Wolves are pack animals, and while there are scuffs among the alpha's and the other wolves, they seem to fight ALL the time and are constantly injured and there seems to be no remedy except to only keep the alphas in and the pups until they age up and just sell them/release them into the wild. I wish the pack system worked a little better and the animals just didn't fight all the time and I am continually calling a vet into the enclosure.
Wolves
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I'm just wondering - when you check the zoopedia, it will tell you about how many individuals of each gender are supposed to be in a pack/herd. I know they do this with the warthogs and the ostriches (for example, it will say no more than one male or up to 6 females in a group or something like that). Have you checked that out? Species with too many males/females in one enclosure would probably fight, I'm guessing.
Ya they should only fight if you add a new wolf to the pack and when u first add the wolves to determine whos alpha
I had a breeding pair of AWD that ended up having 2 pups. The male pup ended up getting glitched in a box so he was no longer in the habitat, but the female pup grew into an adult and suddenly the mother and the daughter were constantly fighting and injuring one another. There was just the 3 of them in a huge habitat... So group size definitely had no factor in fighting lol
Except when you say "so group size definitely had no factor in fighting lol", I'm thinking that group size likely did have a factor in the fighting. "Lol".
Because it's very common for animals, once they mature, to be split up from their parents to avoid things like sexual competition, fighting for dominance, etc. Zoos have to remove young adult males all the time when they mature or they will fight with the fathers. I can't speak for wolves specifically, but it makes sense that you would need to watch for that in this game.
Not sure why you're choosing to be snarky, but okay then.
Regardless, group size said you could have up to 4 females. Ridiculous if you then have to ensure none of said females are related. Completely takes the fun out of the game.
I definitely think fighting so often takes some of the fun out of the game, especially in animals with otherwise very high welfare. But also remember that IRL, aggression is a real problem in zoos that is experienced on a daily basis, not just when settling leadership disputes.
I would prefer that we can decrease the rate of fights - for example, animals with high welfare fight less (especially animals that are well-enriched with lots to do) and/or high levels of research leads to less fighting.
If it were up to me I’d want more complex social dynamics (I.e. animals remember who beat them in fights and actively try to avoid them in the future, to stop animals from repeatedly fighting each other) but it’s not a dealbreaker or anything, it would just be nice to have
I would prefer that we can decrease the rate of fights - for example, animals with high welfare fight less (especially animals that are well-enriched with lots to do) and/or high levels of research leads to less fighting.
If it were up to me I’d want more complex social dynamics (I.e. animals remember who beat them in fights and actively try to avoid them in the future, to stop animals from repeatedly fighting each other) but it’s not a dealbreaker or anything, it would just be nice to have
Just to clarify, the wolf zoopedia definitely said you could either have a single adult pair OR bachelor groups of females or males. I agree it's a bit weird and inaccurate but then so is the single male lion in a pride when most prides have 2 or 3 breeding males who can be related or unrelated. So in the beta at least they went for simplicity over complex social dynamics.