about a year and half. I really wanted to make sure I understood it. I've scanned plenty of ships high waking. I've never had to do it to get out of a mess. Because I don't play in open because I ultimately just don't feel like playing fox/hound with people. I have other games to play for my PvP experience. I will however entertain Ganksalot's offer if only for my edification. Still won't change my mind about would you start over if....
Would you start over if Frontier was to start a separate open only server?
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So no True Scotsman. Geeze how many logical fallacies can you fit in your tantrum that most (regardless I am on PS4) on here or at least in this thread don't or won't start over...
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Why would I do that? Trolling the immature is much more fun!
no I wouldn't. I know that when I decided to play open only I had to adjust my play style accordingly. no more flying around paper ships in the bubble, making sure all important blueprints pinned, planning my routes, hitting ctrl+b every time I log on, and focusing on survival in general instead of min-maxing everything. it's actually more of a mentality than skills. learning how to evade a gank is actually simple and doesn't require much skill. i find people going into open unprepared and thinking they will play the same game as in solo/pg just foolish. the ones that blame players like me for their failures in game I look down on.
It's not a matter of skill or knowledge (to me). It's more matter of people. If i'm a neutral trader and i'm blown up because my ship is weak , with no piracy involved there is no point. The "ganker" that did this , did it for fun / ego / superiority. I'm not into that. If game made some risk about being pirated yeah i'll gladly come , but people act more like murderer than pirates. And to be honest the game lack tools for piracy.
It lack focus. Imagine that war may be actually more rare and hight rewarding , like some automatic war CG with rewards for the best ect. With open boost for score or whatever . Imagine if pvp actually had some aim out of meaningless fight/training they do ?
As usual elite have a world of possibilities, but lack dev or will to devellop this.
But open as it is now ? no. 0 positiv interaction appart talking (and you can do it in solo/pg LOL) if you'r not pvp'er. Thats the point , what should lead you to open is people. But appart pvp you cant really interact with them. Funny flying with friend works for some time, but after , what to do ?
Can you elaborate how can "you suck" in something that require 0 skill? i mean PVE combat in general
I've been out of the for the duration of covid (no room for spaceship flying toys and working from home gubbins). However engineer's, shindez and such are always busy. I saw lots of random players just pottering in the bubble, more than I've ever seen before recently. The squadrons pretty well in the middle though.
I have no idea what kind of player you may (or indeed, may not) be, but from that comment it appears you consider yourself something special... in a game... OK, it takes all kinds I suppose...
I'll try not to bait you further, it is so hard...
Yes open server and Iron Man mode only.
It would be the most peaceful environment.
Maybe 1000 players across the galaxy.
It would be the most peaceful environment.
Maybe 1000 players across the galaxy.
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Oh, wait. If I was offered a million dollars I'd probably change my answer from "no" to "yes". How long would I have to carry on playing before going back to the original game?
Might fare better without the super condescending attitude.
Just a thought, I guess this wasn't a real discussion thread considering the premise of observing how long it takes to get it locked.
I didn't see the need for discussion at all as you noted.
So PS4 (lack of Xplay), Xbone, PC, Mobile, all irrelevant in the end. Seems like it was designed for two fold. To get locked, the quicker the better (OP's prophecy) and secondly self righteous indignation.
In a theoretical universe where modes aren't used as a crutch to keep odd PvP feel, strange PvE orientation on important game mechanics, anemic security response that will do little against gankers, monetary consequences (like rebuy or bounties) being really oddly balanced, important combat balance numerics like typical TTK's being basically randomized... and so on... basically, in a theoretical universe where Elite: Dangerous is designed to work as a game with proper PvP, in that game I would be all for a separate Open Only server. Singleplayers can then stay in a snapshot of that server where they can play in the same universe, but obviously not affect things like BGS directly, that's obviously ridicilous.
As it is right now? Eeeeh... will there actually be something enjoyable? Will the player threat actually add something?
I think at some point the idea that this game would be designed with PvP in mind faded away... I feel like things like EDD tried to work out how nonconsensual PvP would work in a good way... look up a typical video of high-level PvP to see what the current state is.
If I had a chance to go back to my old account, I would definitely want to try out 'open only' server. Just to see a galaxy with BGS factions that make sense in some way would be worth it. I don't think I would want to stay, but it would be an interesting experiment. And maybe I am wrong and there will be interesting gameplay?
As it is right now? Eeeeh... will there actually be something enjoyable? Will the player threat actually add something?
I think at some point the idea that this game would be designed with PvP in mind faded away... I feel like things like EDD tried to work out how nonconsensual PvP would work in a good way... look up a typical video of high-level PvP to see what the current state is.
If I had a chance to go back to my old account, I would definitely want to try out 'open only' server. Just to see a galaxy with BGS factions that make sense in some way would be worth it. I don't think I would want to stay, but it would be an interesting experiment. And maybe I am wrong and there will be interesting gameplay?
Given the hilarious amount of front loading in your opening post I wonder why you bothered posting this at all.
In particular, it's probably not the best idea to ask people not to give their opinion on why people don't play in open if you're then going to include statements like 'Opposed to popular belief, that all gankers were molested as children, the lack of competitive content is what drives the more experienced and established players towards ganking' since you're doing exactly what you don't want other people to do there; ascribing a generalised opinion to a group of people.
That's without even getting into the hilarious non sequitur of 'the reason people choose to engage in the least challenging PVP activity possible is that the game isn't competitive enough' which is essentially what you wrote there
Anyway, no.
In particular, it's probably not the best idea to ask people not to give their opinion on why people don't play in open if you're then going to include statements like 'Opposed to popular belief, that all gankers were molested as children, the lack of competitive content is what drives the more experienced and established players towards ganking' since you're doing exactly what you don't want other people to do there; ascribing a generalised opinion to a group of people.
That's without even getting into the hilarious non sequitur of 'the reason people choose to engage in the least challenging PVP activity possible is that the game isn't competitive enough' which is essentially what you wrote there
Anyway, no.
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I love CQC and wish that was more developed. A strong PvP build in ED is just too op for the rest of game combat in the game imo and with a good build every fight is too much a long drawn out battle of attrician. Glad some lime it but not for me. Star wars squadrons OTOH has me interested and dare I say is now the better example than Cod for good space PvP shooter (hopefully)
Standard fare, best dealt with by either ignoring or offering a glass of milk and a biscuit...
+1 to this! It's a bit like a good harmless sport.
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I fought some of the best in this game and I can hold my ground against pretty much anyone. I don't combat log or cheat in general. I don't run to solo when I meet opposition. I take a re-buy as part of the game and don't go whine about it to anyone. I don't ever get ganked as I know how to get away from it. I do everything in open, mining, davs hope, whatever. I have all ranks at max, I fly fa-off in combat, I use mostly fixed weapons. I held one of leader positions in one of the largest power play group until I got sick of the 5C and other problems with PP. so you tell me, am I an average player of ED?
Yup
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