Yeah. WHY CAN'T I JUST BUY FUEL!?! It's way more fun in creative mode, but still gets boring and repetitive fast.
Why Not Play Another Game?
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Yeah. WHY CAN'T I JUST BUY FUEL!?! It's way more fun in creative mode, but still gets boring and repetitive fast.
I've sorta moved over to PUBG for the time being. I think the last straw, for me, was the new Guardians modules grind. Nope, not gonna do an EIGHTH grind (Trade rank, Combat rank, Exploration rank, Empire/Federation rankings, Engineers, PowerPlay, NEW Engineers, now Guardians). Once actual content comes in to replace "grind-as-content" then I'll re-evaluate.
At least with PUBG you know what ya gotta do (get a gun, then kill players). Simple.
At least with PUBG you know what ya gotta do (get a gun, then kill players). Simple.
Just a question, why did you feel you had to do the Guardian grind and that it was the game breaker for you?
I guess I am in the very small minority here, but if there is something in the game I don't want to do because of the grind, I umm just don't do it. Yes I miss out on some goodies, but it doesn't stop me playing. Having the latest super weapon or uber module wouldn't add much to my specific style of gameplay.
PUBG is a very good game, they've done a great job developing it and stayed focused.
I'm addicted to exploring Subnautica right now, it's one of the best exploration games I've ever played. Can't wait for the arctic expansion they're working on.
For FD, grind is new content. They should come up with something different. PUBG is developing new stuff all the time that, while keeping the basic mechanics, change the game immensely. Examples: 3rd person vs 1st person. Forested map vs Desert map (and now a smaller jungle map with brutal CQB engagements).
Oh yeah, actual multi-player teams/squads that work! 4 people in one vehicle, at the same time, driving down a road! WITCHCRAFT!
Edit #4: And stealing other players' stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLHke1RitP0
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The first problem Frontier, is they ignore problems and instead develop more content to place on top of bad game design.
When players give them feedback. They ignore it. Because, Frontier believes they know better than their customers.
When other games show success and build on ventures that prove to be successful. Frontier actively ignores it, because they want to be unique like a snow flake. Their most successful CG to date did not even meet 11,000 players with in a week across 3 platforms.
They have lied to their player and customer base repeatedly. They labeled quality of life changes but introduced more grind. They said they would respect and appreciate a player's time. Instead we have more grind for the sake of grind. Just so they can say "We have this many active players."
No, the honest truth is Frontier has never sat down even once to actually consider the Player's since the kickstarter ended. So much could of been so much better. Sure, I got a game I can fly around in space and go pew pew with my friends. But at the end of the day. That is all it is too.
When players give them feedback. They ignore it. Because, Frontier believes they know better than their customers.
When other games show success and build on ventures that prove to be successful. Frontier actively ignores it, because they want to be unique like a snow flake. Their most successful CG to date did not even meet 11,000 players with in a week across 3 platforms.
They have lied to their player and customer base repeatedly. They labeled quality of life changes but introduced more grind. They said they would respect and appreciate a player's time. Instead we have more grind for the sake of grind. Just so they can say "We have this many active players."
No, the honest truth is Frontier has never sat down even once to actually consider the Player's since the kickstarter ended. So much could of been so much better. Sure, I got a game I can fly around in space and go pew pew with my friends. But at the end of the day. That is all it is too.
Well there's ya problem, you are comparing two entirely different games that have zero correlation with each other except that they are well GAMES. ED has never been a game you can jump on and play for an hour with a result at the end. PUBG on the other hand is exactly that, you have a finite time period with a conclusion at the end - then you repeat the same process again and again and again.
As for calling new maps in a MP shooter new content, well since every MP shooter has to release new maps (often that is one of their main financial grabs). But the gameplay remains exactly the same, just the background changes. Hmm what other differences, oh yes, PUBG is ONLY a MP game, there are no bots, so yes, the MP aspects of the game are strong, because they have to be! Yet ED has the somewhat unique experience that you can choose whether you inhabit the system with other players or not, whilst still being able to participate in the entire game.
You might as well compare ED to FIFA, both are computer games so what doesn't ED have a football!
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Well said cmdr; this post was the most balanced one ive seen of white knights or any other in sometime.
...and speaking of playing other games, my assistant is calling as my advanced natural med shipment/aka coke by the fake news outlets-- is ready for delivery by one of those nutty but fun gta sea planes. And I finally mastered that pre git gud, damned cargobob for vehicle delivery
The other day I tried some piracy at the CG. The bug that prevents stolen cargo from appearing in your hold after the victim has departed the area is still around. Like, what's that now, 2 years or so? So sad, and yet we have a new Guardians grindfest for folks. Yay!
You raised 5 interesting points by your number of paragraphs:
1. I believe FDev is using the limited resources to intro new content in the hope we shall ignore the problems that majority of players have avoided.
2. Any company welcomes feedback except they are not obliged to act upon them if it's not in the direction of their product's development.
3. Being different and distinguishable from your competitors is one of the reasons why this game still has a significant and loyal player base.
4. This is where most of the community's contention lies and I believe FDev has to take some responsibility. I believe they may have over-promised some things.
5. Ditto with paragraph 4 except FDev has grown into a bigger company producing more products with more stakeholders hence experiencing "growing pains" - its resources and leaders have not grown or adapted as fast (spread thin)
Just my 2 cents.
All in all, this thread is great!
I enjoyed the OP's comments and several of the others which evidence their love for the Elite games and their hopes for the future. +rep to all of them.
On the other hand, there were a few posters who just don't understand or agree with the first little bit of Frontier's vision, the original Elite games or the work in progress which is Elite Dangerous. To them, I would say that the "Why not play another game?" title is a valid question.
I enjoyed the OP's comments and several of the others which evidence their love for the Elite games and their hopes for the future. +rep to all of them.
On the other hand, there were a few posters who just don't understand or agree with the first little bit of Frontier's vision, the original Elite games or the work in progress which is Elite Dangerous. To them, I would say that the "Why not play another game?" title is a valid question.
I've opten thought the same thing. I wish there was more competition.
I have a problem with people who believe to know Fdevs visions and tell other people to rather play anther game (and then these people usually tell us, they just wanted to give some good advice, as if saying "p.. off" with nice words makes it less rude and more an advice)
Let's talk again about Braben's visions after you watched the plenty of videos from the crowdfunding phase, where he sells his visions. Videos where he talks about "game hunting" on planet surfaces. Where he sais that he wouldn't want a game where you just can land on empty planets and cant see much more than a desert.
Oh my. there were so many visions. Go. Watch these videos. And if you don't like the game he describes there: You know what.
Edit: Here's the first link I quickly googled for you. Guess you can find more of you want to: https://youtu.be/TImS0NS_h8E
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I have a problem with people who believe to know Fdevs visions and tell other people to rather play anther game (and then these people usually tell us, they just wanted to give some good advice, as if saying "p.. off" with nice words makes it less rude and more an advice)
Let's talk again about Braben's visions after you watched the plenty of videos from the crowdfunding phase, where he sells his visions. Videos where he talks about "game hunting" on planet surfaces. Where he sais that he wouldn't want a game where you just can land on empty planets and cant see much more than a desert.
Oh my. there were so many visions. Go. Watch these videos. And if you don't like the game he describes there: You know what.
I don't base game purchases on "visions". I base them on what the game actually is at the time I buy it.
It wasn't me who started argumenting about visions.
Really? Because YOU don't want to play something else frontier has to do what you want?
You also mentioned star citizen in the first line i'm going to have to say the op is an exhausted star citizen faithful in death throws looking for something to cling onto. Sorry that's a bit sad but probably true.
You also mentioned star citizen in the first line i'm going to have to say the op is an exhausted star citizen faithful in death throws looking for something to cling onto. Sorry that's a bit sad but probably true.
I don't own, and haven't played Star Citizen.
Sorry about that i stand corrected then.
It was the only thing i could think of after reading this:I personally don't think its healthy at all to expect a company to satisfy addictive personalities. Game companies making addictive mechanics are nearly always for nefarious purposes, it left the art of game making a long time ago.
I don't want to leave you without a suggestion, so put it this way, elite can be neverending, but you need to have the intention of making it up as you go along, your own self. Just stop wishing content that is not in the game is in the game (until it actually is, who knows what those secret 2 content items this year will bring). Or is possible to not be frustrated and actually have a really good time if you just change what you do. We cant make elite as players, so thats it really.
Far Cry 5 is good.