Why use class A thrusters?

Lord Lucan Onion Head

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I don't understand this obsession people have with getting class A thrusters. I always use D class thrusters on all my ships. I tested A class and D class on different ships and the only thing that it seems to do is give increased speed on boost. I don't use boost in RES. ;-)

Do A class thrusters improve general manoeuvrability?
 
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Morbad

Morbad
Better cruise speed, better boost speed, and better acceleration. All pretty important things really. For most combat vessels, I consider A distributor and thrusters virtually mandatory.

They are also more durable than any other class, except B.
 

Jezzah

Jezzah
I'm sure someone here has done a comparison on thruster classes perhaps not recently however. I'd be Very interested to know if higher classes increase agility when manuevering. If I was a betting man id have to say they don't affect agility when manuevering it doesn't "feel" like they do and the d class is the lightest version so less mass to have to throw around?
 

Eagle Eye

Eagle Eye
Because what else are you spending your money on?

Seriously though, for a combat vessel I do it like Morbad, mandatory A distributor and Thrusters.
 
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fergal

fergal
Jezzah said:
I'm sure someone here has done a comparison on thruster classes perhaps not recently however. I'd be Very interested to know if higher classes increase agility when manuevering. If I was a betting man id have to say they don't affect agility when manuevering it doesn't "feel" like they do and the d class is the lightest version so less mass to have to throw around?
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The maneuverability on the viper gets better from the D to A thruster, I assume all the other ships are the same.
The improvement is somewhat in line with the velocity increases, so it is fairly hard to tell the difference.

A 10% increase in velocity is a massive difference, but 10% better roll speed is harder to notice.
 

Painkiller

Painkiller
LLON, on another thread "Accidental Fire" you wrote this:
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A rozzer got in the way of one of my cannon projectiles in a RES. "Wanted." Took a few seconds for 15 of them to take my hull down to 45% (class 6A shields on a Python and 4 A0 shield boosters)
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if you had better thurster, maybe your hull was only on 80% :)
 

Lord Lucan Onion Head

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So here's a test.

Test with A class and D class on, say a Python.
Put the speed into the blue zone and try yaw, pitch and roll (not boost).

When we say they "improve manoeuvrability" what does that mean? Under what conditions? When boosting?

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Painkiller said:
LLON, on another thread "Accidental Fire" you wrote this:

if you had better thurster, maybe your hull was only on 80% :)
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How? Why would I want to boost straight into an asteroid? They took me down to this before I even knew what was going on. I already know that better thrusters improve boost speed, as I said above.
 
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HeavyGroovez

HeavyGroovez
Morbad said:
Better cruise speed, better boost speed, and better acceleration. All pretty important things really. For most combat vessels, I consider A distributor and thrusters virtually mandatory.

They are also more durable than any other class, except B.
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This.

Even on my trade Conda I use 51 million space bucks worth of A7 thrusters for the simple reason that they improve the flight model so much that f!ying without them i really notice the difference.

I use D grade to save power consumption when I want to run specific loadouts such as a dual plasma Vulture or I am looking to maximise jump range.
 

DidierDrbois

DidierDrbois
I go A kit on thrusters only if I'm REALLY struggling, otherwise D. Thrusters are heavy as hell and drain truckloads of power.

I really had to go A on Asp as I took on Elite Condas. D on all other boats as far as I remember.
 

Poseidal

Poseidal
Did a test run (Imperial Clipper, all identical apart from thrusters, unladen trading build):

Time to do a 360 (in 50% throttle, 4 pips to engines)

D Thruster: ~9.4 seconds
A Thruster: ~8.8 seconds
 
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GMac

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Lord Lucan Onion Head said:
So here's a test.

Test with A class and D class on, say a Python.
Put the speed into the blue zone and try yaw, pitch and roll (not boost).

When we say they "improve manoeuvrability" what does that mean? Under what conditions? When boosting?

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How? Why would I want to boost straight into an asteroid? They took me down to this before I even knew what was going on. I already know that better thrusters improve boost speed, as I said above.
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Are you using the thrusters whilst pitching or yawing. That makes a difference.....
 

sasani

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Lord Lucan Onion Head said:
Sorry, but I've tested general manoeuvrability (yaw, pitch and roll) and A or D class seem to make no difference. As I say, only on boost.
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sorry to repeat myself but you have to include lateral (and vertical) thrusters in with general maneuverability... e.g. using vertical thruster to match speed with an anaconda / python while pointing directly at them from about 300m away to pound their powerplant with cannon fire... Technical diagram below

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HeavyGroovez

HeavyGroovez
Lord Lucan Onion Head said:
Sure, but specifically how do they "improve the flight model"?

(I'm not being funny or sarcastic, btw)
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They cancel out some of the drift that you get when flying big ships and decelerate you to a stop much faster in pretty much everything.

You really notice the difference when you have a fully laden ship and you are trying to dock without getting scanned.

Check the difference between the optimal mass on an A rated and a D rated thruster. Its a lot.
 

Ceekay

Ceekay
Did a few tests earlier in the year I think things may be slightly better with the current build

Eagle D3 middle of the blue band 100m/s 360 degree pitch 8 - 8.5 seconds

Eagle A3 below middle of the blue band 100m/s 360 degree pitch 8 seconds

Eagle A3 middle of the blue band 112m/s 360 degree pitch 7 - 7.5 seconds

So upgrading from an 18k thruster to a 500k one increases maximum speed by 17m/s (around 8%) and improves pitch rate by perhaps 10 -12%.

Each thruster grade adds approximately 3 - 4% extra speed and 3-4% better agility, the speed really isn't the big issue, however subjectively I can just detect the 10% difference between a D3 and an A3 thruster on the Eagle, 3 - 4% not a chance.
 
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