Will VR be a big boost

Hell Razor5543

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I would be inclined to wait until the new GPUs from NVidia and ATi hit the market. Based on how much I paid for my cards (and seeing that their prices have not much dropped since), it seems that the launch of VR (and the requirements needed to run it) has kept the prices high. Once the new cards come out you have options; either to get one of the new ones, or (as the prices for them should drop) get one of the "current" cards that can run VR.

I have a pair of Asus Strix GTX970 cards, and they cost me £600 for the pair in April 2015. The best price I have seen for them currently is £285 each (so only 5% drop in prices).
 

Ozram

Ozram
Hell Razor5543 said:
I would be inclined to wait until the new GPUs from NVidia and ATi hit the market. Based on how much I paid for my cards (and seeing that their prices have not much dropped since), it seems that the launch of VR (and the requirements needed to run it) has kept the prices high. Once the new cards come out you have options; either to get one of the new ones, or (as the prices for them should drop) get one of the "current" cards that can run VR.

I have a pair of Asus Strix GTX970 cards, and they cost me £600 for the pair in April 2015. The best price I have seen for them currently is £285 each (so only 5% drop in prices).
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That's pretty sound reasoning. It will also give both the OR and the Vive a little time to mature (or at least get past initial bugs). Think I'll hold back a tad longer but at this point I'm leaning towards the Vive. My family and friends are all spread out. I really hope to one day be able to "see" them in a Virtual setting. Skype as is already makes a hell of a difference but I think the potential for a Virtual meeting is too good not to happen in the next few years.
 

cmdr awesome

cmdr awesome
Nobody is going to deny VR is expensive, so putting that aside for a moment I think most people can class themselves as one of these:
- not tried it, sceptical (the peanut gallery)
- not tried it, want to try it (PM me if you're near Cambridge UK :))
- tried it, want it (cost/availability/space/other-priorities are barriers)
- got it, love it

There are a tiny minority outside of this, such as:
- "tried it, meh" Possibly the demo wasn't representative, e.g. in a headset that wasn't properly adjusted on something other than elite.
- "got it (or had it), meh". Some people struggle with motion sickness, 3D perception, or have atypical IPD, or just had tech setup issues which would all impact the experience on a DK2 or older headset. All of these factors are less of a problem with the new gen headsets.

I think enough people have tried VR to conclude that a large majority find it immersive and compelling, even given the disadvantages (lower resolution, cost, blinded to real world, etc).

The cost will come down - In 12 months time all new gaming PCs will be capable of running a headset. It's just a question of time.
The cost of a headset may not drop enough for them to be everywhere, but once they are readily available there will be a second hand market and affordability will improve.
 
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[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
jesus christ what happened? OP seemed innocuous enough but somewhere between yesterday and it being a few yes's and a few no's but all fairly civil it has gone to fanboy Amiga vs ST style warfare :(

btw I AM a completely biased VR fanboy. It is fair to say not everyone gets VR, a few who have tried it still do not get what all the fuss is about imo the majority of nay sayers are those who have not tried it. I demoed my dk2 to a lot of people... some thought it was too low res, some went out and got one, and most said once it goes retail they would get a consumer one.... but all of them, even my dad in his 70's thought it was amazing and something "new" and even if it was not something they would want to buy, they understood why I was hyped for it. it is not often something ground breaking happens. it tried to happen in the 90s but the hardware was not there. now finally it is..

My absolute bottom line is, if you have tried (modern, so not anything pre DK2) and still do not like it then, I would love to hear your thoughts.

if you have NOT tried a DK2 or better, and are not interested, it is also interesting to hear your thoughts, but, imo I do think you have to accept that until you try it you do not have anywhere near all the available info so should at least be open to the chance that you may be wrong ;)

I have never tried caviar. I am fairly sure I will hate it, and i have no interest in trying it, but i would never argue over it with a caviar connoisseur ;)
 
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[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
Garix said:
Obviously if you're already a FB user, you're not going to care.
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I would not say I do not care... I have just given up. imo they are all much of a muchness when it comes to eulas. Privacy died sometime around the turn of the millennium imo, and facebook, windows 10 (and HTC/Steam with the vive) are just the final nails in the coffin.
 

Zeta Legion

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Mad Mike said:
jesus christ what happened? OP seemed innocuous enough but somewhere between yesterday and it being a few yes's and a few no's but all fairly civil it has gone to fanboy Amiga vs ST style warfare :(

btw I AM a completely biased VR fanboy. It is fair to say not everyone gets VR, a few who have tried it still do not get what all the fuss is about imo the majority of nay sayers are those who have not tried it. I demoed my dk2 to a lot of people... some thought it was too low res, some went out and got one, and most said once it goes retail they would get a consumer one.... but all of them, even my dad in his 70's thought it was amazing and something "new" and even if it was not something they would want to buy, they understood why I was hyped for it. it is not often something ground breaking happens. it tried to happen in the 90s but the hardware was not there. now finally it is..

My absolute bottom line is, if you have tried (modern, so not anything pre DK2) and still do not like it then, I would love to hear your thoughts.

if you have NOT tried a DK2 or better, and are not interested, it is also interesting to hear your thoughts, but, imo I do think you have to accept that until you try it you do not have anywhere near all the available info so should at least be open to the chance that you may be wrong ;)

I have never tried caviar. I am fairly sure I will hate it, and i have no interest in trying it, but i would never argue over it with a caviar connoisseur ;)
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The technology isn't REALLY there yet, not for widespread adoption to be economical at least.
 

Jason S

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I know VR is too expensive now.

On the other hand remember there is a lot of rich people and some of those like gaming and ED is in quite a short list of other games.
 

[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
Zeta Legion said:
The technology isn't REALLY there yet, not for widespread adoption to be economical at least.
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its there.... its just pricy right now.... (and by pricy.. well its not THAT pricey.... my speccy 48k back in 1982 was £150, the BBC B micro at the about the same time was £335... now THAT was a pricy computer)

(according to interwebs that is about £1230 for a BBC B and £515 for the speccy)


but without early adopters you do not get the economics of scale to bring it down to everyone else.

I remember seeing 42 inch plasma TVs for sale for £20,000... and to top it all off, they were rubbish, but someone has to go 1st ;)
 
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Jason S

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[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
Jason S said:
Hmmmm seems like a vive for me then when I can afford it.
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the vive is similar.. i do not have the link to hand but i read the vive T&Cs..... all much of a muchness.

its a bit like boycotting Gary Glitter because of his history and then going out and buying a Rolf Harris CD :D
 
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Zeta Legion

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Mad Mike said:
its there.... its just pricy right now.... (and by pricy.. well its not THAT pricey.... my speccy 48k back in 1982 was £150, the BBC B micro at the about the same time was £335... now THAT was a pricy computer)

(according to interwebs that is about £1230 for a BBC B and £515 for the speccy)


but without early adopters you do not get the economics of scale to bring it down to everyone else.

I remember seeing 42 inch plasma TVs for sale for £20,000... and to top it all off, they were rubbish, but someone has to go 1st ;)
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I remember those TVs. Early flat screen adopters got so ripped off it wasn't even funny. Of course I had a 46" CRT behemoth at the time; I think I finally replaced that dinosaur around 2010 and it was only because it broke down and the repair tech didn't know how to fix it anymore. Ended up with a 42" 1080p HDTV, which is of course behind the cool curve now but it works well enough. Cost me a hell of a lot less than it would have in the 00's though.

Sometimes the early adopters end up being suckers and we all laugh at them for being stupid.
 

CATPAIN KIRK

CATPAIN KIRK
Zeta Legion said:
Sometimes the early adopters end up being suckers and we all laugh at them for being stupid.
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As a stupid person, let me tell you that I prefer spending my money on early adopter tech gear rather than binge drinking in the Baleares or driving a compact car.

It happens to be the most fun for the money to me.
 

Ozram

Ozram
CATPAIN KIRK said:
As a stupid person, let me tell you that I prefer spending my money on early adopter tech gear rather than binge drinking in the Baleares or driving a compact car.

It happens to be the most fun for the money to me.
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Indeed. When broken down into the price of dinners and holidays, I find gadgets more than affordable... And I'm hardly wealthy (not poor though).
 
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