With the new Interstellar Initiative even FDev is resorting to external tools! AKA Bridging the Fail

[Turd Ferguson]

As you've probably seen the firsf Interstellar Initiative is upon us and the goal is to VOTE VIA THE FLITE DANGEROUS FORUM!

Even FDev is now resorting to external tools to make the game playable.

The vote itself is almost completely inconsequential as it will determine which of several systems that are close together will host a station for a ferry to Guardian sites.

It is also unclear why such a ferry would be necessary as the distance isn't that far and only serves to highlight that access to certain ingame items have been locked behind auch a grindwall amd convoluted gameplay that they had to create a bypass so new players could access Guardian content.

Of course my cynical side thinks that this is just FDev putting the cart before the horse and the guardian stuff is about to feature prominently in upcoming content....like grinding guardian materials to synthesize reloads for new guardian weapons....establishing a new time-sink currency.

If you're going to do an ingame ferry, why not Colonia?

....but most importantly if you're going to add a replacement for CGs into the game, why not....ya know....put it IN THE GAME?

is Elite turning into a "choose your own adventure" book where everyone votes on the forum and then reads about it in Galnet?

 

[Vandaahl]

A voting mechanism in game would mean you have to built, test and distribute it to (potentially) 2 mil game installations, while a central voting mech on the forums is updated in erm... minutes? (sry Brett).

Anywho, I can understand, for something as new as this and to see how thing fair, that they do it the way they do. I can also imagine, that if this is indeed the way forward, that it will be replaced with a ingame version.

Either way, are external tools a bad thing?

 

[Valorin]

As you've probably seen the firsf Interstellar Initiative is upon us and the goal is to VOTE VIA THE FLITE DANGEROUS FORUM!

Even FDev is now resorting to external tools to make the game playable.

The vote itself is almost completely inconsequential as it will determine which of several systems that are close together will host a station for a ferry to Guardian sites.

It is also unclear why such a ferry would be necessary as the distance isn't that far and only serves to highlight that access to certain ingame items have been locked behind auch a grindwall amd convoluted gameplay that they had to create a bypass so new players could access Guardian content.

Of course my cynical side thinks that this is just FDev putting the cart before the horse and the guardian stuff is about to feature prominently in upcoming content....like grinding guardian materials to synthesize reloads for new guardian weapons....establishing a new time-sink currency.

If you're going to do an ingame ferry, why not Colonia?

....but most importantly if you're going to add a replacement for CGs into the game, why not....ya know....put it IN THE GAME?

is Elite turning into a "choose your own adventure" book where everyone votes on the forum and then reads about it in Galnet?

And where is the negative stuff you promised with the thread's name? Oh, I see, it's just that complainodrama thing again that's going around on the internet...

 

[Lightspeed]

I'm waiting for the "I voted and got ganked" thread

 

[Turd Ferguson]

No external tools arw great. The game would be unplayable without them.

However starting a new ingame feature from a completely out-of-game mechanic is perhaps not the best-foot-forward approach.

 

[Valorin]

I... can't help to be not bothered at all.

 

[CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost]

I'm waiting for the "I voted and got ganked" thread

Voting should only be possible in Open Mode!
There is no way to oppose the voting by blowing up CMDR ships!

 

[Ian Skippy]

is Elite turning into a "choose your own adventure" book where everyone votes on the forum and then reads about it in Galnet?

You just get to vote in one online poll, it isn't the end of the world mate.

 

[Vandaahl]

However starting a new ingame feature from a completely out-of-game mechanic is perhaps not the best-foot-forward approach.

Why not?

 

[Turd Ferguson]

Voting should only be possible in Open Mode!
There is no way to oppose the voting by blowing up CMDR ships!

LOL! voting meta build.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

Why not?

this game does not require players to have forum accounts, read countless newsletters, and track all the phantom events technology and stories in Galnet that never actually have any bearing on the game itself. By moving decisions that have ingame effect out of the game you limit participation to a very small fraction of players. Most of them not new players.

 

[Vedmo]

It's a rigged Bubblexit vote anyway, not a single choice for anything other than leave the Bubble.

Seriously though, I totally get criticisms of it being a forum vote and not even mentioned in game, but I can't help but envision some internal Frontier discussion about what system, with someone bringing up letting the players pick, then a bunch of people on a Friday afternoon working to relegate the voting process to anyone other than them, leaving the person not in attendance in charge.

I think they threw us a bone on an ultimately pretty meaningless choice of systems in a prelude to the actual game event, and of course many of the rabid players had to find the worst in it.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

...and after much hype and preparation the ferry will just get attacked by Thargoids and go nowhere when the Devs decide they don't really want to do this anyway.

 

[Mangal Oemie]

After the drag drama, now this...

Elite player focus group/sounding board now!

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...vent-game-and-communication-disasters.510390/

You're displaying with every announcement you need it. Desperately....

 

[Straha Yeagar]

A voting mechanism in game would mean you have to built, test and distribute it to (potentially) 2 mil game installations, while a central voting mech on the forums is updated in erm... minutes? (sry Brett).

Anywho, I can understand, for something as new as this and to see how thing fair, that they do it the way they do. I can also imagine, that if this is indeed the way forward, that it will be replaced with a ingame version.

Either way, are external tools a bad thing?

A voting mechanism is already in game...Power Play has had weekly in game voting for years now. Nothing new would need to be built.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

If you're going to do an ingame ferry, why not Colonia?

While i'm not impressed with how this thing is starting, i do not think they should run a ferry as far as Colonia. If they did it would just become an extension of the bubble.

 

[Ian Skippy]

It's a rigged Bubblexit vote anyway, not a single choice for anything other than leave the Bubble.

Seriously though, I totally get criticisms of it being a forum vote and not even mentioned in game, but I can't help but envision some internal Frontier discussion about what system, with someone bringing up letting the players pick, then a bunch of people on a Friday afternoon working to relegate the voting process to anyone other than them, leaving the person not in attendance in charge.

I think they threw us a bone on an ultimately pretty meaningless choice of systems in a prelude to the actual game event, and of course many of the rabid players had to find the worst in it.

This. Its a minor choice, vote if you care or dont if you do not. Or use this for your weekly moan if you're that kind of person.

 

[IndigoWyrd]

I’m standing very firmly by a suggestion I made quite some time ago, but now feel needs to be revisited:

Elite needs a phone Companion app.

Initially I’d fielded this concept as a means of making use of our NPC pilots during “down time”, but the addition of this really screams the need for something like this. Got something to put to a vote? Put it in the Companion. Even GalNet could be fed through a Companion app.

 

[Dommarraa]

I’m standing very firmly by a suggestion I made quite some time ago, but now feel needs to be revisited:

Elite needs a phone Companion app.

Initially I’d fielded this concept as a means of making use of our NPC pilots during “down time”, but the addition of this really screams the need for something like this. Got something to put to a vote? Put it in the Companion. Even GalNet could be fed through a Companion app.

Yes, but it would require 101 developers. We dont have that many.

 

[CMDR Cosmic Spacehead]

Relax folks.
It's just a vote for which system this ferry with use, and we get to decide it.

The actual in game stuff probably isn't ready to launch yet, so they're probably just trying to tick things over on here for the time being.