Why Not Play Another Game?
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I've started playing EVE again and am enjoying it effective and sane CnP system and all, and as a bonus PLEX is only 3 million isk these days or 5 bucks per.
Just to complete your list, OP:
- Evochron Legacy, first person, VR-ready, Elite-ish project with an actual space flight model, planetary landings, station builder, online, etc. Maintained by a very ambitious guy who dues this since ages (it's love, not a job). Also has its flaws, gfx is not that jaw dropping of course. Still worth a try.
- Hellion. Still very buggy, but so cool in many aspects. Very different from Elite, but already has space legs, station construction (with manual docking of parts, very cool), but also some 1st person pew pew.
- Evochron Legacy, first person, VR-ready, Elite-ish project with an actual space flight model, planetary landings, station builder, online, etc. Maintained by a very ambitious guy who dues this since ages (it's love, not a job). Also has its flaws, gfx is not that jaw dropping of course. Still worth a try.
- Hellion. Still very buggy, but so cool in many aspects. Very different from Elite, but already has space legs, station construction (with manual docking of parts, very cool), but also some 1st person pew pew.
Indeed. X does economy and station ownership top notch.
If it had ED flight model... it would be pure gold.
Plus the Xenons are awesome
I'm sorry, but even after this all I'm getting is you complaining about other people complaining. I mean, why bother with the forums at all if its mostly garbage? You think people should leave the game if they don't like it, (and I agree), but you seem to not like most of the criticisms on the forums and yet you stay.
If its the casual "mostly useless" posts like "Im done" or "This is trash" then I get it, but you have to understand that FD put these forums here for a reason and while most are not as articulate with others in their responses, its still FD's responsibility to pull data and feedback from it and try to make a better product. If there are 100 posts in a day saying "grinding is bad," and giving absolutely no detail as to why they think that, then yeah it sucks for us to read but FD has to decide how to weigh that and how to make a change, if they see fit.
I'd actually encourage you to keep making your well thought out concepts as I know I would enjoy reading them even if i didnt agree with them. I can see that you're a bit jaded, and my advice is to get past it. Take the mountains of salt with a grain of salt and do your own thing because the more well thought out posts, the better. Just understand that theres plenty of room for the not so well thought out posts too.
You want space games suggestions? Sure, in alphabetical order my favorites: Empyrion: Gal Surv, Everspace, FTL, Freespace 2 with a ton of massive mods, Freelancer with Crossfire Mod, Homeworld Remastered, Kerbal Space Program, Rebel Galaxy, Rimworld, Sins of a solar Empire, Space Engineers, Starbound, Subnautica, X3 Albion Prelude with the Litcube's Universe mod. I don't have time to play Elite with so many awesome space games.
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Perhaps Planet Nomads would be more to your liking?
Thing is, when it comes to space-type games, most are about the pew-pew because they sell.
Few are about the simulation of space, because let's face it, space is vast, empty and pretty boring.
They're very niche games, few and far between. Elite is also still a work-very-much-in-progress.
Thing is, when it comes to space-type games, most are about the pew-pew because they sell.
Few are about the simulation of space, because let's face it, space is vast, empty and pretty boring.
They're very niche games, few and far between. Elite is also still a work-very-much-in-progress.
Why not download the original Elite from the Store? It is free, and you still get to fly a space ship from the First Person Perspective!
Indeed. X does economy and station ownership top notch.
If it had ED flight model... it would be pure gold.
Plus the Xenons are awesome
That's the compromise with X simplistic flight model restricted galaxy and a huge focus on mogulling, ED's the opposite.
I play both and just switch whenever I feel like it. Also Freespace2 for singleplayer campaigns and Alien Isolation for space legs and you've got it all covered.
For legs I play the long dark. Nails the survival atmosphere. I legs in ED got remotely close to it in term of inetsion and creeping tension it would be awesome.
For campaign I played IWar 2 several times. Hell of a game.
Looking forward to try alien isolation. Seems nice and creepy.
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" Looking forward to try alien isolation. Seems nice and creepy. "
Just don`t play it in vr or you will break some stuff(in real life i mean, at some moment i pushed my mouse buttons so hard i broken them).
Game use mostly atmosphere and tension. A lot like penumbra(penumbra players will understand what i mean). Mostly 98% of time here is no cheap jumpscares
Just don`t play it in vr or you will break some stuff(in real life i mean, at some moment i pushed my mouse buttons so hard i broken them).
Game use mostly atmosphere and tension. A lot like penumbra(penumbra players will understand what i mean). Mostly 98% of time here is no cheap jumpscares
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Alien Isolation is absolutely great.
I liked IWAR2 but thought the semi Newtonian elliptical jousting was a bit naff (maybe I needed to git-gud).
Alien isolation is more of space legs trembling as you cower in a corner hoping "IT" hasn't found you. Mrs Stigbob finds it hilarious that I jump so much playing it, she says it's the only thing she's ever known to scare me (except her).
EDIT :
For X3TC I use the bonus plugin package, automated traders, afterburner and more you will need to read up on the commodity traders to get them running.
https://www.egosoft.com/download/x3tc/bonus_en.php
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The benchmark Elite experience has to be FFED3D - that's the most advanced, most elite-ish game currently available. Pioneer comes a close second, but falls short due to the complete absence of fixed-beam CQB. FFED3D has it all - thrilling action, no barriers or limits or transitions, all the fun of real unfettered spaceflight, with realistic gravity and basic physics and celestial mechanics, and the most intense combat since classic Elite on the Beeb.
ED wouldn't even make it onto my list of elite-alikes - it would be on a separate list of 'lame & unfulfilling wannabes', alongside Oolite, the X series, Wing Commander and Freelancer etc. etc. ED just isn't very elite-ish, and certainly isn't capable of any of the kinds of gameplay i've always sought from the series. virtually zero experience of spaceflight, the only thing more pathetic than its 'spaceships' is its combat, or lack thereof, but which is probably just as well given the comical abilities of the so-called 'spaceships'..
So long as you're not a graphics snob, FFED3D really is the best, and most authentic game of Elite you can play. Furthermore if you actually enjoy ED's excuse for 'combat', i'd definitely recommend giving Pioneer a closer look - since it's basically proper Elite, just with ED's tedious and agonizingly drawn-out slow-pitching contests instead of Elite's more traditional high-intensity CQB.
But if you're seriously setting the bar at ED, then... yeah.. no, sorry - that's not really Elite you're even playing there. More like the hideous offspring of X & Oolite with a few RPG / MP tropes thrown in.
ETA: some examples of gameplay vids: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrny-ysVxM-DSn3mh-R9Sww/videos?sort=dd&view=0&shelf_id=0
ED wouldn't even make it onto my list of elite-alikes - it would be on a separate list of 'lame & unfulfilling wannabes', alongside Oolite, the X series, Wing Commander and Freelancer etc. etc. ED just isn't very elite-ish, and certainly isn't capable of any of the kinds of gameplay i've always sought from the series. virtually zero experience of spaceflight, the only thing more pathetic than its 'spaceships' is its combat, or lack thereof, but which is probably just as well given the comical abilities of the so-called 'spaceships'..
So long as you're not a graphics snob, FFED3D really is the best, and most authentic game of Elite you can play. Furthermore if you actually enjoy ED's excuse for 'combat', i'd definitely recommend giving Pioneer a closer look - since it's basically proper Elite, just with ED's tedious and agonizingly drawn-out slow-pitching contests instead of Elite's more traditional high-intensity CQB.
But if you're seriously setting the bar at ED, then... yeah.. no, sorry - that's not really Elite you're even playing there. More like the hideous offspring of X & Oolite with a few RPG / MP tropes thrown in.
ETA: some examples of gameplay vids: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrny-ysVxM-DSn3mh-R9Sww/videos?sort=dd&view=0&shelf_id=0
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I'm actually just reviving my original p75 so I can get the full FFE experience, in DOS, on hardware meant for it...
The rest of it? I can't agree with.
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So off you pop and play it, everyone's a winner.
A) Someones got to call people on their bull and B) That moment you find one of those rare topics or a discussion worth piling in on. MMMPHM!
In fact you hit the damn nail on the head. Most of the topics are those 100 posts of 'grind is bad' with no supporting details. Just someone pitching a fit about how something is too hard and wastes their 'valuable' time.
B* please. If your time was so valuable why the are you wasting it playing a video game? I play games to fill the void left open by time I'm not spending on something else. Like working or personal upkeep. It's wasted time regardless of whether or not I'm playing Elite Dangerous so don't act like your time is valuable if you've got it to be spending on games.
People don't think. They don't spend time thinking things through and understanding how things work in Elite. They just react. Hell they don't even WANT to think things through. Their time is so valuable that instead of spending it wisely they'd rather use it to threaten a company to cater to them. All over a bunch of code.
When someone takes the time to sit down, think things through, and then write out their problems. Most of the time I'm more then willing to help them out. Anyone here on the forum who's a ED vet is willing to help rooks rise up. But if they're just going to cry and react, there's not much we can do to help them. They don't even WANT help. They just want attention.
If they spent less time reacting and more time thinking, they'd probably enjoy Elite a lot more. Elite Dangerous is just one of those games that makes you engage with it. Perhaps not in the manner your wanted but having to turn on your brain to play a game is a foreign concept. If more people engaged this way, we'd see a lot less of this white noise and far more discussion.
Unfortunately that is not going to be the case. People are going to refuse to engage Elite like this. They would much prefer to be entertained then entertain themselves.
And because of that, there will always be a need for people like me, willing to step up and remind people that Elite has it's good points too. And if you're going to take a swing at me just because I'm willing to remind people that Elite can be enjoyed, I'm going to swing back. And I'm not going to be nice about it.
Also who says I've quit looking for improvements just because I'm jaded? Most of what I can think up is ether already in the pipeline per Frontier or has been suggested with someone else in a manner that I agree with or have suggested improvements on.
Like I said, I take my time in making sure I have something that can stand out. That means I'm not firing off half baked ideas every 15 seconds as soon as they pop into my head. It takes time to come up with something that isn't ether already is in development (so no point in suggesting it, just have to wait) or already suggested (no point in making a duplicate topic) and flesh it out so it stands out.
Counterpoint:
Playing Elite Dangerous is very much like making love to a beautiful woman...