You know what really grinds my gears?

Globusdiablo

Globusdiablo
The fact that more and more players are referring to the following modes:

  • Open mode
  • Mobius mode
  • Solo mode

Mobius is not a mode. It's a player driven private group.

If we keep this up maybe even FD will believe Mobius is a mode...
 

Trollymctrollerson

T
Gear grinding is good. Any and all grinds should be vehemently defended when pertaining to elite. If those gears rotated smoothly in a synchronous mesh of teeth, it would be too easy. You'd get bored and quit turning them. Besides, they are not actually grinding. It's all in your head.
 

Riverside

Riverside
Globusdiablo said:
The fact that more and more players are referring to the following modes:

  • Open mode
  • Mobius mode
  • Solo mode

Mobius is not a mode. It's a player driven private group.

If we keep this up maybe even FD will believe Mobius is a mode...
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I find this a little annoying too, not enough to correct people though. Good advertising for Mobius though ;)

If there ever were an official PvE mode added (I'm not a campaigner for this) I do hope they call it Mobius.
 

LeoBartlet

LeoBartlet
Globusdiablo said:
The fact that more and more players are referring to the following modes:

  • Open mode
  • Mobius mode
  • Solo mode

Mobius is not a mode. It's a player driven private group.

If we keep this up maybe even FD will believe Mobius is a mode...
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and if Frontier were to change it to Mobius mode we'd have...

[video=youtube;rYihhSS9kic]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYihhSS9kic&list=[/video]
 

Cmdr Eagleboy

Cmdr Eagleboy
Globusdiablo said:
The fact that more and more players are referring to the following modes:

  • Open mode
  • Mobius mode
  • Solo mode

Mobius is not a mode. It's a player driven private group.

If we keep this up maybe even FD will believe Mobius is a mode...
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So players also say Engineers is mandatory while I am keep flying in Open without any Engineered module.

As....players and people will say lot of things to re-confirm their bias or opinions how game should be.

Doesn't mean they are right or I am wrong.
 

Gun Star

Gun Star
They can always change open to how Bethesda is handling PVP in the up coming Fallout 76. If you want to attack someone you target them and attack. Your weapons only do 5% damage. If the person attacks back you can have full power weapons. If they dont and you keep attacking you get a high bounty on your head and your location marked on the map and become blind to any incoming enemies unless you can visually see them.

Then Open becomes PVE and a PVP environment.

I could only imagine the explosiveness of the forums if that happened.....I'm all for PVP and finding some balance, but it seems like Beth is going to the far extreme of promoting PVP with extreme consequences for people that do not want to and are attacked.
 

Riverside

Riverside
Gun Star said:
They can always change open to how Bethesda is handling PVP in the up coming Fallout 76. If you want to attack someone you target them and attack. Your weapons only do 5% damage. If the person attacks back you can have full power weapons. If they dont and you keep attacking you get a high bounty on your head and your location marked on the map and become blind to any incoming enemies unless you can visually see them.

Then Open becomes PVE and a PVP environment.

I could only imagine the explosiveness of the forums if that happened.....I'm all for PVP and finding some balance, but it seems like Beth is going to the far extreme of promoting PVP with extreme consequences for people that do not want to and are attacked.
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I like the idea, it'll be interesting to see how it fairs as time goes on. This is something of an issue for many openworld games, I guess as different ideas are implemented by different games an optimal solution will rise to popularity.
 

Bacalao

Bacalao
Cmdr Eagleboy said:
So players also say Engineers is mandatory while I am keep flying in Open without any Engineered module.

As....players and people will say lot of things to re-confirm their bias or opinions how game should be.

Doesn't mean they are right or I am wrong.
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People say a lot more out of context.
 

Cmdr Eagleboy

Cmdr Eagleboy
Bacalao said:
People say a lot more out of context.
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Context really does not matter. People think their opinions matter and will change game. I think that really doesn't work that way. Everybody is so engaged in forum meta, thinking that mention per day will bring their pet issue or change closer to reality, while forgetting to engage with game as it is.

Seen with tons of other games, and ED is no way different in that way.

Riverside said:
I like the idea, it'll be interesting to see how it fairs as time goes on. This is something of an issue for many openworld games, I guess as different ideas are implemented by different games an optimal solution will rise to popularity.
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It is an issue for people not being to accept game has only one 'see all' mode that has everything and not preselected rules of engagement.
 

LeoBartlet

LeoBartlet
Krash said:
You forgot
  • PvP mode
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Multiple player modes might make sense and indeed be needed if the games average player count numbered in the tens of thousands but right now they dont and probably never will.

Adding these modes now would simply server to further dilute the game modes and make it harder for certain modes to have any kind of player to player interaction.
 

House0fDerp

H
Cmdr Eagleboy said:
Context really does not matter. People think their opinions matter and will change game. I think that really doesn't work that way. Everybody is so engaged in forum meta, thinking that mention per day will bring their pet issue or change closer to reality, while forgetting to engage with game as it is.

Seen with tons of other games, and ED is no way different in that way.
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"The engineering proess is bad" != "It's necessary to engineer"

Given that we mostly see the former rather than the latter and we've seen a number of iterations on engineering I'd argue the notion that neither context nor opinion mattering isn't really bearing out.
 

Cmdr Eagleboy

Cmdr Eagleboy
House0fDerp said:
"The engineering proess is bad" != "It's necessary to engineer"

Given that we mostly see the former rather than the latter and we've seen a number of iterations on engineering I'd argue the notion that neither context nor opinion mattering isn't really bearing out.
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That's not really how I see it shaking out. People push for max engineered ships, claiming it is required to do so. I argue that if you tip into Engineering when you really feel like it, it is alight process. Alternative would be handing out Engineered modules like product samples at supermarket and I am not seeing that happening.

I would argue that you really hear what you want to hear from here to push your point, not necessarily trying to understand what I am saying.
 
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