I'm pretty sure that it is because of bad Cooling. The Computer gets warm way faster even if only Steam is opened. I've just played Heroes of Might and Magic 3 and the Temperature doesn't get lower or it needs way too much Time at least. When the Cooling Devices weren't as old as they are now, the Case of the Computer was relatively cold for the first few Minutes (I think maybe even for some Time after starting a Game). Now the Case is already warm after 1 or 2 Minutes
Windows 10 crashes while playing Games
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What you should be saying is ‘Windows allows users with adequate knowledge of what they are doing to turn off hardware acceleration, either for troubleshooting purposes or because they have another use for a GPU such as crypto mining or advanced mathematics’. DisableHWAcceleration is not an arbitrary limit on graphics cards.
That's what they wrote on a Website where I looked up Informations about the Error Code from the Blue Screen. At least either this or the Windows Update helped
I was resisting commenting here, because past experience suggests it's like drawing teeth... but...
You don't determine a CPU (or any component's) temperature by feeling the case.
If you suspect CPU cooling to be the issue, download Core Temp. And run things, watching what happens to the temperatures when you do.
Don't just replace parts at random thinking they might be the issue.
Of course that's not the best Way to determine if it works as intended. Also I'm currently looking at the Temperatures in HWMonitor and as someone previously mentioned, CoreTemp seems to not show the correct Temperature for some Reason (at least not on my PC)
It only cooled down 2°C in 15 Minutes and I'm currently not in any Game or another Software that let's the Hardware work very hard
If nothing is getting too hot in any of the multitude of programs you've been checking temperatures with, the chances of a new cooler resolving your issues are slim. Even if did, there would still likely be some underlying problem, because these components are supposed to be able to reach certain temperatures and still function...if they cannot, they are broken or misconfigured.
What happens when you stress the system?
Give Memtest64 another shot then watch CPU core temperatures.
I've not tested yet how hot it gets while playing Planet Zoo but I'm pretty sure that it gets way hotter than a few Minutes ago when I just played Heroes of Might and Magic 3 for a few Minutes. They can't work properly when it even gets that hot while playing this Game. Also the Computer got already way warmer while playing Planet Zoo than in other Games even when everything still worked fine. As someone previously said (but not with the same Words) these Coolers are cheap Trash
Leave HWMonitor running then start Planet Zoo and let it run for about 10-15 minutes, close it, and check temperatures.
Ok, if it doesn't crash. A few Hours ago I've tested something on a empty Sandbox Map and it already crashed after 2-5 Minutes most likely due to the Temperature
Of Course. Even though it will most likely be a Photo if it crashes again
You're at 58C in the screen shot and max temp for your CPU is reported to be 62C - so you don't have much room to spare.
Not only does the CPU cooler need to be adequate, but the case ventilation has to be good enough to clear out the heat being dissipated by the CPU cooler. If the cooler is just warming up the inside of the case, you'll eventually overheat.
Do you have a good fan on the back of the case sucking out the heat from the CPU cooler?
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Not only does the CPU cooler need to be adequate, but the case ventilation has to be good enough to clear out the heat being dissipated by the CPU cooler. If the cooler is just warming up the inside of the case, you'll eventually overheat.
Do you have a good fan on the back of the case sucking out the heat from the CPU cooler?
FX-8320 Socket vs Core Temp
Happy New Year guys. So I built a new rig for this Holiday season, and I'm trying of course to OC my FX-8320. I'm running it on the ASUS M5A97 Evo R2.0 and it's cooled with the Cooler Master 212 Evo. Now from what I've figured out by searching online is that the max safe temperature for this...
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There isn't a Fan but lots of Ventilation Holes
CPU core temp is being reported incorrectly. 287C is way too high to be real.
Package temp and CPUTIN look like they're probably accurate...warm, but within spec. A more stressful load would probably cause thermal throttling or temperature related instability, but I don't think that's the case in your games.
GPU temp looks normal. Most GPUs have a target temp in the 75-90C range (depending on specific part) to keep fan noise as minimal as practical, and no GPU I am aware of isn't speced for at least 85C, with most being able to go higher before there are issues. However, if the PCB/memory/VRM isn't cooled properly, that could certainly cause issues as well. When is the last time you cleaned out the video card cooler?
I'm leaning toward a GPU issue because of that problem with Windows' 3D acceleration, but you'll need to do some testing to know one way or another.
Can you run OCCT's 3D and VRAM tests and have them check for errors?
I saw there was no rear exhaust fan in your previous image of your cooler. Are you saying there are no case fans installed at all? That could well be a problem.
Have you tried running the system with the side panel off?
Can you take some pictures of your system that show all of it's components?
Package temp and CPUTIN look like they're probably accurate...warm, but within spec. A more stressful load would probably cause thermal throttling or temperature related instability, but I don't think that's the case in your games.
GPU temp looks normal. Most GPUs have a target temp in the 75-90C range (depending on specific part) to keep fan noise as minimal as practical, and no GPU I am aware of isn't speced for at least 85C, with most being able to go higher before there are issues. However, if the PCB/memory/VRM isn't cooled properly, that could certainly cause issues as well. When is the last time you cleaned out the video card cooler?
I'm leaning toward a GPU issue because of that problem with Windows' 3D acceleration, but you'll need to do some testing to know one way or another.
Can you run OCCT's 3D and VRAM tests and have them check for errors?
I saw there was no rear exhaust fan in your previous image of your cooler. Are you saying there are no case fans installed at all? That could well be a problem.
Have you tried running the system with the side panel off?
Can you take some pictures of your system that show all of it's components?
I saw the high reported core temps as well, but I think that motherboard doesn't have proper sensors to get an accurate reading on that CPU.
I think the easiest route to a likely solution is to add a case fan on the rear to ventilate the case.
Other than that, this box is too old to keep sinking good money after bad. You can buy a $200 core i5 refurb that will probably run faster than what he's using...
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I was also really confused when I saw this
I never did this before
I'll start my Computer again in a few Minutes and test it with this Tool
There is only a Fan for the Motherboard and the Graphics Card
I've didn't tried this yet. A Computer should be able to run normally when it's closed but I've also already had the Idea that this could at least be a temporary Solution
Let me know if you need also Pictures from different Angles
I really love the SSD blocking the intake fan...
Open/clear the intakefan in the front and add an exhaust fan on the rear as big as it will take. Likely 120mm or 140mm
stuff the SSD under the DVD drive so it isn't blocking the intake fan.
Maximize airflow from front to back however you can to cool the case down.
Add fans to the front if you can. You always need good fans. Even if it doesn't cure this problem, they always come in handy when you have a few on the shelf.
As I mentioned - I've read that the high core temp is likely due to the motherboard not having modern sensors to read the temp accurately back when it was made. Instead the used an algorithm to come up with a guess that was reported to be non-sense. Just as important as the CPU temps can be the VRM temps. If the VRM's are overheating adding airflow to cool the case down might fix it.
Adding a cheap fan or 2 is probably a good try. Even leave the case open and set up an external fan to blow on the inside to see if it runs stable. If it does, then it's a heat isse and adding fans will help. If the crash is only occurring when case covers are on but not when they are off, it's a pretty good bet it's heat that's the problem.
HTH
Open/clear the intakefan in the front and add an exhaust fan on the rear as big as it will take. Likely 120mm or 140mm
stuff the SSD under the DVD drive so it isn't blocking the intake fan.
Maximize airflow from front to back however you can to cool the case down.
Add fans to the front if you can. You always need good fans. Even if it doesn't cure this problem, they always come in handy when you have a few on the shelf.
As I mentioned - I've read that the high core temp is likely due to the motherboard not having modern sensors to read the temp accurately back when it was made. Instead the used an algorithm to come up with a guess that was reported to be non-sense. Just as important as the CPU temps can be the VRM temps. If the VRM's are overheating adding airflow to cool the case down might fix it.
Adding a cheap fan or 2 is probably a good try. Even leave the case open and set up an external fan to blow on the inside to see if it runs stable. If it does, then it's a heat isse and adding fans will help. If the crash is only occurring when case covers are on but not when they are off, it's a pretty good bet it's heat that's the problem.
HTH
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Wow, how could I not notice that there is a Fan. Thanks. I feel so stupid for not noticing this
That Fan looks also a little bit dusty. What is the best Way to clean it?
And any other Tips? For example how I can attach the Cables in a Way that the Airflow gets better?
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