Will JWE2 feature a accurate Spinosaurus?

[paul78]

Don’t get me wrong I really like the jwe Spino and this is the way the dinosaur still looks in my mind. But it is thought to be very inaccurate and I’m kinda surprised the franchise hasn’t introduced a more scientifically accurate version.

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Still a little strange seeing the spino like this. There’s no way one would stand a chance against a real T. rex in a real showdown. With a unbelievable bite force and much smarter then most dinosaurs t-rex really was the king of the dinosaurs.

 

[DragonNTiger]

As cool as it would be to see a real Spinosaurus, unless we get some "real dinosaur" pack there's no way this will happen...

I’m kinda surprised the franchise hasn’t introduced a more scientifically accurate version.

Five movies in and we've yet to see a scientifically accurate Velociraptor... every movie introduces new dinosaurs that are even less accurate than the last batch... and we've only seen the Spino once, with its niche often filled with other options... what's so surprising?

 

[paul78]

I suppose your right besides a little late to reintroduce it in the movies now after it’s original debut. Too bad it would make for a nice movie addition but it wouldn’t be the indestructible monster it was in its debut.

 

[Thylaco]

I feel like it might be possible, probably not under the name Spinosaurus though (proportions are different enough I'm not sure they can use the same anims).

Amphibious animals is a bit of a question mark I think for base game (PZ makes it obviously doable, but Jens did state it as ambiguous for dinosaurs I think)

 

[gabeluna27]

I honestly don't think so, because it's for the sake of continuity, as Jack Horner, the first major paleontological consultor of the series, in an article I found where he was interviewed regarding some of the film dinos, puts it. They wouldn't really retcon things so much to the biggest of ways just to show people "This is right and wrong and where's why!" kind of thinking you might find online. And this game, like the previous one, focuses heavily on authenticity of the Jurassic franchise, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was given the JPIII depiction.

Besides, when Horner was interviewed by Jurassic Outpost in 2017, he said they made it like that because it was the best they could make it to look accurate at the time. Nowadays, he says it didn't really look like that, but based on what he said in regards to the rex's hand pronation in the said article I found, it and everything else (for the most part), likely including the JPIII Spino depiction, is for the sake of continuity unless given a proper explanation. And that kind of "continuity" thing has even carried on with the dinos in the 65 million year flashback of Dominion's extended preview, in which the featured dinos from earlier movies, don't look, act, or sound any different from their modern resurrected counterparts at all. The only exception I noticed is the Rex's fluffy top half which somewhat plays along with something on a viral website's piece of lore info, something I think might be explored further more in Dominion.

To Horner and some of the more reasonable professional/expert and veteran paleontologists, the ultimate gain from the films isn't the accuracy of the animals, but the general interest of the animals to the audience to expand the pool of potential future paleontologist jobs.

 

[Butter]

Nope. Best you can hope for is another spinosaurid like Sigilmassasaurus with a look that's inspired by the modern Spinosaurus.

 

[PCMR4Life]

the JP and JW franchise isn't educational. There is no reason to have more accurate dinosaurs cause it's all science fiction. They aren't real dinosaurs anyway, they clones of dinosaurs and aren't 100% accurate clones either. In the book and the first movie it was said they filled in gaps with frog DNA. They probably should have used birds instead but I am not a expert on DNA and genetic science.

None of the movies have featured scientifically accurate dinosaurs and neither did JWE. So no they won't have a accurate version of the Spinosaurus. This was was discussed at length with the first game and it was explained multiple times. You are playing this game cause you are a fan of the JP and JW franchise and you want to see JP and JW stylized dinosaurs.

If you want more "accurate" dinosaurs then you will have to get it from some other game or maybe mods on the PC. But they won't be happening in this game. JP/JW dinosaurs have a certain look about them so even dinosaurs that weren't in the movies will have this specific stylized look to them.

Also I don't see how people can say accurate cause what's considered accurate chases pretty much constantly and no one really knows what was accurate or not cause no one has a real living dinosaur to look at.

 

[GojiraGuy1954]

Nope. Best you can hope for is another spinosaurid like Sigilmassasaurus with a look that's inspired by the modern Spinosaurus.

That's Spinosaurus

 

[GojiraGuy1954]

the JP and JW franchise isn't educational. There is no reason to have more accurate dinosaurs cause it's all science fiction. They aren't real dinosaurs anyway, they clones of dinosaurs and aren't 100% accurate clones either. In the book and the first movie it was said they filled in gaps with frog DNA. They probably should have used birds instead but I am not a expert on DNA and genetic science.

None of the movies have featured scientifically accurate dinosaurs and neither did JWE. So no they won't have a accurate version of the Spinosaurus. This was was discussed at length with the first game and it was explained multiple times. You are playing this game cause you are a fan of the JP and JW franchise and you want to see JP and JW stylized dinosaurs.

If you want more "accurate" dinosaurs then you will have to get it from some other game or maybe mods on the PC. But they won't be happening in this game. JP/JW dinosaurs have a certain look about them so even dinosaurs that weren't in the movies will have this specific stylized look to them.

Also I don't see how people can say accurate cause what's considered accurate chases pretty much constantly and no one really knows what was accurate or not cause no one has a real living dinosaur to look at.

It's always Spinosaurus, too. Almost as if these people are still mad about JP3 lol. I'm a fan of realistic Spinosaurus myself and prefer it over the JP version but realistic spino has no place within the JP canon

 

[Jura Arena]

Just wait for mods. The paleo accurate model we have for JWE1 is fine in my opinion

 

[Jens Erik]

The dinosaurs in Jurassic World Evolution 1 and 2 are accurate to how they look in the greater Jurassic World/Park universe. As such there might be some discrepancies to how they may have looked back in the day. We're aiming for franchise accuracy.

To quote a highly ambitious doctor from Jurassic World:

Nothing in Jurassic World is natural, we have always filled gaps in the genome with the DNA of other animals. And if the genetic code was pure, many of them would look quite different.

 

[gabeluna27]

The dinosaurs in Jurassic World Evolution 1 and 2 are accurate to how they look in the greater Jurassic World/Park universe. As such there might be some discrepancies to how they may have looked back in the day. We're aiming for franchise accuracy.

To quote a highly ambitious doctor from Jurassic World:

Not only that, just as I explained above earlier, if you’ve seen the special extended preview of Jurassic World: Dominion, in which most of it is a 65 million year flashback, although the dinos are “pure” in a genetic sense, for those that appeared in previous movies that are also in the sequence, they don’t look, act, or sound any different from their resurrected counterparts at all. A perfect example of, as Jurassic’s first paleontological consultant Jack Horner puts it, continuity of the series. The only major and exceptional difference I noticed myself is the Rex’s plumage on its back, which kinda plays along with a piece of lore information by the viral Masrani Global in-universe website, as well as what I presume will be further explored in its own unique way, shape, or form in Dominion itself.

 

[GojiraGuy1954]

Not only that, just as I explained above earlier, if you’ve seen the special extended preview of Jurassic World: Dominion, in which most of it is a 65 million year flashback, although the dinos are “pure” in a genetic sense, for those that appeared in previous movies that are also in the sequence, they don’t look, act, or sound any different from their resurrected counterparts at all. A perfect example of, as Jurassic’s first paleontological consultant Jack Horner puts it, continuity of the series. The only major and exceptional difference I noticed myself is the Rex’s plumage on its back, which kinda plays along with a piece of lore information by the viral Masrani Global in-universe website, as well as what I presume will be further explored in its own unique way, shape, or form in Dominion itself.

I hope we get a feather skin for rex in the game since it technically is movie canon

 

[SotF]

I hope we get a feather skin for rex in the game since it technically is movie canon

Pulling from the books, there is also the entire iteration thing there with versions of dinosaurs and the conversation involving Wu and Hammond about Wu wanting to re-engineer the dinosaurs to be the way people think dinosaurs are (at the time) with Hammond saying he wanted the "real" dinosaurs, and Wu commenting that none of them are fully real dinosaurs.

Perhaps a DLC story thing involving Iterations of dinosaurs with both more accurate ones and some that might go back to older looks of some of them. Perhaps have a bit about some of them using data recovered from the old Sorna/Nublar labs off-site data storage about an old project of Wu's from back then with some steps towards such a project.

It's always Spinosaurus, too. Almost as if these people are still mad about JP3 lol. I'm a fan of realistic Spinosaurus myself and prefer it over the JP version but realistic spino has no place within the JP canon

There was also the amount of flack JP3 got for the raptor re-design there. I hadn't minded it, figured it fit into the lore of different raptor tribes on the island and would work with a 3rd one that might have been a different iteration or even species there. With the designation of "Raptor," it could easily cover ones with Dakotaraptor or Utahraptor DNA there and divergant genetics.

It would make an interesting thing there to cover how things shifted between the JP universe and the real world, something like the relatively short period where there was an attempt to make Velociraptor the generic name for a lot of dromeosaur species and it didn't stick IRL while it stayed in the JP universe...likely due to the InGen raptors and naming issues

 

[Deleted member 275623]

i dont get people....like its not obvious what jens said.

 

[Thylaco]

i dont get people....like its not obvious what jens said.

Replacement obviously isn't possible, which is what Jens affirmed (far more people would complain about that anyway), it's more alternative models like Return to Jurassic Park.

Multiple versions is clearly fine for other species, Frontier adding other versions to the mix isn't that far removed. That said, higher accuracy would be more likely for it's own dinosaur, like with Euoplocephalus, conversely lower accuracy can also be it's own dinosaur and Spinosaurus has quite a few iterations.

 

[Jurassic Tyrant King]

This is a far fetched suggestion by gamer Empire years ago but I think this could solve Gamers wanting a scientifically accurate Spinosaurus similar to S.A Spinosaurus it's called "Sigilmassaurus" we could still have the Jurassic Park Spinosaurus but at the same time have Sigilmassaurus have the appearance of the original SA Spinosaurus. Like I said far-fetched suggestion

 

[Thylaco]

This is a far fetched suggestion by gamer Empire years ago but I think this could solve Gamers wanting a scientifically accurate Spinosaurus similar to S.A Spinosaurus it's called "Sigilmassaurus" we could still have the Jurassic Park Spinosaurus but at the same time have Sigilmassaurus have the appearance of the original SA Spinosaurus. Like I said far-fetched suggestion

It's not really farfetched, for the most part, people that care about accuracy don't tend to care as much about names as those that don't.

 

[GojiraGuy1954]

This is a far fetched suggestion by gamer Empire years ago but I think this could solve Gamers wanting a scientifically accurate Spinosaurus similar to S.A Spinosaurus it's called "Sigilmassaurus" we could still have the Jurassic Park Spinosaurus but at the same time have Sigilmassaurus have the appearance of the original SA Spinosaurus. Like I said far-fetched suggestion
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1. "Sigilmassasaurus" is not South American. That's "Oxalaia."
2. That is an image of Suchomimus.
3. Sigilmassasaurus and Oxalaia are both invalid genera.

 

[Jurassic Tyrant King]

1. "Sigilmassasaurus" is not South American. That's "Oxalaia."
2. That is an image of Suchomimus.
3. Sigilmassasaurus and Oxalaia are both invalid genera.

Sorry my friend you misunderstood the S.A it's short for scientifically accurate