Windows 10 - finally time to move?

Gully Foyle

Gully Foyle
Zieman said:
That's your problem, methinks.

My advice on 'updating' to W10 would be:
keep the other computer you have near, with relevant google searches through the procedure open
revert back to W7 if you have the option
save/copy everything you want to keep elsewhere
create an install media: USB stick or DVD (8 BG or bigger stick will do, IIRC DVD needs to be double layer) with the preaviously linked Media Creation Tool
boot the lappy with said install media
keep nothing, aka do a clean install (give the 25-digit Windows Key when asked, the one which activated your W7 back then should work and prompt the installer to install relevant verion of W10)
-at this point (if you've backed up all you want to keep) it is simplest to delete all partitions of the c: -drive, otherwise the installer may throw an error about MBR
don't give an e-mail adress when asked => create an offline account ("limited" is what the dumb program may call it)
now you lappy should work, with new clean install of W10 on it

P.S
writing this on a 2011 laptop, which came with W7, did the procedure I outlined and it works fine
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Wise Cmdr alert
 

GJ51

GJ51
Just finishing an HP laptop that's likely a few years old for a family member.

Clean install using the Win 7 key

Do not connect to a network if you just want to use a local account. Otherwise it does everything it can to suck you into creating an MS account.
 

GJ51

GJ51
Alkibiades said:
Hello!
Today Im going to install win10 on a brand new ssd (but Im keeping my hdd with win7). I am installing it from a usb 3 stick, is that good or should I use usb2?

Besides the usual dreadfull things like turning off the spyware and installing gazillions of programs I am faced with another problem:

I would like to migrate my cmdr data from the hdd to the ssd. What kind of files do I have to copy to where on win 10 so I dont lose any cmdr data like the star cache.

Im running a back up script:


Code: 
@echo on
start "Fraps" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Fraps\fraps.exe"
start "EDDiscovery" "C:\Program Files\EDDiscovery\EDDiscovery.exe"
start "MarketConnector" "C:\Program Files (x86)\EDMarketConnector\EDMarketConnector.exe"
start "Elite" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Frontier\EDLaunch\EDLaunch.exe"
xcopy "C:\Program Files (x86)\Frontier\EDLaunch\Products\elite-dangerous-64\Logs\*.log" "D:\Elite Dangerous\Logs" /D /Y
xcopy "C:\Users\Admin\AppData\Local\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\159572\*.dat" "D:\Elite Dangerous\ImportedStars" /H /O /Y
xcopy "C:\Users\Admin\AppData\Local\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\CommanderHistory\*.*" "D:\Elite Dangerous\CommanderHistory" /H /O /Y
xcopy "C:\Users\Admin\Saved Games\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\*.log" "D:\Elite Dangerous\Journal" /D
xcopy "C:\Users\Admin\Saved Games\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\*.json" "D:\Elite Dangerous\Journal" /H /O /Y
pause


So I know where these files are. Do I know of all files that must be copied?

  • The above
  • app data folder -- what files? all of it? The controls of course, the graficconfiglocal, star cache, ??
  • ed discovery database -- How do I migrate edd?
  • appconfiglocal.xml

Any help would be appreciated, thank you.
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I would have just cloned the original drive to the SSD and then upgraded the SSD to Win 10 . Otherwise you'll have to get into hive cloning to restore applications - no fun.
 

Alkibiades

Alkibiades
GJ51 said:
I would have just cloned the original drive to the SSD and then upgraded the SSD to Win 10 . Otherwise you'll have to get into hive cloning to restore applications - no fun.
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Yeah but no. I did a clean install and copied the folders 1:1 to the appropiate locations in win 10. Everything works buttersmooth.

Code: 
xcopy "C:\Users\XXXX\AppData\Local\Frontier_Developments\Products\elite-dangerous-64\Logs\*.log" "D:\Elite Dangerous\Logs" /D /Y
xcopy "C:\Users\XXXX\AppData\Local\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\159572\*.dat" "D:\Elite Dangerous\ImportedStars" /H /O /Y
xcopy "C:\Users\XXXX\AppData\Local\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\CommanderHistory\*.*" "D:\Elite Dangerous\CommanderHistory" /H /O /Y
xcopy "C:\Users\XXXX\Saved Games\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\*.log" "D:\Elite Dangerous\Journal" /D
xcopy "C:\Users\XXXX\Saved Games\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\*.json" "D:\Elite Dangerous\Journal" /H /O /Y

This is my new backup cmd. As you can see the paths changed. Thats what you have to figure out. Then its just ctrl+c ctrl+v.
 

Sunyavadin

Sunyavadin
GJ51 said:
There are utils out there that will read your product key.

how to read win7 product key - Google Search

www.google.com

Most boxes that had Win 7 installed when sold at retail had a small sticker on them with the product key on the outside, but either way you should be able to read it as posted above.
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Ironically, the one thing which could never read my product key back in the day? Was the Windows installer. Had to call up MS to do a remote activation, reading it off the DVD to them over the phone every damn time because the installer just wouldn't accept it when I keyed it in. And that, my friends, is how you turn every last one of your paying customers to piracy. Because at least the ones from a keygen program JUST WORK.
 

Morbad

Morbad
Sunyavadin said:
Ironically, the one thing which could never read my product key back in the day? Was the Windows installer. Had to call up MS to do a remote activation, reading it off the DVD to them over the phone every damn time because the installer just wouldn't accept it when I keyed it in. And that, my friends, is how you turn every last one of your paying customers to piracy. Because at least the ones from a keygen program JUST WORK.
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Microsoft product activation was annoying enough that I stopped giving Microsoft money shortly after Windows XP was released.

Until that point I had always purchased full copies of their OSes through mainstream channels and hadn't had a problem with using keys on their older (Windows 2k and prior) products. However, Windows XP introduced product activation...and as I was an 'enthusiast' who would habitually break installs (I once installed Windows XP on one system over a hundred times in one year) in the process of experimentation, I spent a lot of time on the phone with Microsoft and rapidly grew to resent their system and DRM in general. I wound up using activation cracks on systems I had entirely legitimate licenses to and started seeking out corporate and educational volume licenses I could get for free, as well as increasing my interest in alternative OSes.

Activation is still annoying, but MS has lightened up to the point that it's rarely an issue...and my testing process (bootable Memtest86 then Prime95 from a Lubuntu live image) has improved to the point that I'm not installing Windows on super flaky OCs.
 

Sunyavadin

Sunyavadin
Morbad said:
Microsoft product activation was annoying enough that I stopped giving Microsoft money shortly after Windows XP was released.
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Yeah, this was my copy of XP Ultimate that drove me away from ever bothering with it again. When your DRM only penalises paying customers, there's no justifying it being there.

I imagine there's a certain number of times any given person can buy software, only to discover it doesn't work without them jumping through extra hoops, then download the crack from a pirate version to make their version work, before eventually just skipping to the last part every time to save the hassle.

And don't even get me started on the amount of times a publisher's used an authenitcation system that's subsequently ceased to be supported by its own developer, resulting in software they are still selling becoming unusable, and them running off to a warez site to grab a crack that they then release as an official patch, with the cracking team's headers still embedded.
 
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Garry Bryson

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Does Microsoft also support free Windows upgrade?
I found them so-called free methods to move Windows 7 to Windows 10.

How to Upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10: 7 Steps

Upgrading Windows software can give you access to new settings and tools, as well as a better Windows experience in general. Luckily, upgrading Windows is much quicker than before, because now you can do it all online. This wikiHow shows...
www.wikihow.com
Next I will try them on another Windows 7 computer.
 
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JazzyTech

JazzyTech
I hated having to move on from Win7 ultimate for many reasons already stated here. Since many people rely on my knowledge of MS products, I didn't have much of a choice. BUT: there are other OSes out there (which are my primary tools of choice) but Win10 is good enough for gaming imo. I did encounter a few issues with ED (micro-stutters) between Win 7 and 10, but very little differences performance-wise overall. Those issues were solved with suggestions/solutions here in the forums and keeping up to date with NVidia drivers.

My system is somewhat modest by today's standards (Overclocked AMD Vishera 8350 / Asus Factory overclocked Strix 2070 Super).

I did not do a fresh install (was curious if MS had improved in upgrading) and was pleasantly surprised at the result. (Rare experience for me with MS!)

Corporate "spying" aside, Once you've removed all the ad/bloatware Win 10 isn't too bad.. But you'll have to give up about 20 IQ points and some privacy though.. (sigh)..
 
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Captain Willard

Captain Willard
I am finally buying a new computer with win10. 6-7 years ago I built 2 gaming machines for me and the boss. Mine just fried, it had thousands of hrs on it, hers prolly less than a thousand. Switched my HD into her computer and I'm good to go. The new gaming computer has win 10 and the horse power to play the 2 new games I have to play maxed instead of lowest setting and prolly for games made for years to come. That's prolly all we will use it for. Just the newest games. The ancient win 7 computer still plays all the best.
 

STRONTIUM DOG

STRONTIUM DOG
you too can be silky smooth!
just had a case of mandela effect with your sig could have swore the word spring was life:unsure:
early signs that i have truly gotten off the boat.
 
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