There is a chance ED will appear on a PS4 but not initially .. you might have an agonising wait
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There is a chance ED will appear on a PS4 but not initially .. you might have an agonising wait
If you've got windows 7 I'd not consider upgrading, but windows 8 is FAST when you get used to it. Installation from USB in minutes, all drivers detected, and internet ready to load the world's most popular browser for downloading other browsers.
I'd not swap the excellent start menu search equivalent (metro tiles) for the equivalent. Press windows, type and hit return.... Very customisable too, and quick to navigate with mouse. Less room for spanner hands like me to missclick...
Shut down? windows+I.
Run - windows+r
The biggest gripe I had with win 8 was when the default programmes would be the metro version rather than the desktop. Still, quick fix.
Also the start time is great, though I don't have an SSD on my windows 7 machine, so I'm not able to make a fair comparison.
Otherwise, there's not much to split the difference for a gamer between 7 and 8 though I'm surely missing something. I prefer windows 8 over 7 after over a year's daily usage of both for work and play.
I'll wait for Blue though, no rush on that.
I'd not swap the excellent start menu search equivalent (metro tiles) for the equivalent. Press windows, type and hit return.... Very customisable too, and quick to navigate with mouse. Less room for spanner hands like me to missclick...
Shut down? windows+I.
Run - windows+r
The biggest gripe I had with win 8 was when the default programmes would be the metro version rather than the desktop. Still, quick fix.
Also the start time is great, though I don't have an SSD on my windows 7 machine, so I'm not able to make a fair comparison.
Otherwise, there's not much to split the difference for a gamer between 7 and 8 though I'm surely missing something. I prefer windows 8 over 7 after over a year's daily usage of both for work and play.
I'll wait for Blue though, no rush on that.
DirectX 11.2 is going to be an Windows 8.1/Xbox One exclusive. Unless Microsoft changes tack on that, expect gamers to make the shift.
you have a point, but how many new games will REQUIRE the new DX before M$ bring out another OS? not many i would imagine.
For those that like the feel of the classic start button:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/classicshell/
It's free and gives you the option to choose one of three previous OS Start button features.
As for Windows 8. Great for phones, great for tablet PCs, **** all use on Desktops, **** all use on laptops, and quite honestly **** all use for any business. Windows 7 is one of the most stable platforms they've produced and the guy who developed Win 8 and thought it was a good idea to slap it on non touch screen devices needs to have his fingers lacerated by paper cuts and then have them dipped in fresh lemon juice.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/classicshell/
It's free and gives you the option to choose one of three previous OS Start button features.
As for Windows 8. Great for phones, great for tablet PCs, **** all use on Desktops, **** all use on laptops, and quite honestly **** all use for any business. Windows 7 is one of the most stable platforms they've produced and the guy who developed Win 8 and thought it was a good idea to slap it on non touch screen devices needs to have his fingers lacerated by paper cuts and then have them dipped in fresh lemon juice.
Finally got bored and tried to install 8.1 preview, and got exactly the same thing as AndyB. It actually restored to 8.0 pretty smoothly, so that's something at least. Think I'll just wait for the official update.
though I can upgrade from Win7 to Win8 Pro for £49.99( or probably less if I shop around) Im going to wait until an OS comes out that I will be happy with.
currently I work in the IT field and my customers include the like of C4, M&S, Play.com, BT, Schroders, Sainsburys, Tesco's, Rolls Royce. none of them have migrated to Windows 8, call me fickle but when the big boys choose an OS ill probably follow them, none of the above ever chose Vista as a dominant OS but have gone with Win7, so until I see a trend ill be following these guys.:S
currently I work in the IT field and my customers include the like of C4, M&S, Play.com, BT, Schroders, Sainsburys, Tesco's, Rolls Royce. none of them have migrated to Windows 8, call me fickle but when the big boys choose an OS ill probably follow them, none of the above ever chose Vista as a dominant OS but have gone with Win7, so until I see a trend ill be following these guys.:S
I'll try and not sound too fanboy about it as it really up to everyone to have the OS they prefer but for me Windows sucks. It always has done and I swear, loudly, at it every day at work.
The last decent OS that MS produced (IMO) was OS2
Windows stabilitity issues are generally down to drivers but it is so frustrating to administrate it is untrue. I gave up around the time of NT4 I think.
I am a unix user and have had to install unix tools just to get things done properly on my laptop. Horses for courses I guess. You have to be quite a techie but if you are, I would recommend trying it. Seriously I would be lost without things like grep,awk,sed and regular expressions in general.
At home I have an iMac, my first one lasted 8+ years without any problems, ever. Still have it as a backup but PPC support was dropped.
New one is nearly 3 years old, just upgraded the OS 2 levels. Took about 30 mins, two accounts, no problems.
I think Microsoft are fast becoming an irrelevance. Poor choices, bad products and just too damn slow to market. My tuppence anyway.
I think I probably did sound a bit fanboyish, sorry.
I was trying to say, there are other options, go try them out too. Linux very good these days. Free to!
The last decent OS that MS produced (IMO) was OS2
Windows stabilitity issues are generally down to drivers but it is so frustrating to administrate it is untrue. I gave up around the time of NT4 I think.
I am a unix user and have had to install unix tools just to get things done properly on my laptop. Horses for courses I guess. You have to be quite a techie but if you are, I would recommend trying it. Seriously I would be lost without things like grep,awk,sed and regular expressions in general.
At home I have an iMac, my first one lasted 8+ years without any problems, ever. Still have it as a backup but PPC support was dropped.
New one is nearly 3 years old, just upgraded the OS 2 levels. Took about 30 mins, two accounts, no problems.
I think Microsoft are fast becoming an irrelevance. Poor choices, bad products and just too damn slow to market. My tuppence anyway.
I think I probably did sound a bit fanboyish, sorry.
I was trying to say, there are other options, go try them out too. Linux very good these days. Free to!
<chortles> Next up... the penguinistas!
I like 8. However, I came from Vista, which was awful. The speed of 8 blew my mind in comparison to Vista. I can literally start up my computer in under 5 seconds. That has NEVER happened to me in my decades of computer usage. (ok, 2, but still.) Not sure about 8.1, but I suppose I won't hate it.
For the record I have never used the 'app' view or whatever it is called. I just press the windows key and stay on the desktop.
For the record I have never used the 'app' view or whatever it is called. I just press the windows key and stay on the desktop.
I simply don't understand the problems people have with it, it's easy to use.
depends on what your used to, as a user who started with 98 everything is too hard to find, even shutting down is a pita if you don't know the shortcut keys.
one good thing that MS did do with 8 though is include Godmode, saves an old techie like me playing 'Hunt the setting' if i need to change something a few menu levels down that's otherwise too difficult to find.
other than that the just isn't enough in the way of hints, every new OS is a walk in the woods but with this one they managed to blindfold the users.
The much vaunted startup speed is a bit of a cheat as when you "shutdown" win 8 it enters a hybrid hibernation mode where it writes the core part of the memory to disc and loads that on startup.
The big downsize is that hybrid mode does not always play nice with dual boots and may have to be turned off.
And when you turn it off the boot up time goes back to being comparable with win7.
In our house we are slowly moving over to Linux and are using Zorin which has a windows 7 front end to Ubunutu and even my wife now prefers that to windows.
My problem with Linux is that the list of games that can run on Linux compared to Windows is TINY. Also, alot of my school programs simply won't work on Linux, and there are no alternatives. Linux might be the future, but it simply isn't practical when everyone develops for Windows. (My classes specifically stated that the online portion only works on Windows, and that Windows is required. A shame.)
Plus, I can't think of anyone in my life who uses Linux. Too many destros, and most working men don't have time to be picking and choosing. Its a big turn off with most of my circle.
Plus, I can't think of anyone in my life who uses Linux. Too many destros, and most working men don't have time to be picking and choosing. Its a big turn off with most of my circle.
i've used most of the windows operating systems in my time.
Wow Dos 6.22 nostalgic memories
windows 3.11 was ok.
I love windows95 with USB support
windows 98 version 2 was great.
i loved XP 32bit i think xp in the end had a special part of my heart.
i still used dos to get over virus problems but vista stopped that
i used Vista 32 bit on my pc (AMD machine) and laptop, on my pc I had a few issues not many but i still liked it even it tended to be a bit slow but on my laptop never had one issue it went a dream, laptop was toshiba intel core duo which i fitted a bluray ide drive worked fantastic. though my time with Vista i tended to see a lot intel pc's tended to work better with vista don't know why but was forever helping people with vista on a amd pc and laptop (maybe drivers?)
Windows 7 wow i got it on order for a while before launch very cheap this was my time to go 64bit i have used win7 on 32bit to i loved it from day 1 took a while to get use to a few things but i loved its speed, im a big fan of windows 7
windows 8 hmmm didn't really like the look i do normally preorder operating systems well before the release but windows 8 for the first time i didnt
i'm not saying i won't try it as my next laptop i will be getting win8 on it but wanted it to be out for some time before i tried it
Wow Dos 6.22 nostalgic memories
windows 3.11 was ok.
I love windows95 with USB support
windows 98 version 2 was great.
i loved XP 32bit i think xp in the end had a special part of my heart.
i still used dos to get over virus problems but vista stopped that
i used Vista 32 bit on my pc (AMD machine) and laptop, on my pc I had a few issues not many but i still liked it even it tended to be a bit slow but on my laptop never had one issue it went a dream, laptop was toshiba intel core duo which i fitted a bluray ide drive worked fantastic. though my time with Vista i tended to see a lot intel pc's tended to work better with vista don't know why but was forever helping people with vista on a amd pc and laptop (maybe drivers?)
Windows 7 wow i got it on order for a while before launch very cheap this was my time to go 64bit i have used win7 on 32bit to i loved it from day 1 took a while to get use to a few things but i loved its speed, im a big fan of windows 7
windows 8 hmmm didn't really like the look i do normally preorder operating systems well before the release but windows 8 for the first time i didnt
i'm not saying i won't try it as my next laptop i will be getting win8 on it but wanted it to be out for some time before i tried it
windows ME well what can i say, it was bad, and i made myself forget it lol
but what was good was the startup disc for WinME i always found even if installing win98 version 2 i used a ME startup disc for partition and formatting it seem when formating to find more space on a hard drive and yes i did experiment at the time, same hard drive etc and found every time you did get a few extra bytes of space which back then did kind of matter a little bit
but what was good was the startup disc for WinME i always found even if installing win98 version 2 i used a ME startup disc for partition and formatting it seem when formating to find more space on a hard drive and yes i did experiment at the time, same hard drive etc and found every time you did get a few extra bytes of space which back then did kind of matter a little bit