General / Off-Topic Windows 10 is Not For Me.

I built 2 gaming machines for me and the misses circa GTX 760 with win 7. I added a third drive to both, installed win 7 and upgraded them to win 10. I will continue to run win 7 until it's outdated, then build 2 new machines and will have free copies of win 10 ready to go on new drives. I wonder if win 12 will be out by then?
 
I wonder if win 12 will be out by then?

I understood that windows 10 is supposed to be the ultimate version that will be updated forever until the sun explodes.
With windows 10 we will get newer and better spyware versions all the time without even noticing it. Such a convenience.
 
updated forever until the sun explodes.
a lot longer than the human race will be around...;)

I personally think win10 is the best, yes its a bit awkward trying to do somethings. not knowing were things have now been hidden. perseverance will solve that issue. knowing OS helps a lot.

I disliked win8 n .1 a lot. win 7 wasn't bad. though it blue screened a lot, froze etc:
 
Surprising. I have almost never had of problem with Win 7 since years

not used it since I rolled back from 7 to XP LOL. tried the next win 8. got dumped asap. been a win10 user since before win10 release to general public. I have had some issues with the betas. general release I have had no issues. currently using pre-release ver win10. which should go general pretty soon. one thing is missing (no control panel) though my shortcut to it solved that issue :)
 
not used it since I rolled back from 7 to XP LOL. tried the next win 8. got dumped asap. been a win10 user since before win10 release to general public. I have had some issues with the betas. general release I have had no issues. currently using pre-release ver win10. which should go general pretty soon. one thing is missing (no control panel) though my shortcut to it solved that issue :)

XP was a very great OS. Win 7 was the worthy successor I found. I still use Win 7 today, although I also have Win 10 on another SSD

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Minonian

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...but ... but... W10 is getting 'game mode' imminently to reduce background processes by 5-10% when gaming... how else are MS going to develop 'ground-breaking' features like W8 Metro was [wacko] without people taking the plunge and exposing themselves to corporate and governmental surveillance? [hotas]

How about to simply stop the various game video recording and streaming apps like microsoft's and Nvidia's for a starter, that will save process and memory time, not to mention the other various thingies, what's not essential. Just throw out from the memory, and processing time, if the game not needs it, or the user not wants. Honestly... All sort of keep running on backgroung without the slightest need and everyone wonders why his PC can't take the load?
 
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My desktop uses Win 7, my laptop runs Win 8.1, I have no interest in Win and have said many times I'll never upgrade to it.
For the moment I'm fine as I am, but when MS stop putting out updates for 7 (2020?) I'll be moving to linux.

Which is going to be very annoying as most of my games/apps won't work ..including ED!
 

Minonian

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Honestly, i'm satisfied with W10, and to getting back my previous detour, as windows gaming mode?

They are promising performance right? well, there is a cheap way to do that for everyone, although i think an oldtimer whom grew up with machines as C64 Acorn, Spectrum, and know how was a 386 -486 ECTS PC looked alike, mostly must be natural. Close every unnecessary program. Yeah, they can't use too much as background task per program right? but when you have dozens of programs like this running in the background, that matters a lot! And there are dozens! this matters not just in terms of performance but also stability, they can cause bugs gliches, significant periodical performance drops, when they must have access to the computer, Just like to have the Windows games video recorder & streamer + the NVDIA's running in the background in the same time.

For Christ sake! What for? You either use one or the another. Both of them in the same time is just unnecessary! So please at least give us control over it to choose whomever we like it to use em or not, want to start this apps or not?

Other things what usually causing performance drops? Timed maintenance runs, like virus buster, defrag and such.
 
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My desktop uses Win 7, my laptop runs Win 8.1, I have no interest in Win and have said many times I'll never upgrade to it.
For the moment I'm fine as I am, but when MS stop putting out updates for 7 (2020?) I'll be moving to linux.

Which is going to be very annoying as most of my games/apps won't work ..including ED!
I have 50 games on my Linux Steam client at the moment. Was playing Borderlands 2 natively last night. There's more options with WINE and even UNRAID OS.

I plan on running Kubuntu Linux as the main OS of my new gaming rig with a Win 7 VM for the few proprietary things I still need. I'm hoping Vulkan continues to be developed, that more Linux games are produced and (Holy of Holies) Elite eventually comes to a native Linux OS.

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but when you have dozens of programs like this running in the background, that matters a lot! And there are dozens! this matters not just in terms of performance but also stability, they can cause bugs gliches, significant periodical performance drops, when they must have access to the computer, Just like to have the Windows games video recorder & streamer + the NVDIA's running in the background in the same time.

For Christ sake! What for? You either use one or the another. Both of them in the same time is just unnecessary! So please at least give us control over it to choose whomever we like it to use em or not, want to start this apps or not?
Yup. However, if everyone runs out and buys a new car with bad performance, the car maker isn't really motivated to fix things. MS really got sandbagged with Windows 8. We banned it from our work and only have one VM copy for compatibility testing today. Has not been turned on in 8 months.

Microsoft is a corporation and needs to make more money this year than last year or execs get fired. Giving away Windows 10 was not done out of empathy for the customer. It was done to secure a monopoly. The long term costs of owning 10 have not been realized yet, but they are coming.
 
Point number one: you're right.

Point number two: you won't change anything.

Simple fact of the matter is that as long as the intah-netz exists, what we share of our lives on computers is public.

I am simply glad that at this stage the internet isn't truly integral to personal life. For that reason I keep as much "personal" away from all IT as possible - or at least nothing I would not willingly share.

The best thing anyone can truly do for each other in these situations is to release a full and simple guide on disabling all optional data collection from windows 10 seeing as there's so much of it on by default, and otherwise condone caution.

Myself...I loved win 7, and hadn't moved from it in some time. I moved to win 10 due to some apparent increase in VR performance, but if I go ahead and get a new GPU I'll be tearing my current HD out, my old win 7 installation will be back for the love of elegance and...anyone want to buy an SSD?

Please, don't clear it first. Just root through it. Root through it and be disturbed.
 
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Point number one: you're right.

Point number two: you won't change anything.

Simple fact of the matter is that as long as the intah-netz exists, what we share of our lives on computers is public.
Yup, but I can choose my own OS and it does not have to be Windows based.

Another reason I'm not getting Windows.

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It is for Kaby Lake

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I know it's a bit of a necro-quote here, but...I'm not sure if this was out of sarcasm of not, but if the former is true, surprisingly, you were quite on point:

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This must come from a recent update, something around mid/end of March, because I've first seen it on a machine I built for a customer around a month ago, an i3-7100 using his pre-owned Win 7 license...all smooth for almost a month, last week he brought back the machine because of an "error" message that started to pop up everytime all of a sudden...the lenght they'll go to try and make you switch over to 10 :rolleyes:...

Truth be told, I find it not even half as bad as it's pictured by some people, I'm honestly not even bothered too much by privacy concerns (1- they're able to know everything about me anyway if they want and 2- let they know everything, they'll be surprised by how much am I a boring person [smile]), all things considered is quite a good OS, stable enough and with good general performances or at least no worse than Windows 7, and that was pretty good already. Also, is a lot more friendly on the drivers side, from my working point of view it takes considerably less time to set up a machine with 10 compared to the previous 7 (8? Never heard of this, sorry), mostly because it does most of the driver updating work on its own compared to previous versions.

Problems starts when there are actually problems. Recovering those things is a pain most of the time, windows 10 try to be "user friendly" and automate everything, and this is a thing I mostly hate, I still largely prefer the good old Windows 7 recovery tools and safe mode in this regard.

I'd still say that, if you really aren't forced or feel the urge to have Windows 10, you'll still be good to go with Windows 7 for quite some time (just, don't apply the recent updates :p).
 
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