, get offended by random outbursts of some the most foul and disgusting language ever concieved by a belfast man with anger issues, find it odd that find most the time Im actually just talking to meself in the third person perspective...and having arguments with me other personalities, are in any way offended by the absolute worst of the politically incorrect brigade or have even the remotest religious belief?

Dont ever enter a lobby that Im in

And just wait till I start singing...

If thats what multiplayer means to people nowadays then I am getting really old...things used to be way more fun before everyone started getting offended by everything ^

I love foul and disgusting language. As long as I can counter with socially-inept responses belying a need to be accepted, I think we'd be fine.

 

[verminstar]

I love foul and disgusting language. As long as I can counter with socially-inept responses belying a need to be accepted, I think we'd be fine.

Excellent...thee and thy gonna get along ^

 

[MickyG1982]

I don't want to play with a SPECIFIC friend. I want to play WITH anyone, but AGAINST no others. How is this hard to understand? My friends need to be online for me to play with them. In solo, there is always someone online.

There are certain private groups with lots of PvE players that will let you do just that...

Now what was that guy's name from the matrix...

Solo is simply for those whom wish to play by themselves and not with other people. Hence why there is no multi crew, there is nobody else to play with in that mode.

 

[Friedenreich Xante]

There are certain private groups with lots of PvE players that will let you do just that...

Now what was that guy's name from the matrix...

Solo is simply for those whom wish to play by themselves and not with other people. Hence why there is no multi crew, there is nobody else to play with in that mode.

Yet to be proved.... by opening solo to multicrew

 

[Deadspin]

Actually you CAN have both. How? Because Frontier could make it so. Your objection (notably without any solid arguments to support it) is a circular reasoning logical fallacy, as well as a false dichotomy logical fallacy.

Only subjectively and only to you because you're seeking an alternative that you're emotionally invested in (or so it seems). My "solid" argument doesn't need a paragraph and a half of text to explain it. It's very simple, actually. Frontier made the decision to not include MC tools and mechanics in Solo, therefore if you would like to use MC features, you must leave solo.

Unlike you, my assumptions aren't based on a fantasy, they're based on 4 years of watching Frontier react to the requests and fantasies of their player base.