Troy_McClure
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Ahh you have learned much Grasshopper!
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One false move here & you're Jim Davidson, so no accents please..just do it in your normal voice! Thank you
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You gave the FDL a bigger Power Plant...
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Ahh you have learned much Grasshopper!
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One false move here & you're Jim Davidson, so no accents please..just do it in your normal voice! Thank you
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Indeed, those are two very different sides of combat.
*Edit - Oops, hit submit before I was done. I really like the Vulture as an Assassination ship as well. Small and agile for a quick interdiction resolution and plenty of power and agility to finish off the target.
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Vulture with frag/beam or frag/plasma flown right is an absolute beast
Gimbal-Burst/Plasma works also very well,
use the burst for shields and weak targets, plasma
as pp sniper, accompanied with the odd burst to the plant.
Eh eh! Only if flown by Alexander the Grape!
Yep, I have read about your Vulture loadout...but sadly have never ever met a Vulture commander able to defeat my Federal Frag Ship.Can't wait for the day we finally meet for a glorious fight though!
But now, don't you think that a FAS with frag/beam or frag/plasma would leave no chance to the Vulture? PvP is about giving 100%, so why go for the Vulture?
Its because you need the heat sinks fo SCBs and that lowers the amount of shield boosters. So the lower shield capacity and low agility make them super easy to kill.
Based on the damage output and energy consumption, I would say that going for gimballed burst is a waste.
Also, the class 3 burst is not fast enough and it is hard to nail the full burst against anything but big slow ship.
Now on the other hand, the class 2 fixed burst is another story
And...I feel that we are drifting off topic now...
Uh... 150mj from 300mj doesnt make it a tank.
i know how to build a clipper. thanks...
Never said otherwise, nor did I mean to. I do think it would be a good idea not to ignore shield boosters: 20% boost from up to four of those can bring the non-tank ~450MJ to ~540...~810 (the latter being higher that the base-value of a Corvette's shields, and just shy of a Cutter)
and as a result you sacrifice the clippers DPS due to 6A PD and it will have to result to more inventive methods like ramming
I don't meant to start an argument here, but ramming isn't really an "inventive" way to deal with any situation:
[video=youtube;vF4iWIE77Ts]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF4iWIE77Ts[/video]
On a serious note, I do think ramming would be a waste of 4 perfectly good, though poorly spaced, harpoints.
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.. and unless it outperforms rails no one in an FDL is going to bring one to a fight. It's there because of the SCB changes (this is also why it's now also much colder running). Oh and the incensant screaming for it.
Just wait until the endless droning on for hours about the corvette range means it can suddenly jump 30ly (due to a bump up in FSD drive) and chase anything, anywhere, any time.
Never mind (at least) one is parked out at Sag A* having a party. Sort of makes the "my immersion!!!1" wailing over 100ly jaunts across the bubble being so horrific, seem. Well. So very silly.
I'd love to believe frontier make ship changes like this as an uncoached improvement for the betterment of the community. But mostly they don't. Ship changes have pretty universally been due to overwhelming noise.
I love the game and the Dev's are pretty cool but it's mostly squeaky wheel gets the good oil at present. Which is a shame. Because the entire range of ships really need a rethink.
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The Vutlure is possibly the only ship in the game that can consistently outmanoeuvre the FAS while also getting its weapons to bear on target with the minimum of adjustments in between evasive manoeuvres. If you're flying all fixed weapons on your FAS or FDL against a good pilot in a Vulture you can pretty much forget about hitting them.Eh eh! Only if flown by Alexander the Grape!
Can't wait for the day we finally meet for a glorious fight though!
But now, don't you think that a FAS with frag/beam or frag/plasma would leave no chance to the Vulture? PvP is about giving 100%, so why go for the Vulture?
The agility of the Vulture, the placement of its weapons and its much cheaper price tag is a major plus point in why someone would choose it as their main combat ship.
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Why should the FDL be inferior to the clipper and FAS? The FDL has enough weaknesses that it is in a good place. Pre buff FDL was not worth flying
What for? T7 needs an armor buff
Well, the Vulture costs less than one tenth off an FdL, a quarter of a Clipper, and a less than a third of a FAS... Couldn't expect it to be a fair match, did we?...
Actually, for what is costs, the Vulture is a lot of bang for buck. Same for the Clipper.
I would dare say that the Vulture is the most underpriced ship in all the galaxy's shipyards.
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I somewhat agree, however thanks to the rigid upgrade system it wasn't possible to make the slight increase to the powerplant which was needed, instead it had to go up a whole class and created a monster. Add in the maneuverability increase (also needed), and the change from the scb to the hrp meta and you elbow out almost all the other ships. Unfortunately this is a classic case of buffing/changing too many things at once.
The SCB changes had no effect on the fdl.
The larger powerplant was necessary so that it had enough power for 5 weapons. Fdl is already severely limited in internal slots and size of internal slots so i do not see it as being OP. Both Clipper and FAS are capable of having absurd amounts of armor and internals and decent jump range. Not so for the FAS.