Hardware & Technical win10 x64 cpu overheat fix

[xondk]

But it can overburdened with too much processing requests lining up. A limiter in this case can prevent this, and also to somewhat limit the cores voltage stabilise your cpu its the opposite of over tweaking, makes your PC somewhat slower, but also prevents system instability.

Talking about lab test programs like what you mentioned and heavy load? Not the real thing. MY CPU heat is stops rising around 53 - 56 C which is a little high but still good. But when i play, or doing other heavy computing necessary things? It can reach 56 - 62 which is too high for 100% stability. I guess the difference caused by the v card also working and generating heat with the memory modules, and HD-s. And too much heat adds up.

Just as i said. Factory coolers can take the average work burden but when you play, or doing some heavy duty computing? They are just inadequate.

As a general advice? If your system is too unstable, but all HW and SW elements are fine? Down tweak the CPU and Memory speed, it can increase your system stability.

Edit; The thing is if your system, program, laws, machine, ideology whatever can only works fine in clean lab conditions with constant maintenance? Than it's not going to do in real life, and since, its impossible to maintain clean conditions in RL without too much fuss, it ain't worth crap!

AK versus M16 If you need to spend too much energy just to keep the blasted thing falling apart, than what the hell are we talking about???

Seriously?

I'm not sure entirely what you mean if what ever your computer is doing is pushing the cpu to the limit, you are getting the max performance that your cpu can deliver for said thing you are having it run.
lowering various factors, installing limiters, gives you less performance?
Most modern CPU's top out at around 67.2c, and will thermal throttle themselves before doing a heat related shutdown. also note where it is measured can differ but yeah.

As for stock coolers, yeah, those 'can' do it, yes.

But if you at max CPU load generates a temperature you find unacceptable, then the solution seems to be, get better cooling rather then modifying/tweaking your software/hardware?

 

[Minonian]

Fair point.

But the problem is what i mentioned earlier.
If they are can't do in full workload, than the whole package is worthless, because limited by the weakest link in the chain.

 

[Kingston@#]

its now been 4 days and my pc has not had the issue again.
for those who seem to think the cooler is the issue here. there is 2 reasons that can cause this bug to happen and none of them concern the cooler. if only 1 core is jumping in temp and all others are staying at normal. it can only be a cpu core failing! or a software issue. if cpu hits 99% usage with no apparent reason. i found it was only 1 core hitting that. I tested cpu while running normally and result (no problems!) just to give your opinion a chance, I also tested my cooler on another cpu, result (no problems) tested my cpu on another board, (no problems) OS used here win 7
so in my opinion after much testing. your opinion is wrong!

none of my equipment is OC or DC. only thing I have changed is the registry key. my sys is now as stable as it has ever been and runs cool.
idle temp 35c running ED 48c

 

[Minonian]

To assemble my toughs about cooling? 2 days ago i took apart my machine to the last screw, to make a big service. So... I always kept clean but there is a difference between your regular dust off, and whole maintenance. I wish i did that earlier. But to be honest? I was too lazy to do it. Right now as result the base temperature about 4-8 C lover. huge difference! The problem was is the dust mites which sitted between the heat sink ribs. The other problem was my fan started to slow down. So i applied some fine oil into the bushning.

About The stock intel heat sink? Well? I just repeat what i said previously of my earlier plastic cased video card cooler and heat sink. The ribs are packed too dense what causes fast and dense dust mite build up, in result the sink loses effectiveness way too fast, and the airflow also have a hard time to get trough the tight gaps. Al trough i must admit to increase the heat sink surface was a solid idea at least in theory. But in the end this typically the design concept which only looks good in the drawing board.
As a positive, they are using copper core in the sink the best heat conductor. Not like my crappy old V card entirely poor quality aluminum sinks. That poor thing is full with rifts, and totally deformed because years of thermal expansion i can make a photo of it if anybody interested.

About the cpu cooler locking method? Can we go back the good ole screw, or anything else??? I saying this because these plastic legs are just wear down and breaks way too fast and me also had a hard time to properly remove them without damaging them. The idea was to easily remove them but in reality they are just causing too much trouble, because they are way too complex compared to the good ole screw fixation.

(this is the cooler i talking about)

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Edit; Talking about dynamic fan speed? My suggestion is to forget about it! Or at least give a much higher starting speed and faster speed increasing profile.

Reason? Al trough to keep the fan quiet and with lover speed and wear increase it's lifespan is sound when you only using your machine in the office, or just browsing and watching movies. But when we talking about heavy duty computing, probably the worst idea ever! Because you see? it's much more easy to keep a low temperature, than let it rise, and trying to push it down while the CPU / GPU works his butt of, and by doing so making a lot of heat. Because this is what dynamic fan speed does. With the low speed it's allows the temperature to rise fast rise high and after that it's overcompensating.

Seriously? WUT??? It is not better to not allow the processor to heat up into extreme temperatures and after that try to save his butt from catch flame? [wacko]

I just did this with MY GPU fan control the difference was about 5-10 C with the same program and graphics settings. read and say! 5-10! This is how messed up your usual silent running dynamic fan speed setup. And the thing is my dear B's and G's? In computing not everything about the price tag in your desk computer components, and the newness, raw power of it but also about proper maintenance, and know how?

 

[Kar]

I stupidly agreed to the free Win 10 upgrade on my Win 7 laptop and I'm getting a similar issue. Not checked the CPU temp, but the fan is on high a LOT of the time. Hardly heard a whisper from it when running Win 7.

I have read in many places people complaining about their PC doing all kind of weird stuff after upgrading to windows 10.

When that option came out, and Microsoft started to forcing people to upgrade, I did what I always do when installing a new OS. Format!

People that go by upgrading windows 7 to 10, many have problems, not because of the upgrade, but sometimes the hardware and drivers have problems with the new OS.

Never do a upgrade. Always a clean install. I never had problems with windows 10 (besides trying to treat me like I am stupid and not letting me doing what I want in my computer lol).

Try here: https://www.microsoft.com/pt-pt/software-download/windows10

You download the tool to make a bootdisk like a usb stick and install windows 10 from scratch. If you need backups get some usb sticks, they are cheap this days or buy a used HD for storage.

my OS is on a ssd, boots up and running in 20 secs. a paging file, its not needed with the amount of ram I have. I also turn off indexing because of finite writes to an ssd. most programs that boot with windows go on my OS drive. all other software go's on others.

You telling me you never had any problems with the page file off? You running windows 10 or 7?

In Windows 7 even if you have a lot of ram, turning the page file off, might cause issues in the long term. Not sure about windows 10.