As the title states, will the new Chieftain be the Python for 2018?
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Will you ditch the Python for the Chieftain
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Ask me that after I have a chance to buy the Chieftain first.
Unless it has a comparable cargo capacity, I don't see many doing so. I know I won't be, but that's because I'll just be adding the Chieftain, not replacing the Python. 
I have to fly it first before I judging this ship with Phyton [alien]
Without knowing it's specs or handling I can't judge it. Chances are that I won't replace the Python, but may well add the Chieftain to my fleet.
I dunno if this is even a vaguely fair comparison. The Type 10 is (as stated in the release) built off the Type 9, which has the same size distributor. The Chieftain is an entirely new ship, so there's no carry-over from any previous design.
Very unlikely. 2l, 1m, 3s are not competitive with the Python's 3l, 2m. I also highly doubt, the Chieftain will have a C7 PP and PD... more likely C6.... the Python also has 3 C6 internals... nope, not gonna happen.
I expect it to be a competitor for the Dropship trio. The Python is an anomaly like the Anaconda... will never happen again.
FDev have developed a crush for deliberately making ships bad by giving them one or two ridiculous weaknesses... be it an undersized PD, undersized PP, undersized shields or whatever.
The Python was one of the first ships they made... it has no weakness. I think we all are hoping for a medium ship which is competitive to the Python... I wouldn't hold my breath, though.
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I am going to go out on a limb here, but I think it will be a direct competitor for the FDL... Just something in my bones says they are tired of the FDL dominating the medium size combat ship category, and want to change things up a little, especially since more combat focused ships are being built to combat the thargoid threat...
But then again, I could be completely wrong and its a heavier keelback with a class 2 distributor and 8 small hardpoints....
But then again, I could be completely wrong and its a heavier keelback with a class 2 distributor and 8 small hardpoints....
The Crusader doesn't look like a ship that I can fly into a high intensity CZ with 200 tons of cargo on board, kill fools for 30 minutes and then carry on to finish my delivery, so it's a no from me. Obviously I'll have to check it out when I can though.
Nah, type-10 was supposed to be the large version of the gunship. That's literally it's purpose for fighting thargoids. And yet it has a smaller distro than the gunship. Who knows what's going on with that. I have every expectation the Chieftain will be a fantastic ship that is completely sidelined due to a quirky inconsistent module choice.
It's become the SOP at this point.
Everyone wanted a bigger keelback, tho, right? <crickets>
Get ready for Keelback II. It even has the movable engines. I really want to be so incredibly wrong. I'm so tired of Frontier playing it too safe, and releasing ships that are overly compromised; to the point that they then have to invest even more time resolving down the track.
Frontier don't challenge existing offerings, they protect them, almost regardless of the cost.
The problem with challenging existing offerings is the backlash in the other direction. See: threads in the forum bitterly complaining about how the T-9 was "made obsolete" by the T-10 and about power creep.
With everyone ignoring how the Conda made the T10 obsolete, yet somehow not the T9?
It's almost as if people were making straw man arguments to make it seem like the had a point.....
Yeah it is a fair comparison. Because every single ship added since 2014 has been compromised in nonsensical fashion. So much so, several have had to be refactored. It doesn't matter whether a ship has lineage, or is brand new, it should still achieve what it's supposed to achieve. You don't go from 5 hardpoints to 9, and keep the same distributor and have that be a normal thing to do. Just like you don't add a passenger ship that carries less people than a trader.
Unless you're frontier.
People can believe whatever they want to believe. But I'm going to go with the Chieftain being an amazing ship that's then been lobotomised in exactly the same fashion the rest have been.
All I want to know is... How far can a engineered FSD Chieftan jump?
That is more a case of ships being consistent with their role, and in relation to each other. That's not a reason to enshrine massively compromised offerings, in perpetuity. That's resolved by regular reviews and improvements. Not making every new ship slightly worse than the last.
It's entirely backwards. The entire point is to have a range of solutions, each bringing value to the table. Each offering slightly different ways to achieve an outcome. Each designed with the next in mind. Each part of a greater whole.
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