Why no Multicrew in Solo?

[Aussiedroid]

I'll leave the silly illogical arguments around this one to the others.

I'll simply say yes it should be available to join a MC from Solo or any mode. I am not going to change modes just to check a queue & certainly not going to sit in a mode waiting for players. Same can be said for CQC, which is why I don't play it anymore. At the very least it should show you what ships are MC in Solo so I can choose to change modes if I so feel like it. Most MC videos I have seen has been against NPCs anyways, not PvP so why limit it to just Open?

 

[Taluss]

Solo or multiplayer. You can't have both.

Incorrect. Most MMOs do have both. It's called PvE playing AGAINST ai WITH other players but never AGAINST other players. Elite does not have this and it should if its an MMO. This is one factor that make Call of Duty not a MMO.

And BTW the whole either/or is a false dichotomy, it nearly always possible to have either or both in most areas of life. Work or study? Many people do work and Study. Healthy food or tasty food? Guess what you can have healthy food that is foul or tasty. This black/white worldview is people wanting certainty of belief over truth so they lie to themselves. Reality is complex not simple, deal with it.

Yes Elite needs a dedicated mode where you can play WITH others without the possibility of griefers as players can't harm players.

 

[Friedenreich Xante]

Not hostility as such, just confusion more than anything. The very definition of physically playing with other people in any shape or form means its no longer solo mode, its a PG...and that already exists. So whats the question?

Ye cant have mc in solo and call it solo...because its no longer a solo experience...its a pg. Its not that difficult, is it?

You are too much focused on the name of the mode to see how it could improve the gaming experience. Try to ignore the name (it's really just a name) and focus on the concept, which is a mode where there can only be NPC foes and no other player controlled ships and where you could then optionally choose to invite other players into your ship (or join theirs) to play this very mode. This is very different from the private group concept as you can see.

I cannot understand how a suggestion that has so few (none) drawback on the gaming experience of anyone and is a totally optional feature you can choose from triggers so much opposition. I mean, I would understand if some would not care. But refuse it downright? I'm appalled.

 

[ZeroAi]

Hello Cmdrs,

now this might Sound silly to some of you, but hear me out. Seriously.

Multicrew is basically allowing real Players to Play with you. By allowing other solo Players into your ship (or accessing other ships in solo), you basically Combine all the Spirit of the Solo mode (no real antagonists, no griefers, more NPCs) with the advantages of multicrew (playing together with others).

Most Play in Solo AFAIK, but can't use Multicrew. If you don't want to Play in Open (or in a PG, but there you don't stand a Chance finding a Crew), you are basically kept away from multicrew.

What are your thoughts on this?

EDIT: I'm Aware of the meaning of the word SOLO. But creating (or using an available) private Group doesn't fix this, because the pool of Players available for Multicrew is ridiculously low. That is the reason for this Suggestion.

I understand your point which is a good one: you would like access to all the folks who want to play in multicrew, without the greifers of open.

However, as you know solo is for those who don't want to play with other humans, and I use it often when I'm remote playing and can't chat.

That said, I think a better idea would be to implement a new Open PvE mode.

This could be a different choice from the in game start menu OR a choice you make when entering Open (as to whether you want to engage in PvP or not.)

But please keep solo for solo play, which also btw helps with the console requirements that mp is only allowed with a xbl or psp subscription.

 

[JonnyC0mbat]

He's got a point. He's in Solo mode without Chewie.

 

[JonnyC0mbat]

I've done it again..... I killed a thread

p

 

[FoxTwo]

I'm in solo mode cuz I'm antisocial... don't need no multicrew!

Ok seriously though, I disagree with the OP's point of view. I think Solo should remains Solo. At most, give us NPC wingmen (which I'm still waiting on), I'll be happy. But if I wanted to Multi-crew, I'll create a pvt grp and get my friends in.

 

[Friedenreich Xante]

I'm in solo mode cuz I'm antisocial... don't need no multicrew!

Ok seriously though, I disagree with the OP's point of view. I think Solo should remains Solo. At most, give us NPC wingmen (which I'm still waiting on), I'll be happy. But if I wanted to Multi-crew, I'll create a pvt grp and get my friends in.

I understand your point which is a good one: you would like access to all the folks who want to play in multicrew, without the greifers of open.

However, as you know solo is for those who don't want to play with other humans, and I use it often when I'm remote playing and can't chat.

That said, I think a better idea would be to implement a new Open PvE mode.

This could be a different choice from the in game start menu OR a choice you make when entering Open (as to whether you want to engage in PvP or not.)

But please keep solo for solo play, which also btw helps with the console requirements that mp is only allowed with a xbl or psp subscription.

Solo is not only Chosen by People who want to be alone. I mentioned a reason with BH CG's, and there are others. Implementing Multicrew in Solo won't prevent anyone who wants to stay legit alone to be alone, since Multicrew is optional, like in any other mode. It will only enable those who are in Solo for other reasons to Access Multicrew. Why punishing People who use Solo mode by restricting their Access to a great Feature FD took horrendous efforts into implementing?

This really has no drawback I can think of. The only Argument hold against until now is "it's called Solo", which is a fallacy as noone is Forced to use multicrew in either mode. The sole Name of the mode shouldn't prevent us from enhancing the gaming experience for Players who would surely use MC in said mode. This thread has shown that there is a demand.


BTW this thread can be moved to suggestions since my thread there has been closed for duplicate. I opened a new thread there because I thought it was more appropriate there. Sorry Mods for the inconvenience

 

[Friedenreich Xante]

Then, it wouldn't be solo, by definition it would be a private group...

It wouldn't since there are no other Player piloted ships than yours.

 

[Vorxian]

I see where OP is coming from.. but, i did chuckle a little

Multiplayer in Solo mode..

It may be a more cogent request to have a tickbox that allows your private group to interface with a general MC broadcast, other groups and open combined.

Multiplayer in solo.. it's a good one

 

[FoxTwo]

Solo is not only Chosen by People who want to be alone. I mentioned a reason with BH CG's, and there are others. Implementing Multicrew in Solo won't prevent anyone who wants to stay legit alone to be alone, since Multicrew is optional, like in any other mode. It will only enable those who are in Solo for other reasons to Access Multicrew. Why punishing People who use Solo mode by restricting their Access to a great Feature FD took horrendous efforts into implementing?

Exactly why Solo should remain Solo, for the people who actually play solo to be solo. Disable Multi-crew completely, we don't care. Maybe FDevs should just do that - disable Multicrew in Solo mode and end this.

People who go into solo to avoid doing stuff they'd rather do in multi-player environments (pvt grp, open) are just abusing the mode that we solo-ers cherish the most.

EDIT - I'd even go as far as to say personally I'd prefer Solo mode to have a different galaxy than the one in pvt grp/open. Basically it's "don't touch my galaxy!" But since it's not that way, I just learn to live with it - just like I learnt to live with multi-crew being available in Soio even though it's a stupid feature to have in Solo

 

[sollisb]

That said, I think a better idea would be to implement a new Open PvE mode.

The the 'git gud' crowd would throw their engineered modules out of the cradles

 

[StiTch]

Apart from the fact that the word "solo" means "without anyone else", I'm grinning my backside off watching a PvE player trying to explain to other PvErs why their game mode should include other people.

The irony is thick enough to be cut with a knife.

 

[Vorxian]

Apart from the fact that the word "solo" means "without anyone else", I'm grinning my backside off watching a PvE player trying to explain to other PvErs why their game mode should include other people.

The irony is thick enough to be cut with a knife.

Been doing a good share of the grinning myself! I get what the OP is getting at, but... it's SOLO! ! ! ! !

 

[CMDR Pugwash]

Good job no one mentioned poo!

 

[Trekari]

Notably, the only argument presented against this idea is "BUT IT'S SOLO."

Hardly a compelling argument.

 

[SeaFireliv]

Notably, the only argument presented against this idea is "BUT IT'S SOLO."

Hardly a compelling argument.

This. And why do they argue against it? It wouldn`t hurt Multiplayer gamers at all if Solo players also had an AI version of multicrew. This arguing against something that wouldn`t harm any other User always boggles my mind. It`s plain stupid.

 

[Schmack]

Notably, the only argument presented against this idea is "BUT IT'S SOLO."

Hardly a compelling argument.

The argument is illogical. It doesn't really merit a logical response.

 

[Schmack]

This. And why do they argue against it? It wouldn`t hurt Multiplayer gamers at all if Solo players also had an AI version of multicrew. This arguing against something that wouldn`t harm any other User always boggles my mind. It`s plain stupid.

AI? No, the argument was about being able to see who's playing Solo so you would have a deeper reservoir of players to solicit for multicrew with. I understand wanting to multicrew, but not at the expense of tapping into the privacy of Solo.

We already have AI crewmembers. They make too much money.

 

[Schmack]

By the way, I find in amusing that folks say "I don't want to have to switch modes to hook up with multicrew" but they'll mode switch all day to stack missions at a station.