wow just wow !

Stressfest · Dec 17, 2015

Yes, I had noticed haha.. such is life. I'll put horizons on the back burner for a while and concentrate on the main game. Not really much of a fan from what I've seen so far anyways..

Serenitie · Dec 17, 2015

I haven't noticed the increased dificulty. I am still having an easy time honestly o.o Either you are unlucky or I am super lucky

beedles · Dec 17, 2015

for those of you that want an honest discussion of what wrong with this game now that horizon's is out go to steam and see what real players are talking about and not the hate filled fan boys here! for what its worth I WAS enjoying this game and even bought a top end flight stick to play because I was having so much fun but now with all the mean spirted people in these forums and the ridiculous grind for credits versus death due to changes I wont be playing, star citizen here I come 2.0. maybe time will weed out these issues.

YoBuck · Dec 17, 2015

beedles said:
for those of you that want an honest discussion of what wrong with this game now that horizon's is out go to steam and see what real players are talking about and not the hate filled fan boys here! for what its worth I WAS enjoying this game and even bought a top end flight stick to play because I was having so much fun but now with all the mean spirted people in these forums and the ridiculous grind for credits versus death due to changes I wont be playing, star citizen here I come 2.0. maybe time will weed out these issues.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA bye

-Joe · Dec 17, 2015

Go play Star Crackers, it's perfect for you.... and don't come back.

I fly FA on/off optimise systems, use the Cobras speed and fight close in and agressive. I think the game has got tougher. Not complaining at all, it's better with

smarter NPC's.

Barking_Mad · Dec 17, 2015

beedles said:
for those of you that want an honest discussion of what wrong with this game now that horizon's is out go to steam and see what real players are talking about and not the hate filled fan boys here! for what its worth I WAS enjoying this game and even bought a top end flight stick to play because I was having so much fun but now with all the mean spirted people in these forums and the ridiculous grind for credits versus death due to changes I wont be playing, star citizen here I come 2.0. maybe time will weed out these issues.

Wind up or troll. You decide. My trolldar saw a new poster and the sirens went off. BTW I've heard that SC will also solve global warming.

Noddie · Dec 17, 2015

I did think it was a bit stupid that I could take out NPC anacondas in a cobra or viper....

I suspect that being wanted is more costly now, too.

shadragon · Dec 17, 2015

CaptainKremmen said:
Know when to fight and when to run.

Succinct is the word I was looking for.

Vyrsai · Dec 17, 2015

Looks like the OP never actually wanted any help. Go figure.

SlickReed · Dec 17, 2015

Well it is called Elite: DANGEROUS. So many players whined about how easy the game was before, well here we are. Time to wing up for missions.

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CaptainKremmen said:
Elite's been "out" for a year and a day.

A year. A whole year of flying in a galaxy full of "I'm gonna boil you up" trash-talking blithering hopeless NPC idiots.

Well, sounds like they are no longer a race of pathetic, capitulating morons...

"Hostile" NPCs don't always just roll over, show us their belly, and wobble along waiting for us to pop their ship.

"Hostile" NPCs don't always sit there being irrationally docile, waiting for us to get around to focusing solely on popping their ship.

What to do?

Know when to fight and when to run.

Work on situational awareness. Don't get target tunnel vision.

Bring a friend... then it's always "two against...", as opposed to "one pilot against the galaxy".

Going to a dangerous place, looking for a fight? Surviving unscathed should NOT be a foregone conclusion.

Ask yourself, why was one hostile Player more dangerous than an entire conflict zone full of "hostile" NPCs?

Because the Player was going to be effective at combat.

I, for one, am very pleased to see that NPCs are finally being regarded as being somewhat effective... even if they have to rely on numbers to get there!

Yeah, what he said!

SlickReed · Dec 17, 2015

beedles said:
Thank you for blaming ME for changes made to npcs in the game because it obviously my fault things have changed since horizons. I should just be thankful for your skill maybe you could link some videos of your awesomeness. I must be one useless pilot not to be able to do what you do ohh great one! BTW could you list your statistic for the majority that are having no issues ? you work for fronitier? post those stats please luv to se them

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this has nothing to do with my learning the game it has to do with changes made to the game. things I could do before I cant now and that's somehow my fault for not learning? I didn't make these changes and I have a right to a opinion on them.

Dude, calm down. have you tried different tactics at all? I noticed that the NPCs joust alot more now, you will have to learn to counter this with gimbal weapons and proper power management. AND LEARN WHEN TO RUN AWAY!

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beedles said:
for those of you that want an honest discussion of what wrong with this game now that horizon's is out go to steam and see what real players are talking about and not the hate filled fan boys here! for what its worth I WAS enjoying this game and even bought a top end flight stick to play because I was having so much fun but now with all the mean spirted people in these forums and the ridiculous grind for credits versus death due to changes I wont be playing, star citizen here I come 2.0. maybe time will weed out these issues.

This is what I think about steam forums.

[video=youtube;0znNiN0lYAQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0znNiN0lYAQ[/video]

CaptainSeriousFun · Dec 17, 2015

beedles said:
for those of you that want an honest discussion of what wrong with this game now that horizon's is out go to steam and see what real players are talking about and not the hate filled fan boys here! for what its worth I WAS enjoying this game and even bought a top end flight stick to play because I was having so much fun but now with all the mean spirted people in these forums and the ridiculous grind for credits versus death due to changes I wont be playing, star citizen here I come 2.0. maybe time will weed out these issues.

Okay...why would you let 5-6, or 10, or even 1000 forum posts - on Steam, or here - prevent you from engaging a game you invested in? You were having "so much fun" just doing one thing? Star Citizen Alpha 2.0 is, at time of this writing, garbage. You won't inure yourself from any frustration playing that (I'm $400 in over at SC, btw).

Instead, explore the positive recommendations from this thread, try them out, and see what works for you. IOW, reflect the maturity you lament in other posters in how you approach this.

Or don't.

Alderius · Dec 17, 2015

After skimming more than a few rants... er... comments, regarding how tough things have become and how even pythons have become useless, I tentatively took my python out to the local nav beacon (still in Kausalya as I was participating in the CG there) where I thought I could test the waters with single ships and work up to wings. Well, it was really just business as usual. I took on sidewinders, cobras, worked up to eagles, vipers, fed corvettes etc etc, then wings of two and it was not really much challenge, just as you'd expect with a python. The only big ships that came in were a wing of 3 master 'condas, but they were clean so no go for me. The NPC levels were up around master/elite, and taking on a wing of a couple of vipers was no problem at all (nothing more challenging showed up). Only "odd" thing was I was just drifting along for a few minutes and an NPC dropped close and rammed me, but it didn't even phase the shields. Went back to the station and turned in $400k in bounties.
Sorry OP, you're experience is totally different than mine.....

Good Luck,
CMDR Alderius

Dave1235 · Dec 18, 2015

beedles said:
for those of you that want an honest discussion of what wrong with this game now that horizon's is out go to steam and see what real players are talking about and not the hate filled fan boys here! for what its worth I WAS enjoying this game and even bought a top end flight stick to play because I was having so much fun but now with all the mean spirted people in these forums and the ridiculous grind for credits versus death due to changes I wont be playing, star citizen here I come 2.0. maybe time will weed out these issues.

"Real players" ok you asked for it. You do realise sc involves flyin and shooting to ? Tetris maybe?

Gully Foyle · Dec 18, 2015

Perhaps the OP should just change his tactics?
I know I did when the AI got tougher.
Cheers CMDRS!
o7

Surly_Badger · Dec 18, 2015

beedles said:
IS it me or is the game unplayable now?

It's you.

Doolittle · Dec 18, 2015

Limoncello Lizard said:
Have you gone up in combat rank recently? That will make NPCs tougher. But you aren't the first to complain about NPCs getting a buff.

If that's true that is cheezy. NPCs get a buff when you do, think there's something wrong with that. Might sound right for an arcade single player game, but not an MP game where your wingman would have a disadvantage with a less rank against NPCs. Which would make ships component specs useless if a buff is applied.

Midian27 · Dec 18, 2015

Doolittle said:
If that's true that is cheezy. NPCs get a buff when you do, think there's something wrong with that. Might sound right for an arcade single player game, but not an MP game where your wingman would have a disadvantage with a less rank against NPCs. Which would make ships component specs useless if a buff is applied.

Pretty sure what he said is false. I'm at deadly combat rank atm and never noticed the NPCs "power up" between ranks.

Ozram · Dec 18, 2015

Yeah, I must say I haven't had the same trouble as the op. I've gone into some Haz Rez locations and CZ's specifically to test if OP was right and I just got lucky but after several hours put in I can say with some certainty that my experience is very different. Iced had to be a bit more careful around some NPCs, and watch my back a bit more but that's all good in my book. Tests done in Courier, Cobra, Vulture and trade Python.

CMDR Crustatious Cornelius Pig · Dec 18, 2015

beedles said:
I have died twice so far not playing till this gets fixed I cant afford to loose that much money. and was not hostile to those factions and they all where from different solo I just keep getting jump once I attack by all the wanted in the area! my shield died in like 2 sec or less also ate up my ship fast too once shield went down could not even get away.

I sympathize a little but this is Elite Dangerous