With all the negative respons...

[Jex =TE=]

Hyperbole like this won't help a bit. It will only alienate potential new players. *sigh*

Not as much as reviews of the game and word of mouth will. FD need to provide a roadmap like every other game in development does - there is no reason for silence unless what you're going to tell people is something they don't want to hear.

Right now the word on the street is that ED looks great but doesn't really have a lot to do except grind for no real reason in a lifeless, randomly generated galaxy.

 

[Zieman]

Not as much as reviews of the game and word of mouth will. FD need to provide a roadmap like every other game in development does - there is no reason for silence unless what you're going to tell people is something they don't want to hear.

Right now the word on the street is that ED looks great but doesn't really have a lot to do except grind for no real reason in a lifeless, randomly generated galaxy.

Now we're talking, non-rude and well constructed reply. Thank you. Would +1 rep, but I've already consumed my quota today.

About the "grind for no real reason in a lifeless, randomly generated galaxy" part - I bet it is true for may, and for many others it isn't so bad. After all, Elite is about you finding stuff to do and maybe figuring out reasons for that as well. No need to grind mindlessly.

Maybe we will get some story driven content, or whatever reasons for grinding people are after, soon...

 

[sfajardo]

I see so Much negative respons and whining. People wanted stuff to do so FD Adds community goals,which i like. But People never get satisifed.

You're wrong. We don't want "stuff", we want a working game as kickstarter described. FD didn't fixed bugs nor added PROMISED features, instead the add 'community grind-a-thon'.

 

[Vasea Azure]

You're wrong. We don't want "stuff", we want a working game as kickstarter described. FD didn't fixed bugs nor added PROMISED features, instead the add 'community grind-a-thon'.

Pretty much.

 

[Jex =TE=]

Now we're talking, non-rude and well constructed reply. Thank you. Would +1 rep, but I've already consumed my quota today.

About the "grind for no real reason in a lifeless, randomly generated galaxy" part - I bet it is true for may, and for many others it isn't so bad. After all, Elite is about you finding stuff to do and maybe figuring out reasons for that as well. No need to grind mindlessly.

Maybe we will get some story driven content, or whatever reasons for grinding people are after, soon...

Thanks, rep'd u back lol

There's something I'm missing about ED. I played the original for hours and then Frontier Elite 2 for hours (got every ship). E2 was a great game and I loved it yet something about ED is just lacking and honestly, E2 is a better game as there was so much more to do. ED is almost a step backwards and I want it to be moving forwards.

By lifeless galaxy I mean that the randomness of the missions seems more so in ED, like you really are pulling a slot machine handle and getting generic mission # 3456 to do.

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You're wrong. We don't want "stuff", we want a working game as kickstarter described. FD didn't fixed bugs nor added PROMISED features, instead the add 'community grind-a-thon'.

What exactly did the kickstarter promise? I just bought Elite on the back of playing the originals and really didn't want to ruin the experience of learning the game by reading too much - I just assumed Braben would make something better than Frontier Elite 2 (I didn't even know FFE (is it) existed before I came here - I might pick it up lol).

 

[Commander Azriel]

What do we want? How about an actual Dynamic universe? How about consequences to our actions, meaningful choices to make?

How about a background simulation that actually works? How about a dev that actually explains the rules to the game, instead of hiding behind a black box?

How about a "dangerous" universe? Factions that aren't just generic copy/paste with the most basic of "flavor texts"?

How about having more than a small handful of missions that aren't repeated ad nauseam?

How about some conflict and drama between the factions? Maybe some 'interstellar rivalries flare as galactic superpowers fight proxy wars'?

I'd settle for some of the 'richness'™ That David is constantly droning on about...

 

[scorpionarachnid]

Thanks guys for the positive comments...maybe it don't look so bad. Maybe my I need to re-think

 

[sfajardo]

What exactly did the kickstarter promise? I just bought Elite on the back of playing the originals and really didn't want to ruin the experience of learning the game by reading too much - I just assumed Braben would make something better than Frontier Elite 2 (I didn't even know FFE (is it) existed before I came here - I might pick it up lol).

Just search the word "friends" here, You can't do anything right now.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous

 

[Dakron Nova]

ok...here goes

The thing that has upset me is the fact that I spent 3 weeks getting money by hauling, then getting my dream ship Viper....then another 3 weeks of hauling and bounty work to get enough money to outfit my ship to A grade. My path was clear and upgrade planned. Only to find out that 1.1 upgrade changed the max power for an A3 power unit so my ship does not function (I scanned a ship and half my modules went off line!!!

Now I can't upgrade because A3 unit is limited to 12Mw I cant get the A FSD to extend my jump range or add A sensors. I have had to lower my spec to just fly! You can't limit the power limit so you cant have a "A" ship that does not works! My journey has been stopped...where do I go from here?

Isnt that the point really? You shouldn't be able to max out a ship with all the top gear at the same time? You should have to carefully make choices and way up the pros and cons behind the decisions you make When outfitting. Do you go for offense or defense, cargo or range etc.

 

[Jex =TE=]

Just search the word "friends" here, You can't do anything right now.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous

You mean this???

Our galaxy. Its an awe inspiring, beautiful, vast place; with billions of star systems, planets, moons and asteroid fields just waiting to be explored, and exploited. The triumverate superpowers of the Empire, Federation and Independents dominate their core system volumes and constantly skirmish to outmaneouver one another on their frontiers. Outside their influence, in the vast majority of the galaxy, anarchy reigns supreme and spectacular discoveries await the bold.

Its dog-eat-dog out there – you need to keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.

Whether you want to trade for profit between systems, take part in multiplayer co-op mission alliances, free-for-all group battles and team raids to bring down planetary economies, even tip the balance of power in the galaxy (for your own advantage, of course..), or simply explore the wonders of the galaxy (and who knows what you’ll find out there..) is up to you.

Your second-to-second actions could have you taking the roles of trader, pirate, bounty hunter, leader, team player, opportunistic assassin, grand schemer, and more. You are at the centre of the action any time, any place and any way you choose – each action has a consequence, and influences the galaxy around you.

Starting with a few credits and a basic starship, carve your own path through the richest, largest gaming sandbox ever created, set against a backdrop of raw anarchy, galactic powerplays and intrigue. Do whatever it takes to upgrade your ship’s hull, engines, weapons, defences, cargo hold; constantly improve your capabilities and influence on your journey towards the most coveted rank in the history of gaming - ‘Elite’.

BTW the Mac version should be out next month like they promised and the above is nowhere near the game I'm playing right now. The above is the game I want to be playing, what I have is like opening a wrapped cardboard box at christmas only to find out it's just a cardboard box

 

[Jex =TE=]

Real Freedom - Go where you like, be what you like - pirate, bounty hunter, trader, assassin, or some mix of all of these.


Trade - Buy low, cross dangerous space lanes, evade or destroy pirates en route, then sell high, if you make the journey!


Fight - Take on the pirates or be one yourself


Progress - Get your pilot rating all the way from "Harmless" to "Elite"


Explore - Head out to the far reaches of space and discover amazing sights


And the best part - you can do all this online with your friends, or other "Elite" pilots like yourself, or even alone. The choice is yours...

LMAO - And the best part.....doesn't work.

 

[Rick Mason]

For goodness sake guy's and Gal's, the game is only 2 months old, Rome wasn't built in a day springs to mind. Give the devs a chance, they have promised to expand the game in the future, I personally don't mind the grind to get the things I want, I love the exploration aspect as well, there is loads to do, you just have to go out and find it.

 

[Jex =TE=]

For goodness sake guy's and Gal's, the game is only 2 months old, Rome wasn't built in a day springs to mind. Give the devs a chance, they have promised to expand the game in the future, I personally don't mind the grind to get the things I want, I love the exploration aspect as well, there is loads to do, you just have to go out and find it.

Good for you

 

[Tenshi]

I see so Much negative respons and whining. People wanted stuff to do so FD Adds community goals,which i like. But People never get satisifed.

So my question is: what do you whiners want? Give me some real suggestions cause i fail to understand your never ending whining.

would just be Nice to know what People expect when ya'll say you want: real in game content. (ya'll just say planetary landings right)

90% of the players who are happy with the game will not even bother with the forums. It is only a very vocal 10% of the community that will use the forum to whinge about wanting things to be added.

Personally I am happy with the game only reason I am not playing it right now is I am feeling under the weather and trying to recover from a cold that has knocked me for six.

 

[Voz]

Personally I am happy with the game only reason I am not playing it right now is I am feeling under the weather and trying to recover from a cold that has knocked me for six.

Get well soon!

 

[sfajardo]

90% of the players who are happy with the game will not even bother with the forums. It is only a very vocal 10% of the community that will use the forum to whinge about wanting things to be added.

How you know this? do you have data/facts? or are you using your imagination ?
Did you read my post? We don't "want things to be added" We want features that SHOULD be there on Dec/2014 release.

 

[Salkinius]

Its called developement for a reason, and it is an ongoing process, they may not get things right the 1st time round, or even the 2nd or the 3rd, and they will never please everyone, nor should they try too. But there is a world of difference between discussion/suggestion and complaining/demanding -

Discussion and Suggestion is being part of the developement process, understanding that the game hasnt been made for any single person, is a fine balance between what is wanted and what is needed and has far more complexity to it than the game we see and experiance.

Complaining and Demanding is just whining, tends to be self serving and a prime example of low self control and/or a bunch of other negative human traits.

Sorry if i my comment came accross as a gross generalisation, i sometimes forget that my interpretation of something isn't always going to be how someone else reads it. The game, any game, definately benefits from positive feedback, and by positive i mean the way in which it is conveyed, the good the bad and the ugly are all relative for the developement of a game. My comment about whiners, while a little tongue in cheek, was very literal, and a very real example of how some folk are, and usually a very small minority.

I have no problem with the fact that a game can be developed even after release. However, I do have a problem with the release of a shell of a game. Elite is nothing more than a shell. It's a beautiful tin can with a screw, a nut and a nail in it. When you shake it, it just rattles.

It's a, and I've used this analogy before, 5 course dinner with only one ingredient on each plate. The Chef comes in and says that he will be back later to add some gravy to the single potato, some cream to the single strawberry or some soup to the croutons. He also says that they've been talking in the kitchen about perhaps adding a steak to the main plate.

This is Elite on release.

I wouldn't have minded a much smaller Elite world, with less ships, less stations, less missions or less commodities. If ONLY the stuff in the game at launch actually worked.

A game where mining works
A game where trading works
A game where the economy works
A game where the factions work
A game where the major political players work.
A game where missions work.

A world where you play a role, where you feel motivated to do something except making more money so that you can buy the biggest ship in which you will be able to do exactly the same stuff you did with the smaller ships and nothing else.

There is nothing worth doing in Elite right now except perhaps exploring and putting you name on that space rock. This will grant you some small (very small) amount of fame. Will you notice that fame in game? Will your efforts effect anything in the game? NO, that fame is elsewhere. It's a player created fame that you can back up with a screenshot if you like. The game gives you nothing, nothing. Not even a small notification when you rank up.

I'm starting to feel like Elite rather than SC is the scam.

We won't see planetary landings with land vehicles going about, We won't see big cities and we won't see a FPS. Why? Because they haven't even begun developing it. They are still TALKING about it as something they would LIKE TO SEE in the game in the future. It's not set in stone at all. I would be surprised if we even saw walking about on stations.

 

[Salkinius]

90% of the players who are happy with the game will not even bother with the forums. It is only a very vocal 10% of the community that will use the forum to whinge about wanting things to be added.

Personally I am happy with the game only reason I am not playing it right now is I am feeling under the weather and trying to recover from a cold that has knocked me for six.

That is <rubbish> as we say in swedish. You pull those numbers from out of your donkey. An active and lively forum is most often the result of a game that raises questions. A gamer doesn't begin playing a game by reading the forums first. And the gamer won't visit the forums if the gamer is happy with the game and does not have any questions he can't find the answer to from wither the manual or from some other player.

 

[Jex =TE=]

90% of the players who are happy with the game will not even bother with the forums. It is only a very vocal 10% of the community that will use the forum to whinge about wanting things to be added.

Personally I am happy with the game only reason I am not playing it right now is I am feeling under the weather and trying to recover from a cold that has knocked me for six.

Well that's a rather unvalidated assertion right there. I use forums mostly to keep up with what's going on in the game - it's a good place to learn things and it's also a good place to offer suggestions and make complaints too. A good way to get a feel for a game is to see what the forums are like and what the community are saying.