Exactly, you need to qualify it, there's also battles that are unimportant and don't affect for the outcome of the war either way - which for all practical purposes is everything outside the focused systems currently since it's a win by default as nothing is committed there. This is less interesting than it could be, both in narrative and gameplay.
We are winning, the tide has turned HIP 23716
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Based on the CMDR kills/Interceptor kills ratio they should have retreated behind the Andromeda Galaxy by now.
Let me see if I understand the current situation please...
The thread title says "We are winning, the tide has turned HIP 23716" - yet as far as I can see we have lost to Tharg control more than 100 systems, there are over 40 systems in conflict and that is with 5 maelstroms. There are three more maelstroms to manifest so more losses / invasions to come this week.
The humans have managed to recover how many systems? What, none?
So how exactly are "we winning"?
The thread title says "We are winning, the tide has turned HIP 23716" - yet as far as I can see we have lost to Tharg control more than 100 systems, there are over 40 systems in conflict and that is with 5 maelstroms. There are three more maelstroms to manifest so more losses / invasions to come this week.
The humans have managed to recover how many systems? What, none?
So how exactly are "we winning"?
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I dunno, maybe winning 1 system is better than losing all for morale?
I'm OK though, the system I've been playing in will lose and it is no surprise to me at all. The next one will probably fall too, and I won't be surprised about that either. But, at some point, the marvellous engineers might discover that every weapon could be gimballed and I'll be rewarded with many more kills in the systems I play in - they will still fall, of course.
These are like auto-recurring CGs that last a week, and have a single tier.
If we make the tier, the CG resets to "Recovery". If we don't make the tier, it resets back to "Invasion" and a few stations are shuffled/lost. If we never make the tier, after some weeks it resets to "Thargoid Control" or whatever.
That's all it is. Winning one, or losing one, has almost no effect on the overall situation.
It's clever, in a way. Also frustrating.
If we make the tier, the CG resets to "Recovery". If we don't make the tier, it resets back to "Invasion" and a few stations are shuffled/lost. If we never make the tier, after some weeks it resets to "Thargoid Control" or whatever.
That's all it is. Winning one, or losing one, has almost no effect on the overall situation.
It's clever, in a way. Also frustrating.
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We are on track to take back the very first system that has ever been taken from humanity by Aliens.
A world first you might say. A huge win for humanity.
No need for you to play, humanity is far better served by your forum posts, helps keep moral up, thank you.
.. but that is not what the thread says - that comma make a difference.
No need to be so rude.
My point was that here we are, well into the second week of this "event", the thargoids have not finished arriving, we have lost loads of systems and are combating / opposing (yes I do stuff, I have no combat skills) in over 40 yet not one invasion has been prevented, never mind any lost system recovered. Millions of evacuees, thousands of thargoids killed, etc etc --- and yet we are only looking to possibly prevent one system being lost (it is not "taking back").
In short, basically I am wondering if FD even considered gaming this onslaught before unleashing it. It seems so grossly unbalanced to me, a mere pleb who has no in-depth knowledge of what is actually happening.
Frankly, I feel like I have been slapped in the face with a rancid fish by people at F D.
I'd guess it's planned like that. Initially we lose a lot to create some doom, gloom and a feeling of urgency. Then engineers develop better stuff and in the end it turns out Salvation was just waiting for his moment and wipes out all Thargoids in one fell sweep of a CG lasting three months
It's a morale thing. Look at last week, the effort players put into HIP23716 was phenomenal but that only got the purple bar somewhere between 40%-50%. When coupled with the news that progress is reset every week, there were calls for strikes, boycotts and Operation Ida gave up. Heck, there were even mad theories that Fdev want to shut the game down and this is how they were going to do it. If the players put that much effort in for just one system and were unable to turn it, then players would just give up on the whole war. You need a sliver of hope that you can win when your forces are concentrated.
Yes, we're probably going to lose 35-40 systems by the time the timers run out but players want to know that winning a single system is actually possible.
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Fixed that for you
Imagine a battle where you evacuated nearly all civilIans and wounded, were near fully supplied, and had completed steamrolled the enemy, but then a clock hand hit a magic number and none of that mattered anymore. Pointless realism comparisons can be made on both sides.
Sigh.... the internet.
To me that naturally suggests the winning is taking place in the named location. I don't know if from a sentance diagramming point of view that is completely correct but that's what the context suggests and the fact that we are presently winning the named system also seems to make it clear that that is the thing we are winning in answer to your question.
I think most everyone even moderately involved in the fighting knows that this win is pyrrhic even if it is completed.
We still don't know exactly what will happen if the bar is full and the tick rolls over. Could be the system is freed, could be it is just back to alert, could be that all was for naught because of... reasons. In essence we discover the rules on the go. Ever changing rules, for that matter. Let's wait until Thursday, and go from there.
Do you want any crisps to go with that salt?Fixed that for you
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