With Odyssey announced, a word from a full-time MMO gamer.

[Deleted member 110222]

This is very important advice here.

Do not, under any circumstances, start to build up expectations of what Odyssey "must" be, months before it is due to launch. (Almost a year, even)

Seriously, one of the worst things we can do at this point is start discussing what we will be able to do, how it will work, etc.

I see this mistake happen in MMO expansion launches all the time and it leads to many, many disagreements and worse.

The reality is this. Features are going to change. Things might, and probably will, get cut, to a small extent. Other things might be added that nobody expects.

Definitely don't lose sight of the fact that the world is a very different place now and everyone is still adapting, Frontier included. This will create challenges, especially for a studio that has always worked in-house.

This should be MO for online games. But yeah. Please. Just bear in mind that this is a game and hiccups do happen.

I learned this lesson during my break from ED, where I went on to MMORPGs. I learned this big lesson for expansions: Expect nothing, and you cannot be disappointed. An extreme view, sure, but trust me, it works and I am much happier with the games I love as a result.

And the recent Greymoor expansion for ESO was a disaster. Enough to kill some games. But here I am, happy with it, as I have learned to accept that a game's design is entirely out of my control.

 

[Factabulous]

Too late - the forums do this before each release - build it up, make up stuff and then rage about what's delivered.

I think most devs think it's nice that people care, and ignore the rest - and I think I'm going to try and join them in that. Now where are those fleet carriers ...

 

[Turd Ferguson]

all I expect is a Halo-like gankfest that I won't be participating in.

 

[Deleted member 110222]

all I expect is a Halo-like gankfest that I won't be participating in.

Okay.

 

[Vasco Sapien]

all I expect is a Halo-like gankfest that I won't be participating in.

Im terrible at Ship combat but good at FPS.
I might actually have a chance to be good at ED.

 

[Faybs]

Im terrible at Ship combat but good at FPS.
I might actually have a chance to be good at ED.

That's me as well, and why I mostly play star citizen now - I get to fly a starship and FPS all in the same game. Being able to do that without constant crashes, disconnects and weird bugs would be a dream come true. There are a lot of ex-ED people playing SC right now, and I bet a lot of them are going to come back because of this.

 

[Nutter]

This is very important advice here.

Do not, under any circumstances, start to build up expectations of what Odyssey "must" be, months before it is due to launch. (Almost a year, even)

Seriously, one of the worst things we can do at this point is start discussing what we will be able to do, how it will work, etc.

I see this mistake happen in MMO expansion launches all the time and it leads to many, many disagreements and worse.

The reality is this. Features are going to change. Things might, and probably will, get cut, to a small extent. Other things might be added that nobody expects.

Definitely don't lose sight of the fact that the world is a very different place now and everyone is still adapting, Frontier included. This will create challenges, especially for a studio that has always worked in-house.

This should be MO for online games. But yeah. Please. Just bear in mind that this is a game and hiccups do happen.

I learned this lesson during my break from ED, where I went on to MMORPGs. I learned this big lesson for expansions: Expect nothing, and you cannot be disappointed. An extreme view, sure, but trust me, it works and I am much happier with the games I love as a result.

And the recent Greymoor expansion for ESO was a disaster. Enough to kill some games. But here I am, happy with it, as I have learned to accept that a game's design is entirely out of my control.

Bit late to the Party methinks

 

[Turd Ferguson]

Im terrible at Ship combat but good at FPS.
I might actually have a chance to be good at ED.

I'm not a big FPS player - I do like single-player FPS and enjoyed HL:Alyx very much. That said, I'm sure there are developers out there that can do FPS and in particular FPS with VR support better than FDev. I'm pretty convinced that MOST developers would do a better job at space combat that supports VR as well if they were to get into it. FDev's only advantage in that space is that they're the only ones. In the FPS space, they would have competition and I don't think they're up to the challenge given their track record of the past 5 years.

 

[Deareim]

Knowing FD history of epic failures, i don't see why it would change.

 

[Sysmon]

This is very important advice here.

Do not, under any circumstances, start to build up expectations of what Odyssey "must" be, months before it is due to launch. (Almost a year, even)

Seriously, one of the worst things we can do at this point is start discussing what we will be able to do, how it will work, etc.

I see this mistake happen in MMO expansion launches all the time and it leads to many, many disagreements and worse.

The reality is this. Features are going to change. Things might, and probably will, get cut, to a small extent. Other things might be added that nobody expects.

Definitely don't lose sight of the fact that the world is a very different place now and everyone is still adapting, Frontier included. This will create challenges, especially for a studio that has always worked in-house.

This should be MO for online games. But yeah. Please. Just bear in mind that this is a game and hiccups do happen.

I learned this lesson during my break from ED, where I went on to MMORPGs. I learned this big lesson for expansions: Expect nothing, and you cannot be disappointed. An extreme view, sure, but trust me, it works and I am much happier with the games I love as a result.

And the recent Greymoor expansion for ESO was a disaster. Enough to kill some games. But here I am, happy with it, as I have learned to accept that a game's design is entirely out of my control.

Ha! Have you ever seen the hype train not go ballistic? The forum has already exploded.

Good idea to not expect anything. There's an old saying: Don't worry and you only get hurt once. If you worry you will hurt twice.

S

 

[Enderby]

Wow ok thanks for telling me what to do bout it cos i was kinda confused

I wish i was so wise like you
Thanks for taking the time

 

[space voyager]

I AM HYPED LIKE A HYPE BALLOON!

 

[Ezren]

all I expect is a Halo-like gankfest that I won't be participating in.

If the combat is as crisp as Halo, we would be exceptionally lucky.

 

[Krash]

Someone said on reddit I should be able to walk along the crater rim of a moon and look up and see my fleet carrier in orbit. I believed him, hence I'm already planning my rage quit if I don't get to see my FC in orbit.

 

[Rat Catcher]

I just expect to be playing as I do today, whatever Odyssey brings will just be a bit more on top, where, as today, I'll play exactly how I wish, when I wish and with (or without) whom I wish

Great teaser though

 

[Alien]

If I can't upload my consciousness to FDev's servers, I will rage quit and demand a refund or the stuffed fluffy bunny rabbit gets it*.

* this is a joke post, if it doesn't have X feature, I will still play and enjoy the game. I won't be rage quitting, or demanding a refund and no stuffed fluffy bunnies will be harmed.

 

[sandkid]

Dude...we're at 19 months since New Era was announced.

Way, way late to the hype-control point.

I'm not saying we'll reach NMS levels of hypery...but I'm not saying we won't, either.
This could be really, really interesting to study as it progresses.

 

[Deleted member 110222]

Dude...we're at 19 months since New Era was announced.

Way, way late to the hype-control point.

I'm not saying we'll reach NMS levels of hypery...but I'm not saying we won't, either.
This could be really, really interesting to study as it progresses.

I consider anything speculated before today's announcement as pure rubbish, as there was nothing to base it off. Before today it remained entirely possible that legs were not ever going to happen.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

If the combat is as crisp as Halo, we would be exceptionally lucky.

but....you could just play Halo.

 

[Hopix]

You're about 5 years too late.