Why the Rex and Spino Size should be changed in JWE2

[MarcWP]

Well, everyone else involved with the franchise says it’s canon, and someone who’s worked on the show said the size estimate I gave is the unofficially official size. Just accept the fact Spino is larger now. It’s not really a big deal

Could you link to everyone in the franchise stating it's canon? And "unofficially official"? That doesn't even make any sense. Either something is official or unofficial. Can't ever be both.

I don't care if the Spino is larger. We really don't know much about the actual size of the animal at all, since we don't have complete fossils. And like you said, no big deal. I agree. So why did you make a post about it

 

[Snieves0426]

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camp cretaceous its 5,48m tall (head). 7 tall (sail) 4.87m tall (hip) and 16.7 m longView attachment 324425
Its only 3cm smaller in height only change it needs is to be 7m tall (sail) and 16.7m long

Those measurements are no longer accurate, I measured the model in blender and got 16.5 meters long, 5.9-6 meters tall, and 7 meters at the sail.

 

[Snieves0426]

Could you link to everyone in the franchise stating it's canon? And "unofficially official"? That doesn't even make any sense. Either something is official or unofficial. Can't ever be both.

I don't care if the Spino is larger. We really don't know much about the actual size of the animal at all, since we don't have complete fossils. And like you said, no big deal. I agree. So why did you make a post about it

Camp Cretaceous has been canon since it’s inception. That’s like saying Star Wars the Clone Wars isn’t canon because it’s animated. That’s really stupid to say, and Colin has even come out and said CC is film canon, because it is. Until universal says otherwise, it’s film canon, and they’ve come out and clearly said CC is film canon. Because it should be changed to reflect the new canon size? It’s not that hard to realize that. And Chris Sears, the guy who made the model for CC came out and said my size measurements are accurate to the model he made. He deemed it unofficially official.

 

[Thoro]

Ontop of all the discussions:

We're talking about TINY changes. Do you go ingame, wait for the animals to stand side-by-side, pull out a ruler and measure their heights? I don't think so and that's why it doesn't really matter, as long as they aren't that proportionally wrong to each other. Which they aren't, really.

Also: CC isn't nearly as popular as the films. So 90% of people would actually be confused if they saw a gigantic spinosaurus roaming around. Demanding CC values looks to me that someone just wants their own favorite to be exactly the way they think without considering the vast majority of people that watch the movies.

 

[Mosek]

Those measurements are no longer accurate, I measured the model in blender and got 16.5 meters long, 5.9-6 meters tall, and 7 meters at the sail.

Human can be any size so your measurements are not 100% accurate

 

[Snieves0426]

Human can be any size so your measurements are not 100% accurate

The measure is 100% accurate. The original measurement you showed was done with the original guy using a 6’0 human for reference instead of a 6’2 human, which is the one used for scale in the model Chris Sears has provided.

 

[Mosek]

The measure is 100% accurate. The original measurement you showed was done with the original guy using a 6’0 human for reference instead of a 6’2 human, which is the one used for scale in the model Chris Sears has provided.

So spinosaurus is 5.64m tall from the head and 7.16 tall from the sail (6.2 = 1m88)

188 × 3 = 5.64 (just admit your size are not accurate) owen is 1.73 on this chart

Rexy ( 5-2 tall. 13.5 long) still tall compare to your calculations

(this proposed resize picture is wrong size☝)

 

[Ozric]

Remember to discuss the post and not the poster. Let's keep it clean please.

 

[therokaiju]

This is the correct measurement.

This is off by a small margin thanks to pixels having margin of error

The blender measurement was made using the official corrected model that was uploaded by the man who made the model for CC. After this the only real changes that were done were coloring and details, as Chris and JP Balmet each said. They also said the size scene to scene in the show are consistent. I talked to the one who made that white image and used pixels to measure the Spino and he said it was off by a small margin because pixels have room for error. He agreed that the image I linked above is the more accurate measurement. Btw CC is canon confirmed, AND Universal are the ones who provide the sizes for official material so that size we see the Spino using in CC is what it is meant to be.

That blue FK size chart with Owen in it has each square at 3 feet minimum, if Rexy is 17 feet than the Spino pasted onto the chart is still 19 feet tall minimum.

Next time don't be disingenous and use a small verson of that white image as some sort of proof of measurement.

 

[Thoro]

But what about the size in JP3, which is the base spino. Is that comepletely out of the window or intentionally forgotten? The CC spino also has a different color.

The greatest portion of the players won't even relate to anything CC. So I think the Spinosaurus should get a CC specific model + textures, just like they did with the Giga and the Dreadnoughtus for example. If you think about that, it makes perfect sense. That's like making the base Rex based on CC all the while the game is based upon JW and uses that as a base.

It doesn't make the sense, artistically and logically to change the base spino to the CC values. It should get a CC specific skin and remodel, just like all the outliers in the series, just like Big Eatie or whatever they are called.

 

[therokaiju]

But what about the size in JP3, which is the base spino. Is that comepletely out of the window or intentionally forgotten? The CC spino also has a different color.

The greatest portion of the players won't even relate to anything CC. So I think the Spinosaurus should get a CC specific model + textures, just like they did with the Giga and the Dreadnoughtus for example. If you think about that, it makes perfect sense. That's like making the base Rex based on CC all the while the game is based upon JW and uses that as a base.

It doesn't make the sense, artistically and logically to change the base spino to the CC values. It should get a CC specific skin and remodel, just like all the outliers in the series, just like Big Eatie or whatever they are called.

With them seemingly refusing to fix the T-rex and the Spino, I have to agree that the next best option is for the CC Spino can be added as an alt skin with a dif size. I honestly think Rexy, Big Eatie, CC Spino, Buck, and Doe should all be a separate skin with their own size and not just have them share the common size with the other clones of their species.

We know what the average size of an InGen T-rex is for example, it is 15 feet tall and 40 feet long so every time we create a T-rex it should be that size.. but when we finally acquire Rexy or Big Eatie who are unique they should be 17 feet tall and 44 feet long(Big Eatie looks to be the exact size Rexy is, just dif color scheme and age and this is possible because they are all cloned from Roberta). I think unique individuals should all have unique skins with their specific sizes compared to other clones of their species.

Now Spino was 2 years old and smaller with a more younger and brighter color in JP3 so that can stay as its own skin, but 15 years later it is now much larger and has a more faded color scheme so I agree it should have its own unique skin separate to its JP3 self.

 

[Mosek]

This is the correct measurement.

This is off by a small margin thanks to pixels having margin of error

The blender measurement was made using the official corrected model that was uploaded by the man who made the model for CC. After this the only real changes that were done were coloring and details, as Chris and JP Balmet each said. They also said the size scene to scene in the show are consistent. I talked to the one who made that white image and used pixels to measure the Spino and he said it was off by a small margin because pixels have room for error. He agreed that the image I linked above is the more accurate measurement. Btw CC is canon confirmed, AND Universal are the ones who provide the sizes for official material so that size we see the Spino using in CC is what it is meant to be.

That blue FK size chart with Owen in it has each square at 3 feet minimum, if Rexy is 17 feet than the Spino pasted onto the chart is still 19 feet tall minimum.

Next time don't be disingenous and use a small verson of that white image as some sort of proof of measurement.

Rexy is 3 time owen(1.73m) and the snieves0426 said the human is 6.2 (1.88m) 188×3 = 5.64 but we can say its inbetween 5.64m - 5.8m i think frontier would get more informations about this from universal than us

 

[JPDC95]

Even if the "conclusion" image are the canon sizes (which I'm not contesting that they're not), I wouldn't like to see the Spino THAT much bigger than the Rex. I think it's enough to downsize the Rex and leave the Spino as is.

Agree, T-Rex is only one need downsized, as for Spino is still same. No need for request upsized spino

 

[Mosek]

I agree. Spinosaurus ingame is 5.45m tall. from my calculations on spino in camp cretaceous is 5.67 there only 21 dm difference but if frontier change their size (universal will give th right one and if it was already then dont need to change)

 

[Snieves0426]

I agree. Spinosaurus ingame is 5.45m tall. from my calculations on spino in camp cretaceous is 5.64 there only 21 dm difference but if frontier change their size (universal will give th right one and if it was already then dont need to change)

Again that report is wrong. Chris Sears, the guy who released the model, stated he compared the Spino to a 6 ft 2 Chris Pratt model. My size measurements are accurate.

 

[Mosek]

Again that report is wrong. Chris Sears, the guy who released the model, stated he compared the Spino to a 6 ft 2 Chris Pratt model. My size measurements are accurate.

Chris prat is (6.2) 1m89 but the human here is two block so 2 meters 2 x 3 = 6m (chris prat dont even hit two block) around 1m89 × 3 = 5.67 so your stament are still wrong

 

[Snieves0426]

Chris prat is (6.2) 1m89 but the human here is two block so 2 meters 2 x 3 = 6m (chris prat dont even hit two block) around 1m89 × 3 = 5.67 so your stament are still wrong

Hey, take it up with Chris Sears. He said the human was 6.2.

 

[Mosek]

Hey, take it up with Chris Sears. He said the human was 6.2.

Yeah stil 6.2 = 189 (189 × 3 = 567) so spino in CC is 5m67 ( your calculations about 6 meters spino is still wrong) and if they change they won't listen to us but universel that has the true size

 

[PCMR4Life]

No, there is no need for a change in size in either of them. The size they are now is fine. They shouldn't be changed. I thought people had gotten over whining and complaining about the size of the Spino and Rex back when the first game was released. I guess that particular whine fest never ends. Why are all these fan communities full of people that do nothing but while and complain about things? It's really a turn off. It makes people not want to associate with them.

Anyway, the models used in the first game and this game are based on CGI models used in the movies. That means the Spino and Rex game models are based on the movies and not Camp Cretaceous. The Spino model is based on the CGI model from JP3 which Frontier had access to thanks to Universal. The Rex model is based on the JW or JP CGI model depending on which in game skin you are looking at or using. Frontier advertised a more authentic JW and JP experience with this game, so I imagine the sizes are accurate. Probably more accurate than they were in the first game.

If I remember the JP lore correctly the JP3 Rex is supposed to be a sub adult. The Spino is supposedly fully grown. That's why the Rex is smaller. At least according to what I have heard.

So no, they should leave the sizes alone.

 

[Snieves0426]

No, there is no need for a change in size in either of them. The size they are now is fine. They shouldn't be changed. I thought people had gotten over whining and complaining about the size of the Spino and Rex back when the first game was released. I guess that particular whine fest never ends. Why are all these fan communities full of people that do nothing but while and complain about things? It's really a turn off. It makes people not want to associate with them.

Anyway, the models used in the first game and this game are based on CGI models used in the movies. That means the Spino and Rex game models are based on the movies and not Camp Cretaceous. The Spino model is based on the CGI model from JP3 which Frontier had access to thanks to Universal. The Rex model is based on the JW or JP CGI model depending on which in game skin you are looking at or using. Frontier advertised a more authentic JW and JP experience with this game, so I imagine the sizes are accurate. Probably more accurate than they were in the first game.

If I remember the JP lore correctly the JP3 Rex is supposed to be a sub adult. The Spino is supposedly fully grown. That's why the Rex is smaller. At least according to what I have heard.

So no, they should leave the sizes alone.

No, the Rex and Acro size needs to be changed at least. The Rex is way too big at 14.5 meters and 5.8 meters tall. should be 13.5 meters long and 5.2 meters tall and should reflect the size of Rexy. The Acro is 14 meters long and 5 meters tall and should be 12.5- 13 meters long and 5 meters tall. So, yes the sizes of at least Acro and Rex should be changed. And why do you have an issue with Spinosaurus size being changed? It’s only 4 more feet long and 2 feet taller no need to get y about it, as they also fixed the size of the JP3 pteranodon and fixed the sizes of the large Carno in the first game, so yes the size changes can happen.