The only vague option is see to change things with the Thargoids is to take stations that have been attacked from Aegis control. I'll be disappointed if this might be our only way to influence peace instead of war.
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The only vague option is see to change things with the Thargoids is to take stations that have been attacked from Aegis control. I'll be disappointed if this might be our only way to influence peace instead of war.
I believe they did; they told us from the get-go that the story would be driven by player actions; for example, the entire Jacques Station story line was guided by the players. JS had a botched jump because some players brought UA's onto the station. Players launched a rescue effort after someone came across JS, and Frontier responded by setting up CG's to repair JS. Players wanted to setup colonisation efforts around JS; and the Colonia Initiative was born from that.
This is, I think, another aspect of that. The actions we are taking, directly affect the progression of the Thargoid story. If we hadn't attacked them first, we'd likely be on a different path right now; as it is, some players have itchy trigger fingers.
This attack is likely in retaliation to something we've already done. I think it was Oracle that had some alien something something on it?
Food for thought I guess.
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Let's not jump to any hasty conclusions is what I am saying. We are led to believe the Thargoids are more than a pew-pew target and FD apparently have a bible type book on the overall race.
We should ALL be familiar by now with FD's pace of delivery of story content, and essentially there are 2 more chapters potentially in the works before the year's end. The most recent update introduced a new mechanic to the game - Thargoid station attacks, which is unlikely to be a one-off but I would not be surprised if those attacks are constrained to the Pleiades nebula. Personally, I have relocated my fleet to a planet based ship yard in the system I use as a base in the bubble as a precautionary measure so if the Thargoids do come knocking in the bubble I am not caught completely off guard.
The development of anti-Thargoid weaponry seems to be primarily a result of certain aggressive types in the Human factions assuming the worst but perhaps hoping for the better. It is a natural evolution of the situation given the activities of at least some. AEGIS is probably a greater threat to humanity in the long run given their apparent xenophobic leanings.
As for opportunities for things to happen in story terms, I have no illusions that the alternatives will be presented to us soon nor on a silver platter with neon lights shouting alternative to war here.
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I disagree with your conclusions - if the previous Thargoid interactions were Thargoid Wars I, then this could be considered the beginning of Thargoid Wars II. As with the two World Wars, the actors and motives involved were at least a little different and where the Thargoid incidents are involved now there is no substantial evidence to prove your conclusions. We do not know if who/what we are dealing with - we know they are Thargoids but not the controlling body/bodies nor their explicit intent.
Tarring all Thargoids with the same brush as the Thargoids that humans previously encountered (a long time ago) is just demonstrating xenophobic patterns of thought given that we are led to believe that the Thargoids are not just one faction. How would people like it if all humans were considered hostile megalomaniacs intent on world domination/destruction just because of a handful of individuals who might think/act that way.
To try and keep things in perspective, you dismiss morality as if it does not matter but it always matters... it is what separates humans from animals, take morality out of the equation and the resulting actions are no longer humane. Sometimes atrocities are justified in the name of preventing a greater atrocity but it does not mean that there are not viable alternatives that could avoid any form of atrocity.
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See, now THIS is how it's done.
Meanwhile the Thargoid threat intensifies.
I was often in HIP 17034 my Xeno haunting attempt ground the last days. And now I have 8 out of 10 USS that are lvl 7.
It becomes difficult to even find a lonely lvl 5.
I was often in HIP 17034 my Xeno haunting attempt ground the last days. And now I have 8 out of 10 USS that are lvl 7.
It becomes difficult to even find a lonely lvl 5.
You need to study your history better. World War II was really World War I PART 2, as in the first directly lead to the second. The reparations demanded by the allies (excepting the US, which was firmly against that) plus the economic damage done by the war, directly lead to Germany militarizing and annexing countries. As for the Japanese, they never stopped their expansions/conquests started during the first World War, but not really considered part of it. I say all this having taken a 400 level course on US Military History (all of it up to Desert Storm), a 500 level course on the Pacific War (1930-45), and studying WWII as a hobby. The reason there wasn't a World War 3 twenty years later was that US spent a lot of money rebuilding both Europe (Allies AND Axis countries) and Japan, which is the first time in history a victorious country has rebuilt a conquered ones and not occupied them.
As for painting all the Thargoids with the same brush - they're a hive minded species! I'm sorry this hasn't been explicitly demonstrating to you in game yet, but that's the way it is.
Xenophobic? I was willing to give them a chance even AFTER they attacked that Federation convoy, which finally identified them as Thargoids. Then they proceeded to attack Federation, Imperial, and Civilian targets AND abduct survivors! At that point, yeah, I joined the camp that is for giving them a bloody nose.
Oh, and the Thargoids don't paint us all with one brush because they know we act as individuals. Again, this definitively highlighted in several of the books.
When it's the survival of our species, or theirs, and they're the ones encroaching, it's pretty simple. But if you want to keep equivocating and all that, fine. If the mycoid virus hadn't been used years ago, we wouldn't be around to have the discussion now.
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It can be reasonably argued that we have encroached on their territory, the Barnacles were there before we started heavily colonising that specific region.
As I stated earlier, if they had attacked long established stations in the bubble rather than stations around Pleiades then it might be a different matter.
As for them abducted escape pods, did we not kill barnacles first.
WRT WW1 and WW2, while WW2 was inevitable it was still different people in power which was my point.