Change for the better is better, change for the worse is, erm, worse.
Basically change is not necessarily synonymous with good/better.
Hardware & Technical Windows 8.1
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Change for the better is better, change for the worse is, erm, worse.
Basically change is not necessarily synonymous with good/better.
It seems that Windows 8.1, 64-bit has some incompatibility with certain generation processor 32/64 bit
Oh I agree I would prefer a text command line any day, but it seems that everyone is judging the book by the cover so to speak.
Yes the start screen is a dumb looking tablet interface, but there are so many improvements under the hood. Full DX acceleration, re-worked threading and kernel model, improved memory and power utilization, completely re-designed printer stack to name but a few.
Yeah, that's the point I think - we're computer users and the interface is, well, pretty much fundamental to how we relate to the machine. Not so many people care about what's "under the hood" if the vehicle itself looks a mess!
I'll move to 8 (for the benefits), but I'll be looking at Classic Shell, or whatever, that gets rid of the tablet tiles thing completely.
I felt the same way about it, for the first couple of days; but I urge you to at least try to use it. After you familiarize yourself with it, it is actually a lot better than the start menu.
Not a rant, I am just saying how I feel now I am on the other-side of the fence.
I have. I installed 8.1 Enterprise preview (or whatever their demo version was called) on my spare PC... and it isn't better, it sucks!
I have to move my mouse like 10 miles instead of 2 or 3 centimetres. I just don't see how it's better at all I'm afraid. Even the simple fact it visually overwrites your entire screen - just to start an app - rankles... there's no need.Oh, and I should point out I do like change when it's good. Many people didn't like the ribbon in MS apps, but I got it very early on and always liked it.
... I have to move my mouse like 10 miles instead of 2 or 3 centimetres. I ...
Wow, how big is your monitor
sarcasm aside why are you scrolling so far to reach something? Is it not pinned?Wow, how big is your monitor
Because the tiles are all over the place! Yeah, you can rearrange them, pin them, etc, but they still take up acres of space compared to the svelte Start Menu. You won't convince me - it's fine for touch, pointless for mouse.
Have you looked at Classic Shell, jabokai?
I had a glance, when it was mentioned above, and would intend to use something like that, yes. Still, won't be building a new PC until Jan/Feb so maybe Windows 8.2 with an entirely optional tile interface will be out by then.
... You won't convince me - it's fine for touch, pointless for mouse.
Don't worry i am not trying to convince you, its not like MS pay me LOL
All i am,saying is that it is easy to quickly pass judgement on something rather than consider that you may be wrong yourself. I regret having done this many times in the past.
Why not have a look at the smaller tiles, naming groups and various improvements in 8.1 over 8. Now i have my screen setup, i know exactly where everything is at a glance. Not to mention i have set the option to boot to desktop instead of the start screen.
meh, not convinced about the need to migrate from w7 at this stage. With a decent SSD, W7 is really fast and very stable. Also not really seen anything that DX11.1 on w8 has on DX11. Like someone said earlier, I'll hang fire until DX12 turns up and games actually use some of the functionality offered before considering a switch.
Go into control panel and adjust the mouse sensitivity like everyone else
My mouse is set up perfectly, thank you very much. The physical distance is still more in Win8 tiled view than Win7 start menu.
Anyway, played with Classicshell on Win8 and it's fine... no impediment now to getting Win8 when I build my new PC.
That just makes you sound lazy...
I am... wait, do you know me!?
It's more the fact it's totally unnecessary... I like broken things being fixed, I see no point in things that work being changed just to make it prettier on a tablet... which I'm not using!
I'm lazy too of course, which is why I quite like the Start screen. All my most frequently used apps get pinned to the task bar, but I can't cope with more than about 10 there at a time. I find it easier to find stuff on the start screen than when it was buried in the start menu, and there's less frustration when the nested menu collapses for no reason.
It really does help having a 'Start' button on the mouse though. It saves that 3% effort over finding it on the keyboard.
It really does help having a 'Start' button on the mouse though. It saves that 3% effort over finding it on the keyboard.
The start SCREEN is jarring to use on desktop PC. Having a 24" screen suddenly completely change just to open an application is not nice... it's not a major deal, it's just very unappealing, visually... as well as the extra mouse effort of course.