Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
You ruined nostalgia
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Not laughing, would be so cool if it worked
I don't mind anyone laughing! It's just a game (as my wife keeps reminding me) and as such the goal is fun! Perhaps that's what I am am alluding to by my experience of nostalgia.
Back in the early days it was just fun and novel. But then we thought "space invaders" on those big arcadey machines down in the pub, were so cool
And here i am playing Elite Dangerous wearing my Sockm Boppers listening to Green Day while sipping on a bottle of Orbitz.
Remember way back in 2015 when we were all playing Elite: Dangerous? I know technically it should be considered the same game as the one were are playing now, but back then we didn't have the bio-implants that we have now. It was amazing they managed to fit a whole galaxy into such a tiny amount of memory.
No, it was naff.
But Asteroids!....and Missile Command!.....they were cool.
That's right; I remember.
Not when you can do what you did in 84 by still playing the game you knew so well. No memory recollection is needed when it's right there in front of you, exactly as it was when you played it before. The only thing different is the addition of a few more grey hairs and a few more wrinkles on the pilot. I still played FFE for many years before ED came out and the only thing different about it was my age and the fact that I had to run Dosbox to play it.
Like any other thread? To express oneself?
Perhaps I have the time today to express an idea that grows in mind for weeks. "a smidge grumpy" ? You're right, it's exactly that : Elite was sort of "legendary game" in my mind (and the mind of many others). As many, I wait for its replacement during 20/30 years, but what best game to replace old Elite games than the new sequel by the original author ? But time pass and ED evolve, but it must be concluded that I, and maybe other players, won't be able to "make their own story", at least as I/we do during numerous hours in the previous games. The recent update with FDL was maybe sort of "last straw that breaks the camel's back", for me anyway. I think the future of ED begins to be quite clear, the result for me, after 20/30 years waiting, is a big "what a waste" in mind, something to be "a smidge grumpy".
Now a positive note : one more update, maximum two and, normally, you will not have to bear me (sound of applause). If my predictions are correct, I will be tired, leave the game and enough ! (after all, Spring comes and there a beautiful Z1000 SX sleeping in my garage). Or thing evolve in a way that I like and I keep my big mouth shut.
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Oh! I forgot a little bit OOlite... Maybe I will follow your good advice too...
Gotta say the OP made me laugh, and I know what he means!
How very dare FDev allow the unwashed 'yoof' enjoy Elite.
I had carefully filed my '84 experiences (yes on a BBC B, all you naughty speccies and amiga types) away in my 'Oh you yung'uns couldn't understand, now listen to grandpa...' folder.
And now they've gone and pulled the rug from under my zimmerframe...
...nurse, my hip hurts...
How very dare FDev allow the unwashed 'yoof' enjoy Elite.
I had carefully filed my '84 experiences (yes on a BBC B, all you naughty speccies and amiga types) away in my 'Oh you yung'uns couldn't understand, now listen to grandpa...' folder.
And now they've gone and pulled the rug from under my zimmerframe...
...nurse, my hip hurts...
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Not true for everybody : I shared the coordinates of strange, interesting systems with other players on Fidonet
undoubtedly!...a load of imagination
So what, gentlemen ? As Dany Glover said : "we are too old for this ", and John Cleese is totally right when he said "and now for something completely different" ?
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I remember watching Gemini Man as as a kid in the early 80's, it was the best show ever.
I then watched it again last year and it was total crap, I was gutted, nostalgia sucks.
I then watched it again last year and it was total crap, I was gutted, nostalgia sucks.
And it's a big welcome to Mikey, and to the world of internet forums...
...and dammit, I've just realised that I'm part of the problem...
why on earth would you complain about nostalgia? the game is not meant to bring back nostalgia, it's an entirely new game and a continuation of the previous titles, even if it did take 20 years.
Despite using the word "nostalgia" I suspect the OP is less about the erosion of sentimentality as about the loss of exclusivity. There's something special about being a fan of something cult, something cliquey, that's lost when it goes mainstream. The psychology of fandom is interesting; on the one hand you want the thing you love to succeed, and on the other you don't want to lose that special bond that only exists among a smaller group of dedicated fans and early adopters.
You hear this sort of thing all the time in music fandom ("But I was following them before they made it big..."), and I recall a very well written Usenet article someone wrote back around 1994 when The X-Files suddenly went from a cult SF show to the biggest thing on TV. The article was entitled "My Girlfriend Is A Supermodel" and basically described what the OP hints at: now that everybody loves the thing you love, your relationship with it doesn't feel quite the same. Alas despite much Google- and Bing-fu, I can't locate that post anywhere.
FWIW I don't particularly agree that this applies to Elite, possibly because many of the current generation of players are so dismissive of the primitive nature of the earlier incarnations. In the bulk of cases you really did have to be there to appreciate what programming marvels Elite and Frontier were in their respective eras, and that's something we 84ers and 93ers will always have.
You hear this sort of thing all the time in music fandom ("But I was following them before they made it big..."), and I recall a very well written Usenet article someone wrote back around 1994 when The X-Files suddenly went from a cult SF show to the biggest thing on TV. The article was entitled "My Girlfriend Is A Supermodel" and basically described what the OP hints at: now that everybody loves the thing you love, your relationship with it doesn't feel quite the same. Alas despite much Google- and Bing-fu, I can't locate that post anywhere.
FWIW I don't particularly agree that this applies to Elite, possibly because many of the current generation of players are so dismissive of the primitive nature of the earlier incarnations. In the bulk of cases you really did have to be there to appreciate what programming marvels Elite and Frontier were in their respective eras, and that's something we 84ers and 93ers will always have.
aside : apart from the fact that I enjoyed your speech... I love your avatar (mainly because of some "dismissive" remarks I read on a french forum)
Not true for everybody : I shared the coordinates of strange, interesting systems with other players on Fidonet
undoubtedly!
So what, gentlemen ? As Dany Glover said : "we are too old for this ", and John Cleese is totally right when he said "and now for something completely different" ?
BBS? Now that takes me back. Still no internet though.
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