Will lack of subscription kill Elite?
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And the moment you go down the guild and 'player owned systems' route, a fair number of the 'old guard' would up-sticks and leave.
No worst case scenario is they pull the plug on the servers and leave us with nothing.I would probably not go with subscription model for Elite - not enough content for me to be able to pay for it every month.
But hey - cheer up and wait for the updates after the holidays are over
I'm not to worried. For one thing, I think ED have sold pretty well, and have a core of grognard fans that is in for the long haul. As more stuff is added, that user base will grow. Each new DLC will also bring new players to the game, plus the inevitable game+dlc packs bound to crop up in due time as FD need some more cash to keep the momentum going.
Also if I'm not mistaken, FD have gone public, meaning an infusion of cash through IPO investors. This of course is a double-edged sword. Any success with ED will boost shares, giving more money in the till for further development. Take a wrong turn, and the effect will get magnified by the loss of share values.
Also if I'm not mistaken, FD have gone public, meaning an infusion of cash through IPO investors. This of course is a double-edged sword. Any success with ED will boost shares, giving more money in the till for further development. Take a wrong turn, and the effect will get magnified by the loss of share values.
Game subs are a dying breed in the industry. Many of the big players have gone on record to say that they will not produce sub based games any more.
I myself won't ever pay a sub again and if FD change the terms of my purchase they will owe me a refund as they will have breached trading standards by not selling it originally as requiring a subscription.
I myself won't ever pay a sub again and if FD change the terms of my purchase they will owe me a refund as they will have breached trading standards by not selling it originally as requiring a subscription.
Hasnt killed any other none subscription games . Back in the 80s and 90's I played games and vowed never to pay to play any . Then Jumpgate came out and then SWG lol.
It is now going full circle and people dont want to pay a sub for a game . Sell fluff , people always buy that . New skins , new content . FD have a team of developers for all the games they do anyway and Im sure it is organic like most modern busnisses. No need for a subscription when you can flog friparies to the player base .
Expect an expansion to cost £20 + that most will buy who play . Get a big player base to sell it to and bingo lots of cash. Even if 100,000 buy an expansion at 20 quid thats 2 million . With the devs already there and probably most of the work already in progress FD will easily make money.
It is now going full circle and people dont want to pay a sub for a game . Sell fluff , people always buy that . New skins , new content . FD have a team of developers for all the games they do anyway and Im sure it is organic like most modern busnisses. No need for a subscription when you can flog friparies to the player base .
Expect an expansion to cost £20 + that most will buy who play . Get a big player base to sell it to and bingo lots of cash. Even if 100,000 buy an expansion at 20 quid thats 2 million . With the devs already there and probably most of the work already in progress FD will easily make money.
I'd gladly pay a subscription if it would deliver the structure, content, depth and service of a 'normal' MMO and not just bugged 10% of it. Would also keep the number of trolls and fanboys low which is a good thing for all games out there.
To answer the thread-starter's question:
No, I doubt it. I was worried about the same thing before I played it, and it almost stopped me from buying it in the first place. Then I learnt of their plans for paid expansions and all in the world was good again. They CAN make enough money to survive and continue making the game better with paid expansions, so there is no worries.
No, I doubt it. I was worried about the same thing before I played it, and it almost stopped me from buying it in the first place. Then I learnt of their plans for paid expansions and all in the world was good again. They CAN make enough money to survive and continue making the game better with paid expansions, so there is no worries.
You forget what's out in the marked.
I played a number of high class MMO's in the past. Many started with a monthly fee and almost all had to change to a Free To Play model.
Today an MMO has to offer a very high standart of entertainmen to even consider to make money with something like an abo or a subscription because the free to play alternatives that offer the same or better are everywhere.
As much as I love ED it simple doesn't offers content required to justify a pay on time base. It's really Empty compared to todays MMO. Not many are willing to pay for Emptiness as imersive (I play DK2) as something might be it wont change that it's empty in its base. I can play it well with my imagination but I will not PAY monthly or subscription baseed for MY imagination.
I played a number of high class MMO's in the past. Many started with a monthly fee and almost all had to change to a Free To Play model.
Today an MMO has to offer a very high standart of entertainmen to even consider to make money with something like an abo or a subscription because the free to play alternatives that offer the same or better are everywhere.
As much as I love ED it simple doesn't offers content required to justify a pay on time base. It's really Empty compared to todays MMO. Not many are willing to pay for Emptiness as imersive (I play DK2) as something might be it wont change that it's empty in its base. I can play it well with my imagination but I will not PAY monthly or subscription baseed for MY imagination.
I'd give you a +1 for that but the forum won't let me because draconian anti-spambot software is draconian.
Yep, and I'm one of them. Player owned systems belong to some other game, and (IMHO) have no place in Elite. What has had me so cranked about this game is just how close to the orignal it is.And the moment you go down the guild and 'player owned systems' route, a fair number of the 'old guard' would up-sticks and leave.
I'd be unlikely to pay for a subscription either. That goes double or triple for an hourly subscription. That would be an instant uninstall. Maybe it's because I'm American (I can see that many of you are not) but metered internet or play by the hour game models might as well read, "steer clear" as far as I'm concerned.
I am one that would insta delete. I have never supported the subscription model. I refuse to pay anyone an open ended stream of payments for anything I purchase. The only people that win in a sub model is the company of a successful game. Many claim a lot of good comes from subs. I disagree with every reason given. Is it a way to provide funding for a game and the developer? Certainly. Is it in the consumers best interest to pay for a game based on this model? Absolutely not.
The company just received a £40 million investment IIRC, the kind of money that people don't give away to lost/unprofitable causes.
Stick to playing games and let the company do its business its way.
Stick to playing games and let the company do its business its way.
just NO!
The new addons will cost a couple of dollars and if they want more money they have to ask their shareholders.
please dont mention PS2 - Thats the best example of how low a company and a dev-team can sink!
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