Why we NEED the California sea lion

But the California Sea Lion? I'd honestly rather have Steller Sea Lions, or the Galapagos Sea Lion.
Both the Northern Pacific and the Galapagos Islands need some love. Especially if Frontier won't give us Marine Iguanas, or Sea Otters. Which I honestly don't think either will occur.
I think the common player primarly has the the California Sea Lion in his mind when thinking about a sea lion species. And thats why I think that this will be the sea lion species we will get in the game. I am also pretty convinced that we will get one soon if the next pack will be NA. In my opinion the only reason why it was left out of the aquatic pack ist that it can be easily used as headliner species for a NA pack.
 
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I think the common player primarly has the the California Sea Lion in his mind when thinking about a sea lion species. And thats why I think that this will be the sea lion species we will get in the game. I am also pretty convinced that we will get one soon if the next pack will be NA. In my opinion the only reason why it was left out of the aquatic pack ist that it can be easily used at headliner species for a NA pack.
Plus it is by far the most common in zoos
 
I think the common player primarly has the the California Sea Lion in his mind when thinking about a sea lion species. And thats why I think that this will be the sea lion species we will get in the game. I am also pretty convinced that we will get one soon if the next pack will be NA. In my opinion the only reason why it was left out of the aquatic pack ist that it can be easily used at headliner species for a NA pack.

I can understand that. They are far more common in captivity, but to me, they are kind of just... The boring, middle sibling of the proper sea lions.
 
heck give us California sea lion.
I had been under the impression that the reason they weren’t included in the aquatic pack was in part due to the theme. The aquatic theme really only matches Atlantic coastal (think Maine and coastal Europe) and South American rivers as opposed to a pacific coast. Then again the North Africa pack broke that “rule”.
I have been in favor of the Stellar Sea lions as I have personal experience with them working in Alaska and I am very familiar with the threats they face and their conservation status. Plus there are very few facility’s that hold them (I work at 1 of the 3 north’s American facility’s). But at this rate I say let’s satisfy everyone by giving us the Clion.
Who knows they may be the headliner in the upcoming trailer.
 
I think the common player primarly has the the California Sea Lion in his mind when thinking about a sea lion species.
It's not so much that. The main point that dominates the majority of wishlists is whether the animal is widespread enough to be versatile. Certain niche species do have their place, like the proboscis monkey, but in general the most requested species are those that appear in zoos all over the world. Good examples are the capybara, Asian small-clawed otter, and the California sea lion. All three species are common in American collections, European collections, Asian collections, and Australasian collections (at least in the past - Australia and New Zealand both tend to focus on their native pinnipeds more nowadays), which is where the majority of the community comes from (I'm only excluding South America and Africa because a) I don't know as much about their zoos, and b) I don't know if we have many members from either continent).

Steller's sea lion, if I have my information right, occurs in some North American collections, but you'd rarely see them anywhere else. California sea lions are simply more accessible for zoos, and one of the primary drivers for players is being able to create zoos that might exist in real life (and for that, we need species we are likely to see).
 
A moose still has a chance imo. It is heavily requested species, and if A Proboscis Monkey was included (even though I have a theory that because they could not include a Gibbon, they went for another interesting and unique monkey), then a moose is surely possible. Proboscis monkey is not even a match for a Moose popularity.
 
I also sort of suspect that the gibbon was left out because they couldn't figure out brachiation in time.

I've said my thoughts on the moose; I'm not against it but the cougar, sea lion, alligator (which I'm prepared to defend against any whining about getting a fourth crocodilian), and one of the beaver or prairie dog would all come first for me.
 
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I have a good arguement against the californian sea lion.

Californian sea lion
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South American sea lion
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Now more acuratly, i have a good argument for not just one sea lion.
I feel like atleast the southamerican sealions look destinct enough to be a worthwile option next to them.
Just look at these extremly fluffly looking manes of the males.
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I have a good arguement against the californian sea lion.

Californian sea lion
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South American sea lion
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Now more acuratly, i have a good argument for not just one sea lion.
I feel like atleast the southamerican sealions look destinct enough to be a worthwile option next to them.
Just look at these extremly fluffly looking manes of the males.
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Haha, well that'd be because South American, Australian and New Zealand Sea Lions are more closely related to Fur Seals than Califronian, Steller, or Galapagos Sea Lions.
 
I have a good arguement against the californian sea lion.

Californian sea lion
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South American sea lion
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Now more acuratly, i have a good argument for not just one sea lion.
I feel like atleast the southamerican sealions look destinct enough to be a worthwile option next to them.
Just look at these extremly fluffly looking manes of the males.
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Also, that is a female California sea lion, while the other two are males.
 
Yeah, pinnipeds in general have massive sexual dimorphism. The grey seal already in PZ might be one of the milder examples, if anything.
 
Even though I prefer the Californian Sealion because it's so iconic and probably the most common one kept in Zoos, the Australian Sealion could also be nice. They are so cute and I think often kept in Australia and New Zealand (?)
 
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