Hmm....so how do I believe this?? lolDon't believe everything you read from a random person on Internet
I gor one have been using win11 without any issues with Elite Odyssey for some time now.
rootsrat
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Yeah I see the paradox
But seriously. No issues whatsoever with elite. I've had a small issue with live streaming via OBS, but that was OBS issue with win11, not the other way around and its fixed now anyway.
Get a Steam Deck, the best of both worlds!
Get a Steam Deck, the best of both worlds!
man, zen4 with ddr5 and even low end (current gen) graphics options (or even integrated) are going to be just incredibly outpacing consoles for nearly the same price.
if my deck with 10 watts of total power is able to play games better than the ps4 generation consoles and isn't even too shabby against the ps5 generation then I think we're going to be very pleasantly surprised with the perf increase of this next generation of hardware coming out this year. rdna2 + ddr5 == so fast that even un-optimized messes will look good. too bad odyssey didn't come out this coming new year. fewer would have noticed the perf regressions
Same here.Don't believe everything you read from a random person on Internet
I gor one have been using win11 without any issues with Elite Odyssey for some time now.
Opinions vary.
Direct3D 12 is a drastically different beast then D3D11. The way you set up draw calls, prepare textures, and handle shaders is very different.
You'd have to retool a lot more then just a rendering pipeline, but also how to feed the pipeline data. Just swapping out API calls is not how you'd go about it.
D3D12's major upside is that all the "fussy mom going over every single piece of attire before her drawcall children can leave the house" overhead from older APIs is gone, and replaced by an "emotionally distant father" who just tells his drawcalls to "stop waiting for my approval, just do your thing and don't be an idiot about it".
And if a drawcall's got a bad blend or texture reference incorrectly set then the father'll peel just enough newspaper away from his field of vision to give that drawcall (and the programmer) an intense look of disappointment as bad things happen.
If a development house that uses D3D12 has achieved peak git-gud-ness in it, then they could render an entire scene in just a single drawcall with Indirect Drawing.
Nothing about moving to 12 is trivial, though.
it's not how you'd appropriately go about it. But what method do you think would happen in this scenario? Refactor the pipeline and file io code from the ground up to use a new api (while also having to retain support for the old )....or throw a wrapper library on your existing codebase and say you support the newer api now and hope you can somehow make use of some advantages without having to redo everything? Regardless of how realistic that wish is.
Besides, any motivation to push to a new api should go towards vulkan rather than dx12. If you're going to do the work, why shoe-horn yourself into a proprietary api who's future support is at the whims of a company like microsoft or apple (if we want to talk about whatever they call theirs these days) who's incentive is to leverage it to sell new versions of their operating system?
Why?
seriously, Where's linux in that count request? It's almost like he wanted a pointless count of only a fraction of the OS's used to play the game.
The point in supporting anything is in potential customer base.
If Windows 7 was still a popular gaming platform and ED still a game attracting a lot of new players, they'd support it, no matter if it was obsolete according to Microsoft.
Pretty sure Frontier doesn't support my current OS of choice (which is Server 2022), despite the fact that it's scheduled to be supported for longer than Windows 11, possibly even Windows 12.
Confusing perhaps, but most of these statements aren't even contradictory.
Almost no one's issues with Window 11 have anything to do with how it runs Elite: Dangerous (which is just as well as any other version of Windows). The problem with Windows 11 is that it's Windows 11.
^ I don't even like Windows 11 crumbs falling back into Windows 10, but luckily my Windows 10 is frozen in time when it was (and for me, is) highly stable, reliable, "light weight", and overall a good OS.
I've been mucking about with an old windows 2000 PC (a P3 650 running at 866 on a 133 FSB) testing old PCI & AGP cards & playing a few old GLide games over the past few days. It's a lovely, smooth & intuitive OS with an uncluttered UI, I've been using the walknet to grab drivers though, I wouldn't connect an OS to the internet that wasn't up to date.
Tomorrow's job is to get a win98se install onto a K6-2 400 with a failed HD...
rootsrat
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Without trying to frame it as DX12 confirmed, this announcement could suggest that a move to DX12 has been discussed and added to the soon™ pile..
Please don't. They're stopping support for a dead OS - don't read some masterplan into it.
Hope so, IIRC DX10 was dropped pretty early on & any move that suggests future-proofing (rather than only cutting back on workload as this announcement appears at face value) would be a positive step.
I think the pretty has become an increasingly important selling point for ED.
Which would be pointless if they don't rewrite the engine to take advantage of the new features