Hardware & Technical win10 x64 cpu overheat fix

[Kingston@#]

are anyone else having cpu overheating. 99c. if you are I have found what seems to fix the issue. I don't know if its permanent, I will have to wait and see.
this will also work on laptops!
Here are the following steps:

• Open "˜Run', press the combination of Windows+ R key would bring it up. Then you should type "˜Regedit' to gain access to the Registry Editor.
• You are then required to find the following registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE>SYSTEM>CurrentControlSet>Services>Time Broker
• The next step involves modifying the String value labelled "˜Start' and you should change the value data to 4 and exit from the registry. You would then have to reboot in order to make sure that the changes have been applied. This should solve the issue of computer overheat.

 

[AJW]

are anyone else having cpu overheating. 99c. if you are I have found what seems to fix the issue. I don't know if its permanent, I will have to wait and see.
this will also work on laptops!
Here are the following steps:

• Open "˜Run', press the combination of Windows+ R key would bring it up. Then you should type "˜Regedit' to gain access to the Registry Editor.
• You are then required to find the following registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE>SYSTEM>CurrentControlSet>Services>Time Broker
• The next step involves modifying the String value labelled "˜Start' and you should change the value data to 4 and exit from the registry. You would then have to reboot in order to make sure that the changes have been applied. This should solve the issue of computer overheat.

Why? What specific issue is this supposed to solve, and why should this change fix it? Personally, if my CPU was overheating, I'd want to investigate the cause, and rectify it, rather than making registry changes based on nothing more than a vague forum thread.

 

[Minonian]

Not if the problem is your op system needlessly calculating some things. But in this case the CPU usage also jumps, there is a few good programs to keep in tabs on that.

Task Manager also do this, but for my part i'd prefer a widget to see what my cpu cooling fans, memory, and hard disks doing.
I suggest Advanced system care for this task, it comes with a memory cleaner program which comes hand if you have smaller memory, and also takes care of your usual system maintenance needs like reg cleaning excess files and such.

 

[Asp Explorer]

Checking system airflow, removing dust and applying fresh thermal compound seems a much better bet

 

[Minonian]

And buy a better CPU cooler... The factory default comes with the CPU usually worthless. And honestly? I don't get it why they are giving useless junks with the most crucial part of the machine?
I don't wait fluid cooling system, but to give a cooler capable to keep your CPU at least about 45- 50 C with 100% usage In real life conditions instead of lab testing. A little dust and a lot of other heat generating components. This really that much to ask? [mad]
Because what you get? is only capable to keep your CPU about 40C with minimal usage, which pretty much means you can't use your cpu in it's fullest without risking system crash.

A joke!

It's just like to give a car, with no coolant system so at the minute you step on the gas, the motor simply melt down...

 

[Kingston@#]

reason I posted this is because my cpu was running at 56c core was running at 99c and has been randomly overheating. not hot enough to shutdown with my h100i cooler attached.

further to previous post!

What are Runtime Broker and the role it plays in Computer Overheat? The core feature from Windows 8 was designed by Microsoft, and it is a safe process which assists the Windows through the Metro apps permissions. Runtime Broker won't run as long as there are no Metro apps running. However, with the upgrade to Windows 10, this process comes alongside too, and for now, it's been causing great disturbance for most use.

if you want full info from were I got it try here..https://datarecovery.wondershare.com/computer-overheat-in-windows-10.html

 

[Kingston@#]

Why? What specific issue is this supposed to solve, and why should this change fix it? Personally, if my CPU was overheating, I'd want to investigate the cause, and rectify it, rather than making registry changes based on nothing more than a vague forum thread.

I have just rebuilt my pc after total dust clean. and it was still happening. so being a bit of a tech is looked into it this is what I came up with. since I edited my registry it has not over heated once though I will leave it on for several days to test .

 

[Minonian]

Anway thx for the idea. I also disabled memory compression a weeks ago since than for the same reason my machine is more stable and generating less heat.

This is how you do it.

[video=youtube;pYg1FhRW26A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYg1FhRW26A[/video]

Anway i think MS do better if he giving us more control in this options instead of messing with registry, not everyone can do this, but with minimal knowledge you can manage it just like the virtual memory.
Talking about such? Windows have an option called ready boost, since a flash memory have higher speed than your HD, but not as fast like memory modules. I think this can be used between paging file and normal memory as the analog of mid range memory, in humans.

Memory compression and any needless computing power demanding tasks just a bad idea in one op system anyway. the last thing what you want is a slow, and overly demanding OP system right? It must know what's necessary, but for god's sake! Don't overburden our machines! Thats the very opposite what a good operating system do.

 

[Kingston@#]

my OS is on a ssd, boots up and running in 20 secs. a paging file, its not needed with the amount of ram I have. I also turn off indexing because of finite writes to an ssd. most programs that boot with windows go on my OS drive. all other software go's on others.

 

[xondk]

are anyone else having cpu overheating. 99c. if you are I have found what seems to fix the issue. I don't know if its permanent, I will have to wait and see.
this will also work on laptops!
Here are the following steps:

• Open "˜Run', press the combination of Windows+ R key would bring it up. Then you should type "˜Regedit' to gain access to the Registry Editor.
• You are then required to find the following registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE>SYSTEM>CurrentControlSet>Services>Time Broker
• The next step involves modifying the String value labelled "˜Start' and you should change the value data to 4 and exit from the registry. You would then have to reboot in order to make sure that the changes have been applied. This should solve the issue of computer overheat.

As someone that works with computers, I can tell you that this is not a solution to your problem.
You are currently treating a symptom not the cause, at best this is NOT something you should broadcast as a solution, especially since you do not know what is going on.

Time Broker, is from a quick search, the middle layer between apps and computer, ensuring security and such is properly handled, disabling it which the 4 value does, can affect your security.
It is more then likely an app that is causing the problem at not the broker itself, but you disable the broker, allowing whatever app to do whatever it wants.

But again this will not solve your overheating issue.
If your computer is reaching 99c, your cooling is defective in one form or another, you are simply disabling something at best, prolonging the inevitable, rather then solving the problem, fixing your cooling issue, disabling software is never the solution that should be taken if your cpu runs too hot, the solution is getting better cooling. Because any other program can come along and if it has high cpu usage, it will overheat your cpu again....please fix your cooling.

 

[Minonian]

Agreed. heck! Even 60 C is too much for safe working conditions, but 99? Change that damn cooler before your CPU fried, or other components begin damaged or became unstable because of the excess heat. Like old style condensers on your motherboard. They don't like the excess heat.

About apps? I suggest to run a quick v scan sneaky background programs like a bit coin miner can cause excess cpu usage.

 

[Yachats]

I had a similar problem with Elite when upgrading to Windows 10. I had to set the CPU power setting to 99% and the problem went away. My fans ran slower and system ran cooler when upgrading - but when running Elite the overheat safety kicked in. Setting the power range down to 99% fixed this with no discernible negative effect on performance.

 

[Minonian]

About flash memory writing cycles? Your average HD also have it's lifetime / usage period, although it's not written in stone, after that it will be break but there is a chance. And talking about a cheap relatively small flash memory like 4-16 gigs?
I use mine about 4 years as paging file, without problems, and if it's breaks? Than what? Still a good and cheap way to speed up my machine, well worth the money.

Getting back to memory compression i'm not going to be too much surprised if the recent troubles around windows partially related to this. Relatively new SW technology with all the plausible child sicknesses and especially the somewhat older HW-S are not prepared to this, not in raw power and neither in HW specs because i think some HW side support are going to be necessary for tricks like this if we want to be smooth and relatively problem free.

 

[Kingston@#]

the actual issue was that there was no apparent reason for it heating up like it was. when this was happening cpu usage was 37%, everything was running fine except that after a few hrs of running pc fans would increase for 5 min or so and then slow. spin up of fans failed to cool internal core. it is a known issue. for it not to be a solution dos not stand up, in my opinion. my pc has now been on for over 24hrs now and its been continually monitored and has not done it since. I have been dabbling with pc's since 95. building, repairing, diagnosing. if you disagree that's fine. I put data out there in case anyone else has the issue. also its funny that it also happens on my other pc. I haven't changed reg on that one yet. in a few days I will.
there is NOTHING wrong with my cooling system.
also it started after windows updated itself. also discovered that its only one core that's hitting 99c. I usually use AMDcpu, this is a new setup so I'm new to INTEL, I switched to intel so I can utilise VR...

 

[Kingston@#]

Agreed. heck! Even 60 C is too much for safe working conditions, but 99? Change that damn cooler before your CPU fried, or other components begin damaged or became unstable because of the excess heat. Like old style condensers on your motherboard. They don't like the excess heat.

About apps? I suggest to run a quick v scan sneaky background programs like a bit coin miner can cause excess cpu usage.

I was thinking a miner had infiltrated my system. though I haven't found anything to validate that a miner has been installed.

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after running pc for 24hrs.

 

[Kingston@#]

too the mod who edited my post. Sorry. I thought not naming was enough. I wont use h word again, in that context!

 

[Minonian]

Well than my last bet is to simply turn off dynamic CPU fan speed at bios and always keep at the maximum, so the constant changing does not cause any problem, and also a good idea to check how your bios and windows set to deal with the multicores.

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I had a similar problem with Elite when upgrading to Windows 10. I had to set the CPU power setting to 99% and the problem went away. My fans ran slower and system ran cooler when upgrading - but when running Elite the overheat safety kicked in. Setting the power range down to 99% fixed this with no discernible negative effect on performance.

Hmmm... Not a bad idea! In essence with that you prevent your CPU to be overburdened with tasks and go beyond 100%. no significant loss of speed, but no over tasking either.

THX!

 

[xondk]

the actual issue was that there was no apparent reason for it heating up like it was. when this was happening cpu usage was 37%, everything was running fine except that after a few hrs of running pc fans would increase for 5 min or so and then slow. spin up of fans failed to cool internal core. it is a known issue. for it not to be a solution dos not stand up, in my opinion. my pc has now been on for over 24hrs now and its been continually monitored and has not done it since. I have been dabbling with pc's since 95. building, repairing, diagnosing. if you disagree that's fine. I put data out there in case anyone else has the issue. also its funny that it also happens on my other pc. I haven't changed reg on that one yet. in a few days I will.
there is NOTHING wrong with my cooling system.
also it started after windows updated itself. also discovered that its only one core that's hitting 99c. I usually use AMDcpu, this is a new setup so I'm new to INTEL, I switched to intel so I can utilise VR...

really tells me nothing about your ability.

IF your CPU can reach 99c on _ANY_ core, one or more, then your cooling is not adequate.
Proper cooling will be able to handle 100% load on all cores over a long period of time. Many people use stuff such as prime95 or other cpu load creating apps to test if their cooler is handling the heat properly.
It should never reach 99c, that's tottering meltdown and physical damage to your cpu.

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Hmmm... Not a bad idea! In essence with that you prevent your CPU to be overburdened with tasks and go beyond 100%. no significant loss of speed, but no over tasking either.

THX!

CPU load can't go beyond 100% just...fyi, because that means all of it is in use.

 

[Steve_T]

are anyone else having cpu overheating. 99c. if you are I have found what seems to fix the issue. I don't know if its permanent, I will have to wait and see.
this will also work on laptops!
Here are the following steps:

• Open "˜Run', press the combination of Windows+ R key would bring it up. Then you should type "˜Regedit' to gain access to the Registry Editor.
• You are then required to find the following registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE>SYSTEM>CurrentControlSet>Services>Time Broker
• The next step involves modifying the String value labelled "˜Start' and you should change the value data to 4 and exit from the registry. You would then have to reboot in order to make sure that the changes have been applied. This should solve the issue of computer overheat.

I stupidly agreed to the free Win 10 upgrade on my Win 7 laptop and I'm getting a similar issue. Not checked the CPU temp, but the fan is on high a LOT of the time. Hardly heard a whisper from it when running Win 7.

 

[Minonian]

really tells me nothing about your ability.

CPU load can't go beyond 100% just...fyi, because that means all of it is in use.

But it can overburdened with too much processing requests lining up. A limiter in this case can prevent this, and also to somewhat limit the cores voltage stabilise your cpu its the opposite of over tweaking, makes your PC somewhat slower, but also prevents system instability.

Talking about lab test programs like what you mentioned and heavy load? Not the real thing. MY CPU heat is stops rising around 53 - 56 C which is a little high but still good. But when i play, or doing other heavy computing necessary things? It can reach 56 - 62 which is too high for 100% stability. I guess the difference caused by the v card also working and generating heat with the memory modules, and HD-s. And too much heat adds up.

Just as i said. Factory coolers can take the average work burden but when you play, or doing some heavy duty computing? They are just inadequate.

As a general advice? If your system is too unstable, but all HW and SW elements are fine? Down tweak the CPU and Memory speed, it can increase your system stability.

Edit; The thing is if your system, program, laws, machine, ideology whatever can only works fine in clean lab conditions with constant maintenance? Than it's not going to do in real life, and since, its impossible to maintain clean conditions in RL without too much fuss, it ain't worth crap!

AK versus M16 If you need to spend too much energy just to keep the blasted thing falling apart, than what the hell are we talking about???

Seriously?